Missing 8 mth pregnant Marine Maria Frances Lauterbach- NC #7

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According to that...he buried her in the wooded area and didn't move her...which we know isn't true. So how much of that entire statement holds water? Look at the motives of the person giving the statement and realize that she is reporting hearsay. Her word seems to be less than credible if this statement is to be believed at all.

there's no telling what's the complete truth & what's not....Cesar will probably never tell the entire truth...

 

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No he lied to his wife. She was in the backyard all along

i tend to agree JDB....no point in burying her somewhere, then moving her, imo.....if she was killed on the 14th, i think he buried her in the back yard that night, THEN came the idea of a fire pit.....

eta....it could be that he set up the entire fire pit, after burying her, & told Christina..."hey let's have a bonfire, honey, & invite some friends over".....

 

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does ANYONE have any thoughts/theories as to why LE thinks Maria will killed on Friday, Dec 14th, & not the 15th....

apparently they first thought she was murdered on the 15th, but now have changed their minds....

Officials originally said they believed she was murdered on December 15. This morning, they told WITN News they now believe she was killed on December 14.

http://www.witntv.com/home/headlines/13865087.html

 

[golfmom]

Does this mean that he buried her in the woods and moved her later to burn the body?

The way that scenario might make sense is if he ran out of time before Christina came home. What if he couldn't properly dispose the body after cleaning up / painting the house and hastily buried her in some woods returning later to bury her in the yard.

 

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According to that...he buried her in the wooded area and didn't move her...which we know isn't true. So how much of that entire statement holds water? Look at the motives of the person giving the statement and realize that she is reporting hearsay. Her word seems to be less than credible if this statement is to be believed at all.

i think it's possible that Cesar DID tell Christina that he buried Maria in the woods, but eventually fessed up in the note that she was really in the backyard.......maybe he told Christina about the body being in the woods, as to not scare her toooooo much, since i KNOW i'd be like YOU BURIED HER IN OUR BACKYARD!!!!

just a theory.....he's a liar anyway, from everything that's coming down now...not to mention a cold blooded killer....

 

[lkd-ga]

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QUOTE=close_enough;1918330]does ANYONE have any thoughts/theories as to why LE thinks Maria will killed on Friday, Dec 14th, & not the 15th....

apparently they first thought she was murdered on the 15th, but now have changed their minds....

Officials originally said they believed she was murdered on December 15. This morning, they told WITN News they now believe she was killed on December 14.

http://www.witntv.com/home/headlines/13865087.html

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December the 15th was a Saturday. So if Christina was supposely working on that day who had their little girl.

 

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got to scoot....my boy is bowling in the regional tournaments again today...i can't believe we're still in them!!!

later..

 

[glezell]

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December the 15th was a Saturday. So if Christina was supposely working on that day who had their little girl.[/quote]

And if Maria supposedly came back in the evening and killed herself, it would have taken a while to clean up. How late does she work???

 

[glezell]

The affadavit also said 's lawyers told him he was facing the death penalty.... What, the day before he split?

It also says she discovered several notes written by her husband describing his involvement in the murder

 

[lkd-ga]

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QUOTE=glezell;1918363]December the 15th was a Saturday. So if Christina was supposely working on that day who had their little girl.

And if Maria supposedly came back in the evening and killed herself, it would have taken a while to clean up. How late does she work???

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Where does she work. Report today states she has just been called back up for actice duty. Does this mean she had already processed out of the Marines?

 

[FlowerChild]

Could this have something to do with the note left in Durhams house on the 14th NOT being written by Maria?? Do they now know (or Xtina) wrote that note - proving that Maria was already dead when it was placed in Durhams house on the 14th (using Maria's car and keys perhaps?) Which prompts me to ask did Maria REALLY withdraw the $700 at the ATM on the 14th herself?

Well if Maria was killed the 14th then she certainly did NOT buy a bus ticket to El Paso on the 15th, now did she?? And we are right back to Xtina buying the ticket - while "impersonating" Maria - as a cover-up for .

I think the note to her roommate, the bus ticket, and maybe even the $700 withdrawal were ALL done by and/or Xtina.

The plot thickens.....

My Opinion

 

[lkd-ga]

QUOTE=glezell;1918367]The affadavit also said 's lawyers told him he was facing the death penalty.... What, the day before he split?

So apparently his attorney did not believe the story of Suicide or CL told him the truth about what really happen,

 

[Jolynna]

The affadavit also said 's lawyers told him he was facing the death penalty.... What, the day before he split?

It also says she discovered several notes written by her husband describing his involvement in the murder

If he admitted to lawyers that he killed Maria, then Christina ALSO got legal advice. CL and Christina had two days to talk to lawyers and to discuss all options before CL's not being at work would even be questioned.

I think Christina cut a deal.

 

[glezell]

this is an interesting affadavit for a search warrant for Christina and CL's mother's cell phones...

http://media.graytvinc.com/documents/Cell+Phone+Search+Warrant.pdf

She planned to keep the baby (I know there has been talk about whether she intended to), her mother told sheriff's office on 12/19 about the incident of rape, she had been bedridden by her pregnancy (and planned to take a bus?- maybe someone was supposed to be on that bus with her), cell phone was left on the side of the road near a gate at the base,

Mother's cell # is 702 area code (las vegas) as is Christina's??? I think they have them backwards because the other phone in the affadavit (CL's) is area code 740 and that comes back to Ohio.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Flowerchild, Jolyana, spot on. I'm not responding to all your posts in order to not clog up the threads.

I can't quit thinking if you put on maria's glasses, the ones in the pic the news is now showing of her in fatigues, not formal uniform, hat, and hair tucked all up in it, only really seeing cheeks and mouth, xtina could be taken for her. Her hair is blonde, and size. I would think her military i.c. was in one of the photos dressed out in military protocol, not the beautiful pic being shown in the combed long blonde hair photo with the pretty smile.

The pic of glasses and fatigues with hat, no smile there fore giving a more generic plain look to the photo. I too think she's cut a deal.

 

[STEADFAST]

When they served the Search Warrant on his home, I am fairly certain this would include items which would contain his DNA.

Plus, they keep a record now of all active duty soldiers' dna -- in order to identify combat remains, I suppose.

 

[Pharlap]

Could this have something to do with the note left in Durhams house on the 14th NOT being written by Maria?? Do they now know (or Xtina) wrote that note - proving that Maria was already dead when it was placed in Durhams house on the 14th (using Maria's car and keys perhaps?) Which prompts me to ask did Maria REALLY withdraw the $700 at the ATM on the 14th herself?

Well if Maria was killed the 14th then she certainly did NOT buy a bus ticket to El Paso on the 15th, now did she?? And we are right back to Xtina buying the ticket - while "impersonating" Maria - as a cover-up for .

I think the note to her roommate, the bus ticket, and maybe even the $700 withdrawal were ALL done by and/or Xtina.

The plot thickens.....

My Opinion

Yep it thickens....

What a tangle we weave when we try to deceive.

 

[JDB]

I just found the search warrant. it is the Media thread at the top

 

[glezell]

I just found the search warrant. it is the Media thread at the top

That is the warrant for CL's sister's cell, the rest are here...

http://media.graytvinc.com/documents...ch+Warrant.pdf

 

[MysteryAddict]

Could this have something to do with the note left in Durhams house on the 14th NOT being written by Maria?? Do they now know (or Xtina) wrote that note - proving that Maria was already dead when it was placed in Durhams house on the 14th (using Maria's car and keys perhaps?) Which prompts me to ask did Maria REALLY withdraw the $700 at the ATM on the 14th herself?

Well if Maria was killed the 14th then she certainly did NOT buy a bus ticket to El Paso on the 15th, now did she?? And we are right back to Xtina buying the ticket - while "impersonating" Maria - as a cover-up for .

I think the note to her roommate, the bus ticket, and maybe even the $700 withdrawal were ALL done by and/or Xtina.


The plot thickens.....

I agree with you........

Way back, I had posted the theory that Maria had been kidnapped as she left the base on Dec. 14th and taken at gunpoint to house in her car
by him and an accomplice where she was killed.
Thus her car being there.

I have no idea who wrote that note to Durham, but think Maria would have left the key along with it if she had- but no way does it make sense to me!

Nor does the bus ticket to El Paso make any sense at all to have been purchased by Maria!

I think Mrs. may not be the only accomplice in this case and that he may have had other help.