Missing 8 mth pregnant Marine Maria Frances Lauterbach- NC #7

[calidreamin]

My hubby watched the Marine presser with me and commented that Maria had been a Marine for less time and was promoted to Lance Corporal fairly quickly, and yet the smirking Coronel only called her SOLID. Meanwhile had been a Marine longer, had only reached Corporal and yet he is considered STELLAR ....... WTF ????? Yes, the USMC is definitely a man's world.

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: You said it perfectly Ticamom, the USMC is definatly a mans world, we have the proof right here.

 

[ember]

I think they were having an affair. And maybe the rape charges were done in vengance, like maybe she wanted him to leave his wife? Don't flame me, I'm just trying to think in all angles. Because someone dies a horrible death does not make them an angel when they were here on Earth. She was human...and there are alot of women and men out there that get involved with a married person, fall in love and do strange things....just saying. That would also explain the statement about that they continued to have a friendly relationship. Maybe that's why she changed her mind about the rape charges and changed them back again.

SO anyway, maybe she was going to leave. Hormones can do crazy things to a pregnant girl...epecially one (possibly) in love with a married man who won't leave his wife...he was a looker, sad to say. On her way out she decided to make wife aware of everthing. That's where wifey comes in....what do y'all think?

Also, I think he's gone on a flight. He didn't park that close to the airport for no reason. And who really knows how long he's been gone.

 

[SeekingJana]

As we said in the beginning, everyone in Maria's life failed her in life. They don't get a re-do now that she and baby Gabriel are long dead.
I don't care what the THs say. Bring the to justice and prosecute any accomplices.

RIP, sweet Maria and baby Gabriel.
:blowkiss:
Sad Maria

 

[Seven]

The more and more I think about the press conference the angrier I get. They said that the protective order was never violated. So how in God's name did they carry on a "friendly relationship"?

Excellent point, nnglas!

I'm pretty sure that the military guy reading the timeline didn't mention anything about that, but it was the white-haired NCIS guy in answer to a (planted shill?) question from the audience.

Also, did Timeline Marine say something about the Protective Order being expired as of late September and not renewed?

But wait a minute! I do remember Timeline Marine reading that, in answer to interview questions, Laurean said he had had NO (none, zero, nada, zilch) sexual encounters with Lauterbach at all. (IOW, he did not claim consentual sex and was saying her child had no chance whatsoever of being his.)

 

[ipswitch]

Sorry I didn't respond earlier when asked where my friend saw the truck. I had to run out to grab some medication for the kidlet...

Anyway, she saw the truck at the intersection of Chapel Hill St & Hwy 147 (aka the Durham Freeway) which is 2 blocks from the Durham Police Dept HQ and 3 blocks from where the ATM card was found. It was at 7:30 am on Saturday 1/12. It was reported to the DPD.

Also of note, that is PAST the place where the truck was found, further WNW by about 15 miles.

Now, if I could just hear from my parents, who are on their way home to Durham from the airport (I hope)

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Guys, I feel the one of our poster commented, my mind is boggled after this presser.

I've decided that I'm going to need confirmations and affirmations in order to believe any and all the facts the military presser gave. For example: atm video and shots of the transactions, which should either confirm or deny who used what when. That should be simple for authorities to produce and provide proof to the public.
The paternity of the baby, if not laureans then find the father, he should have some information. Individuals who did the interviews and exams, her personal care physician.

I need corroborating evidence to rule in or out this presser. Time will tell. We need to analyze everything said. We should be able to confirm alot of the facts by other means other than they said so.

Where's the murder weapon since it's blunt force trauma?

The thing that is real hard for me to believe, is the comments their using as evidence maria left on her own free will. the bank card being found, the cell phone oh yeah, thrown out the car window in anger. I don't think so, now that was pretty stupid.

If she bought this ticket, why the heck wasn't it used, and where is it now?
Someone else should have noticed a big pregnant girl at the bus station right?
I notice things like that, we haven't had not one corroborrating witness to this bus station sighting and purchase.

If she thought she was a problem to the military, family and wanted to just run and hide, why didn't she make some kind of comment to the mother, even a sarcastic one about leaving. This just dawned on me, the military presser guy stated that possibly she threw the cell phone out the window when speaking with her mom and it wasn't a good conversation, she was angry and tossed it. So is this when she decided to leave?

It doesn't make sense. She disappeared almost immediately after this conversation and probably murdered. Now that they have the cell phone, wonder why they didn't mention the calls in and out, the pings etc. Surely she looked up the bus station schedule or called it.

Due to have a baby, surely she would have given her mother some type of heads up of her intentions on leaving and going into a secluded life, because what else would the motive be for her rush departure? All medical forms ask and want emergency information. With the baby around the corner, she would'nt want to risk the delivering doctor, facility not having any personal emergency contact information. Too many dead end roads that don't make sense after I start trying to place reason in this pressers step by step account of events of the timeline as they ran it down for us trying to explain act by act of what led them to this conclusion then onto the next conclusion.

They covered their tracks, and it could be the truth, but it's going to have to fit reasonably and corroborate.

 

[Seven]

I think they were having an affair. And maybe the rape charges were done in vengance, like maybe she wanted him to leave his wife? . . .

Did you miss the part of the press conference where the official Marine timeline reported that, when interviewed, Laurean stated he had never had a sexual relationship with Maria?

IOW: No sex, no affair.

 

[JinxieJada]

Did you miss the part of the press conference where the official Marine timeline reported that, when interviewed, Laurean stated he had never had a sexual relationship with Maria?

IOW: No sex, no affair.

Let me guess "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"

 

[nnglas]

Excellent point, nnglas!

I'm pretty sure that the military guy reading the timeline didn't mention anything about that, but it was the white-haired NCIS guy in answer to a (planted shill?) question from the audience.

Also, did Timeline Marine say something about the Protective Order being expired as of late September and not renewed?

But wait a minute! I do remember Timeline Marine reading that, in answer to interview questions, Laurean said he had had NO (none, zero, nada, zilch) sexual encounters with Lauterbach at all. (IOW, he did not claim consentual sex and was saying her child had no chance whatsoever of being his.)

IIRC they said the protective order lapsed between 12/24/07 and 01/08/08.

I don't understand the Military's statements at all. According to them they spent between May 11, and now investigating absolutely nothing. Because she described a consensual encounter and another encounter where she told him to stop and he did. She also told them that the baby didn't result as part of a rape. I still don't know what "rape" they are talking about. It certainly doesn't sound as if she described a rape to them.

 

[Seven]

If she bought this ticket, why the heck wasn't it used, and where is it now?
Someone else should have noticed a big pregnant girl at the bus station right?
I notice things like that, we haven't had not one corroborrating witness to this bus station sighting and purchase.

My guess is that the ticket to El Paso was purchased by either Laurean or his wife.

 

[Seven]

IIRC they said the protective order lapsed between 12/24/07 and 01/08/08.

I don't understand the Military's statements at all. According to them they spent between May 11, and now investigating absolutely nothing. Because she described a consensual encounter and another encounter where she told him to stop and he did. She also told them that the baby didn't result as part of a rape. I still don't know what "rape" they are talking about. It certainly doesn't sound as if she described a rape to them.

Thanks for the dates.

I must have stopped watching before anything about consentual sex was mentioned, because I'm sure it was not mentioned by the uniformed Marine as he was reading the timeline.

Was it the NCIS guy who said that?

 

[nnglas]

A better question is if she was so close to deliver, the guy she was renting from was getting ready to deploy, why leave at all? Why not wait until she had the baby, collected a couple more paychecks. Because if she stayed here she could go the the hospital and have care on base. If she were somewhere else she would be putting herself in danger to be found and brought up on charges of being UA.

Another problem I find with their story is I thought the roomate heard or was there shortly after the conversation with her mother. He said that she told him she was upset right? Or am I remembering that incorrectly? But if he did say that, then throwing the phone out of the window while driving around talking to her mother......that theory just kind of goes......out the window.

Also, correct me if I am wrong, I thought that the roomate also said she was pretty much on bed rest because of the pregnancy, but she was at work the day before she disappeared?

I need some help here.

 

[calidreamin]

My guess is that the ticket to El Paso was purchased by either Laurean or his wife.

You know I tend to think that also but I swear a few days ago I heard the Sheriff at one of his pressers say that it had been determined that Maria bought the bus ticket and that she asked if she could leave her car there. Does anyone else remember that or am I losing my mind?

 

[nnglas]

Thanks for the dates.

I must have stopped watching before anything about consentual sex was mentioned, because I'm sure it was not mentioned by the uniformed Marine as he was reading the timeline.

Was it the NCIS guy who said that?

Yep, I think it was he who said that. He said it a couple of times that in seemed to be more or less consensual. The first encounter.

 

[FlowerChild]

Im dissappointed in the marines and their comments and conduct, and my father was a Marine...a real one, not one of these guys.



More that anything im SAD.
Sad for this girl and her baby.
Was there no one in her life that would stand up for her.
She deserved a chance and so did the baby.


This man...was a cold blooded baby killer....and the military is turning a blind eye, he is scott peterson all over again...but worse

Her Mom said she was "exaggerating" had a tendency to lie and dramatize things. Her Mom also wanted her to give up Gabriel for adoption. Then her Mom shut up when they found Maria dead. Her Air Force Dad has said NOTHING, her siblings, NOTHING, her fellow Marines (aside from her roommate) NOTHING. The Colonel called her "steady" while calling "stellar".

The Marines at LeJeune showed more public admiration and "love" for than for Maria! In fact they spent most of the PC tearing Maria down, while making excuses for themselves and .

And NO, there doesn't seem to be anyone in the Marines (or MArias family) with a anything nice to say about Maria - THANK GOD for the good Sheriff, who genuinely seems to care about bringing to justice for the MURDERS of Maria and Gabriel. HE CARED and still CARES for Maria and Baby Gabriel! That little tiny hand in the dirt will keep him motivated to hunt down - for as long as it takes!

I, for one, am going to speak out FOR MARIA. I don't care what kind of Marine she was, she DID NOT DESERVE her fate and her son certainly did NOTHING to deserve HIS. She was a woman, single pregnant, young and doing the best she could in a MAN's WORLD. I don't care HOW she got pregnant or what she was like, or whether she was steady or flaky! She is now a VICTIM, a statistic proving that to be pregnant makes one a target for a violent death. Maria was not perfect - well neither AM I, so I am willing to be a voice FOR Maria - so that she and Gabriel did not die and lie in a cold lonely grave for NOTHING. Maria and Gabriel were ignored and disrespected in life, but NO MORE! CHANGE MUST HAPPEN! The Marines, the MILITARY as a whole, must celebrate the new millennium with some fresh thinking and some new policies and procedures. Maria was a MARINE in EVERY WAY and she deserves their respect, their grief and their promise that what happened to her, will NEVER happen to another woman.

I DEMAND change - for Maria and Gabriel.
I may be too late to help Maria and support her in life, but I AM supporting her in death - and I WILL support change for every woman who comes after!

I WILL STAND UP FOR MARIA!
Anyone else???
My Opinion

 

[JinxieJada]

Her Mom said she was "exaggerating" had a tendency to lie and dramatize things. Her Mom also wanted her to give up Gabriel for adoption. Then her Mom shut up when they found Maria dead. Her Air Force Dad has said NOTHING, her siblings, NOTHING, her fellow Marines (aside from her roommate) NOTHING. The Colonel called her "steady" while calling "stellar".

The Marines at LeJeune showed more public admiration and "love" for than for Maria! In fact they spent most of the PC tearing Maria down, while making excuses for themselves and .

And NO, there doesn't seem to be anyone in the Marines (or MArias family) with a anything nice to say about Maria - THANK GOD for the good Sheriff, who genuinely seems to care about bringing to justice for the MURDERS of Maria and Gabriel. HE CARED and still CARES for Maria and Baby Gabriel! That little tiny hand in the dirt will keep him motivated to hunt down - for as long as it takes!

I, for one, am going to speak out FOR MARIA. I don't care what kind of Marine she was, she DID NOT DESERVE her fate and her son certainly did NOTHING to deserve HIS. She was a woman, single pregnant, young and doing the best she could in a MAN's WORLD. I don't care HOW she got pregnant or what she was like, or whether she was steady or flaky! She is now a VICTIM, a statistic proving that to be pregnant makes one a target for a violent death. Maria was not perfect - well neither AM I, so I am willing to be a voice FOR Maria - so that she and Gabriel did not die and lie in a cold lonely grave for NOTHING. Maria and Gabriel were ignored and disrespected in life, but NO MORE! CHANGE MUST HAPPEN! The Marines, the MILITARY as a whole, must celebrate the new millennium with some fresh thinking and some new policies and procedures. Maria was a MARINE in EVERY WAY and she deserves their respect, their grief and their promise that what happened to her, will NEVER happen to another woman.

I DEMAND change - for Maria and Gabriel.
I may be too late to help Maria and support her in life, but I AM supporting her in death - and I WILL support change for every woman who comes after!

I WILL STAND UP FOR MARIA!
Anyone else???
My Opinion

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

An affair should NOT equate to Losing not only her life, but that of her unborn child.

 

[calidreamin]

Her Mom said she was "exaggerating" had a tendency to lie and dramatize things. Her Mom also wanted her to give up Gabriel for adoption. Then her Mom shut up when they found Maria dead. Her Air Force Dad has said NOTHING, her siblings, NOTHING, her fellow Marines (aside from her roommate) NOTHING. The Colonel called her "steady" while calling "stellar".

The Marines at LeJeune showed more public admiration and "love" for than for Maria! In fact they spent most of the PC tearing Maria down, while making excuses for themselves and .

And NO, there doesn't seem to be anyone in the Marines (or MArias family) with a anything nice to say about Maria - THANK GOD for the good Sheriff, who genuinely seems to care about bringing to justice for the MURDERS of Maria and Gabriel. HE CARED and still CARES for Maria and Baby Gabriel! That little tiny hand in the dirt will keep him motivated to hunt down - for as long as it takes!

I, for one, am going to speak out FOR MARIA. I don't care what kind of Marine she was, she DID NOT DESERVE her fate and her son certainly did NOTHING to deserve HIS. She was a woman, single pregnant, young and doing the best she could in a MAN's WORLD. I don't care HOW she got pregnant or what she was like, or whether she was steady or flaky! She is now a VICTIM, a statistic proving that to be pregnant makes one a target for a violent death. Maria was not perfect - well neither AM I, so I am willing to be a voice FOR Maria - so that she and Gabriel did not die and lie in a cold lonely grave for NOTHING. Maria and Gabriel were ignored and disrespected in life, but NO MORE! CHANGE MUST HAPPEN! The Marines, the MILITARY as a whole, must celebrate the new millennium with some fresh thinking and some new policies and procedures. Maria was a MARINE in EVERY WAY and she deserves their respect, their grief and their promise that what happened to her, will NEVER happen to another woman.

I DEMAND change - for Maria and Gabriel.
I may be too late to help Maria and support her in life, but I AM supporting her in death - and I WILL support change for every woman who comes after!

I WILL STAND UP FOR MARIA!
Anyone else???
My Opinion

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: That was very well said Flowerchild. I too will stand up for Maria and baby Gabriel.

 

[Seven]

A better question is if she was so close to deliver, the guy she was renting from was getting ready to deploy, why leave at all? Why not wait until she had the baby, collected a couple more paychecks. Because if she stayed here she could go the the hospital and have care on base. If she were somewhere else she would be putting herself in danger to be found and brought up on charges of being UA.

Another problem I find with their story is I thought the roomate heard or was there shortly after the conversation with her mother. He said that she told him she was upset right? Or am I remembering that incorrectly? But if he did say that, then throwing the phone out of the window while driving around talking to her mother......that theory just kind of goes......out the window.

Also, correct me if I am wrong, I thought that the roomate also said she was pretty much on bed rest because of the pregnancy, but she was at work the day before she disappeared?

I need some help here.

I'm looking forward one of the news channels posting a transcript of the official timeline.

As for the answers made by the NCIS guy, I'm starting to think his job there was damage control and he was responding to a shill, because none of the statements that called into question Maria's complaint were made unprompted by the official Marine.

The official timeline did not say the March contact was consentual sex, to the best of my recollection.

 

[nnglas]

I'm looking forward one of the news channels posting a transcript of the official timeline.

As for the answers made by the NCIS guy, I'm starting to think his job there was damage control and he was responding to a shill, because none of the statements that called into question Maria's complaint were made unprompted by the official Marine.

The official timeline did not say the March contact was consentual sex, to the best of my recollection.

But the NCIS guy did make it sound like it was consensual, right? Or am I loosing my mind?

 

[englishleigh]

I've been working my little bootay off the past 2 days starting my new job and I am sooooo behind here. I've tried reading back but I don't have the patience. I cannot believe they have not caught this yet.

How did you guys find out the baby's name was Gabriel? Gabriel or Gabrielle? Boy or girl??