Missing 8 mth pregnant Marine Maria Frances Lauterbach- NC #3

[peace9274]

That's what I think, too.
And/or possibly the clerk saw the license plate or his name on a credit card or his ID?

Hopefully, the security cameras got it.

 

[peace9274]

All Cable news stns: (FOX, CNN, Headline News, etc)

The "breaking news will be coming up again shortly" and "We'll be talking about it all morning" .....

 

[englishleigh]

I think he either lured her to his house, or abducted her. I think he planned this all along, it wasn't an argument thing. I think as long as Maria was in the Camp LeJeune area, he felt he could control her and her actions and harass her, and I think he had it in his head to do her harm long before he did.....the rape accusations, the fact that she was carrying his child he didn't want to be responsible for. Maybe he got wind of Maria's plans to leave for TX and that was the trigger to go ahead and kill her...if she left NC, she was out of his control and could have the baby in TX and then start hitting him up for child support from there?

I don't know. This case has me upset and I haven't had my coffee yet...

 

[FlowerChild]

In the United States it appears that pregnant women are becoming somewhat of an "endangered species". If it isn't the father/boyfriend/husband it's the baby-stealing psychotic, PO'd parent or girlfriend/wife of baby-daddy. What is the matter with these people? Is it really worth the DP or life in prison to save on child support or avoid embarrassment? A pregnant woman isn't like ugly wallpaper or TP stuck to your shoe - you can't just laugh her off or get a "re-do" and go on like she never existed

This whole case shows that "we" (collectively, as a society) have a very long way to go still when it comes to pregnancy and motherhood. We like to believe we are "sophisticated" and give women many options - but the facts do NOT bear that out. We want women to have options (including keeping their baby after a rape) but it seems often the support for many women ends as soon as the "choice" (either choice) is made.

The lack of attention and investigation in Maria's MURDER tells me that in many ways we are still living in a "man's world" constrained by very outdated values and notions of what's "right and proper". It seems in the military, men are still very much in charge and women are the "second class citizens" pushed into their "place" - ESPECIALLY when pregnant or making accusations against one of the "men". This isn't 1950 and the good little wife waiting silently, quietly and nobly at home no longer exists or has a place in the military. It's 2008 and the wife is now just as likely to be the one in Iraq!

May the loss of these two precious lives be honored by inspiring change - and the outrage over their deaths fuel action from ALL of us.

My Opinion

 

[Littledeer]

If I were talking to a marine who had violently murdered a woman, I would not whip out my cell phone and dial 911 while he was standing right there.

Steadfast:

The poster said that Laurean had "spent SOME TIME" with the witness. I didin't mean for that person to blatantly call LE in fron of Laurean (LOL), but I wonder if they could have walked away for a minute or two and dialed 911 and report that Laurean was there.

I think the "some time" is misleading if it was a person who saw the vehicle parked somewhere and called the LE. Do we even know if he hasn't switched vehicles by now?

 

[Littledeer]

O/T:

I posted the funeral arrangements for Riley Ann Sawyers, aka "Baby Grace" in Ohio on her thread for those of you who have been following that case.

 

[Mygirlsadie]

It's not that bad FlowerChild but some of it does still exist..In the Army they own you and you are government property. I have been told a few times that ''the Army did not issue me a wife''.. This is something they are told and through the years I guess they also become brain washed by it. Or if you have a complaint you are told to go complain to the recruiter..On the other hand I have been a Army wife for 15 years and I love it..it's made me strong and independent...Anyway back to the topic at hand.

In the United States it appears that pregnant women are becoming somewhat of an "endangered species". If it isn't the father/boyfriend/husband it's the baby-stealing psychotic, PO'd parent or girlfriend/wife of baby-daddy. What is the matter with these people? Is it really worth the DP or life in prison to save on child support or avoid embarrassment? A pregnant woman isn't like ugly wallpaper or TP stuck to your shoe - you can't just laugh her off or get a "re-do" and go on like she never existed

This whole case shows that "we" (collectively, as a society) have a very long way to go still when it comes to pregnancy and motherhood. We like to believe we are "sophisticated" and give women many options - but the facts do NOT bear that out. We want women to have options (including keeping their baby after a rape) but it seems often the support for many women ends as soon as the "choice" (either choice) is made.

The lack of attention and investigation in Maria's MURDER tells me that in many ways we are still living in a "man's world" constrained by very outdated values and notions of what's "right and proper". It seems in the military, men are still very much in charge and women are the "second class citizens" pushed into their "place" - ESPECIALLY when pregnant or making accusations against one of the "men". This isn't 1950 and the good little wife waiting silently, quietly and nobly at home no longer exists or has a place in the military. It's 2008 and the wife is now just as likely to be the one in Iraq!

May the loss of these two precious lives be honored by inspiring change - and the outrage over their deaths fuel action from ALL of us.

My Opinion

 

[peace9274]

But as several of have said, if it were premeditated, why did he do it at his house and leave so much evidence?
It appears to be a violent struggle and killing with so much blood splattered all over.

But then if it weren't premeditated, why didn't he take her body and dispose of it off his property?

He had to know a huge fire, the missing fence, the odor, the vultures flying above, his borrowing the neighbor's shovel would all raise red flags.

 

[calidreamin]

But as several of have said, if it were premeditated, why did he do it at his house and leave so much evidence?
It appears to be a violent struggle and killing with so much blood splattered all over.

But then if it weren't premeditated, why didn't he take her body and dispose of it off his property?

He had to know a huge fire, the missing fence, the odor, the vultures flying above, his borrowing the neighbor's shovel would all raise red flags.

That what is confusing about this to me as well. If it was premeditated why on earth murder her in your own house where there is going to be evidence? But to burn and put her in the back yard makes no sense either.

 

[Pharlap]

Just heard the spotting was at midnight in Florida....
Hope they get this sucker....:behindbar

 

[peace9274]

Headline news just said to stay tuned for "Breaking news"... that they will tell us when and where the sighting took place.

 

[peace9274]

Hey Pharlap... yer much faster than Headline news!

 

[PrayersForMaura]

The body was charred, and the fetus was in the victim's abdomen, Brown said, describing the scene.

The fetus was developed enough that the "little hand was about the size of my thumb. The little fingers were rolled up," he said.

"One of the things that will probably stick with me for a long time, and forever, is that little hand, the way those fingers were turned, that had been burned off the arm. That is bizarre. That is tragic. And it's disgusting."




http://news.aol.com/story/_a/suspec...d/20080109165409990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

 

[FlowerChild]

It's not that bad FlowerChild but some of it does still exist..In the Army they own you and you are government property. I have been told a few times that ''the Army did not issue me a wife''.. This is something they are told and through the years I guess they also become brain washed by it. Or if you have a complaint you are told to go complain to the recruiter..On the other hand I have been a Army wife for 15 years and I love it..it's made me strong and independent...Anyway back to the topic at hand.

I know there are many strong military wives - my Aunt was/is one - for over 50 years now. My Uncle was often gone more than home - for almost 40 years. I admire you and support you while you husband serves. It DOES make families strong and self-sufficient.

...BUT the military is in need of some changes where women are concerned - both as soldiers and as spouses. I DO hold the military responsible for not handling Maria's situation better and for NOT immediately responding to her being missing. Pregnant single women do not historically go off at 8 mos pregnant and cut off ALL contact with their family/friends - especially if they have full medical coverage and only $400 in the bank. PLUS, Maria was military - there are penalties for just disappearing without a word. Times have changed - and the military must also change. It will benefit ALL of us if this brings positive changes for future servicewomen and spouses of servicemen.

My Opinion

 

[PrayersForMaura]

The key suspect in the brutal slaying of a 20-year-old pregnant Marine has been sighted outside of North Carolina, Onslow County Sheriff Ed Brown said Sunday.
The sighting by a member of the general public happened around midnight, Brown said. He expressed hope that Marine Cpl. Cesar Armando Laurean would soon be in custody.
Authorities recovered the remains of Maria Lauterbach Saturday from a fire pit where they suspect Laurean burned and buried her body, including the fetus of the soon to be born baby she was carrying. Lauterbach had accused Laurean of rape.
Lauterbach's family has asked why authorities didn't treat her case with a greater sense of urgency.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,322410,00.html

 

[Pharlap]

Hey Pharlap... yer much faster than Headline news!

Just turned cnn tv on and that was being told...
I bet they are going to get this guy....today.
Only said Florida.....Le probably doesn't want the guy to know how close they are to him, since he's watching tv too.

OTT..I typed in webslueths and got a complete different forum...did it twice then went to the tv..
Didn't have my coffee yet til I realized I mistyped...

 

[peace9274]

Just turned cnn tv on and that was being told...
I bet they are going to get this guy....today.
Only said Florida.....Le probably doesn't want the guy to know how close they are to him, since he's watching tv too.

OTT..I typed in webslueths and got a complete different forum...did it twice then went to the tv..
Didn't have my coffee yet til I realized I mistyped...

That's what I get for switching channels so much / so often.
I end up missing everything everybody says. :doh:

But I've always known I can get the real facts and the most info right here at WS! :clap: :dance:

 

[STEADFAST]

Here's my theory, for what it's worth:
Laurean planned the murder. He convinced Lauterbach that they would run away together to Mexico -- hence the ticket to El Paso, where she has no relatives or friends that we know of. He had her go buy the ticket and picked her up at the bus station; she wrote the "goodbye" note to her roommate. Then they stopped by his house and he ambushed her. He thought he could make it look like she'd just run away by using her ATM card and moving her car. He probably planted the seeds of belief among his command that she was unstable and likely to run.
He was so cocky, he never expected anyone would consider that she was murdered. He had to hide her in his yard, because if he left her somewhere else, she might be found.

 

[AdoraBlue]

Shreveport, Louisiana

http://shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080113/BREAKINGNEWS/80113002

A man wanted for the slaying in North Carolina of a pregnant Marine could be in the Shreveport area, police say.

A representative of the U.S. Marshal’s office contacted Shreveport police Saturday night after the office got word Cesar Armando Laurean may have gotten off a Greyhound bus here.

“So far we haven’t found any signs of it,” said Shreveport police Lt. William Scott. “But we’re checking the area for the possibility that we might find him.”

 

[Indy Gal]

Still catching up but the note was found by wife at 8am friday. Is was not found by her roomate, but his wife