Missing 8 mth pregnant Marine Maria Frances Lauterbach- NC #7

[JinxieJada]

Jinxie, her show transcripts are up pretty soon after her show airs. Just FYI!

Thanks - Im hitting refresh constantly on her site page waiting for the "rush transcripts" LOL!

 

[JDB]

Thanks - Im hitting refresh constantly on her site page waiting for the "rush transcripts" LOL!

Will u wait till after the show???? Laffin

 

[cricket]

Yep, I think it was he who said that. He said it a couple of times that in seemed to be more or less consensual. The first encounter.

Wasn't the a superior of hers? IMO any sex a subordinate has with a superior can never be truly considered consensual.

 

[tiredblondy]

Just a thought here...She kept telling everyone she did not feel he was a threat to her.. What if that was part of the plan? He played the game , Doesn't he have connections in El Paso? What if he talked her into meeting him there and that was the reason for the ticked to El Paso. At sometime maybe they planned on him taking her to the bus and that was when he was chose to take kill her? Also keying her car was one of the harassment issues. It has been my experience that is something women do in spite.?? I just got in and haven't been able to read back so forgive me if this has been covered previously.

 

[Ticamom]

OMG, on NG they keep showing the clip over and over of the moments when they took Maria and Gabriel's remains out of the fire pit. The man on the right almost falls as he gets out of the pit, and for a second you can see Maria's burnt head BEFORE they put the blurred circle on it. How horrible !

I wish they would realize their mistake and stop showing that. Imagine if her family is watching ?

 

[JDB]

Wasn't the a superior of hers? IMO any sex a subordinate has with a superior can never be truly considered consensual.

No they were both CPL.

 

[paddy01]

No they were both CPL.

He was Cpl. & she was Lance Cpl. one rank below him.

 

[Littledeer]

WARNING:

My recap of presser is long: Skip over if not interested.

This is what I have from my hastily written notes during the press conference. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THESE ARE NOT FACTS. Only what I scribbled and I am not PERFECT. Question marks are because I did not hear specifically and will not make a guess on what was said.
If there is anything GLARING WRONG, PLEASE PLEASE CORRECT!!! Also, add what I didn't catch!
This looks real nice here in my WordPad, but it will probably come out all scrambled once I copy to WS. so sorry!!!!

March 26 and April 11: Two Sexual Assaults (I have 5/26 written down as the second date?) The first ones are from a poster.

May 11: Chief Officer notified...Went to UAA (Forgot what this acronym stands for)

Date (?): Medical Exam done on Maria
No Rape Kit
Pregnancy Test: Negative

May 11: Rape Investigation Opened

May 12: WMPO Written: Leauran to have no contact with Maria: 1,000 feet away
Maria Reassigned Across Base
Supposedly still interact daily: But no signs of force or threats known or seen

May 18: Cesar Denies Rape Allegation

May 24: 2nd WMPO Written

May 18 to June 24: Maria on Leave in Ohio
Comes back on base June 25th: Exhibits no sign of anxiety, etc.

June 25: 3rd WMPO Written: Effective until 9/24

June 27: Maria seeks Medical Test, Tests positive for pregnancy. Estimated time of conception 5/14/07

July 11 to July 26 - Cesar on Leave
Comes back on base: No indication of contact between him and Maria

September 17 (?) Maria request off base housing

September 20: 4th WMPO Written: Effective until 12/23

Officers (NCIS, JAG) ? developing Case

September 26 to October 2 - Maria on Leave

October 18: Maria told DNA needed from baby

October 22: New Services for Prosecutor to review
Article 22: Can have witnesses, questions, etc.

October 23: ?????

October 31: Maria's request to move off base approved

November 5: Maria moves: Rent's from Durham

November 4 to November 13: Leave - LA? Possibly talking about Durham????

November 26: Maria shows for Doctor's Appointment

December 14: Cesar reports to duty (Not at x-mas party) Not mandatory to show
Durham finds note from Maria: I'm going away.......finds items missing (clothes, personal items, and car)
Durham calls Maria's sister and also talks to Maria's mother
Supposedly Command is not notified until December 27 (about what??)

December 18: Maria's mother notified

December 19: LE in Ohio contact Military and Sheriff's Office about Maria being Missing

December 20: Durham notifies Commander he is leaving on December 27 to CA for duty

December 21: Holiday on Base (?)

December 24: $400 withdrawn from Maria's account (some heard $700)

December 26: Maria doesn't show for Doctor's Appointment

December 27: Base calls Mom: She states no contact with Maria

December 28: Maria's belongings are taken from Durhams Home

January 2: ????

January 3: Inventory taken of Maria's belongings and reinventoried

January 4: Marines request 10 day letter (?) Want additional information from Mother when Maria called her

January 7: Maria's Mother and Uncle show up on Base: 1st indication of Foul Play by Marines

January 8: 5th WMPO written: Effective until March 28, 2008

January 9: Laurean @ Sheriff's Office with Attorneys (?): No Miranda Rights given
On phone with Commanding Officer (?) possibly Laurean requesting leave which was approved

January 10: Laurean calls for leave: To meet with attorneys - Approved
Asks for leave for January 11 to meet with Attorneys: Approved: To call In on Friday in AM

January 11: Laurean doesn't call in. Fails to report to Work. Reported UA

 

[Ticamom]

Wow, great job Littledeer !!!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

I am sooo glad you're back. I was worried by your parting comment earlier. Who could possibly hate such a sweet deer ??????

ON another note, they keep expressing the same doubts we have about Christina on Nancy Grace. Go Nancy !!!! She can express our thoughts so well..... I wonder if she ever reads here ?

 

[close_enough]

thanks Lildeer

 

[Pharlap]

Just listening to nancy, they talked about the paint a few times.
Then it dawns on me,WHEN DID HE buy the paint BEFORE or after the murder.
Little things sometimes cracks the case...

 

[Taximom]

Littledeer, how did it go tonight? My husband got home too late for me to leave for Mentor. I'll go check on Riley's thread. :blowkiss: Thanks for the transcript. I haven't gone through it all yet.

 

[peace9274]

When did the neighbor see the buckets on the porch? Anyone remember?
Were they empties or new cans of paint?

 

[tiredblondy]

Just listening to nancy, they talked about the paint a few times.
Then it dawns on me, DID HE buy the paint BEFORE or after the murder.
Little things sometimes cracks the case...

I believe the neighor said the paint was on the porch some time before Christmas???Not sure..I really think he dupped her into thinking he would meet her in El Paso. She could have been upset because her mom wanted the baby put up for adoption and contacted him etc...I do think there was a plan.

 

[Pharlap]

I believe the neighor said the paint was on the porch some time before Christmas???Not sure..I really think he dupped her into thinking he would meet her in El Paso. She could have been upset because her mom wanted the baby put up for adoption and contacted him etc...I do think there was a plan.

The sheriff has to find out when the paint was bought.
Would make a big difference if indeed this was a set up to kill her.

 

[Tom'sGirl]

I've been working my little bootay off the past 2 days starting my new job and I am sooooo behind here. I've tried reading back but I don't have the patience. I cannot believe they have not caught this [link removed] yet.

How did you guys find out the baby's name was Gabriel? Gabriel or Gabrielle? Boy or girl??

I found out here:

News Death Notice

LAUTERBACH, Maria F. and infant son Gabrel Joseph, 20 of Vandalia, December 14, 2007. Service pending. Westbrock Funeral Home
Published in the Dayton Daily News on 1/13/2008. http://www.legacy.com/Obituaries.asp?Page=ObitFinderResults

 

[Pharlap]

Just a thought here...She kept telling everyone she did not feel he was a threat to her.. What if that was part of the plan? He played the game , Doesn't he have connections in El Paso? What if he talked her into meeting him there and that was the reason for the ticked to El Paso. At sometime maybe they planned on him taking her to the bus and that was when he was chose to take kill her? Also keying her car was one of the harassment issues. It has been my experience that is something women do in spite.?? I just got in and haven't been able to read back so forgive me if this has been covered previously.

Ok, she kept telling everyone she did not feel he was a threat to her.
WHO are they?
Bet they will be in court when it goes to trial...Wonder if any there are.
I feel this is a massive cover up

 

[Tom'sGirl]

Asking again...I'm dying to know.

Who named the baby Gabriel/Gabrielle? Was that what Maria wanted to name the baby? Is it Gabriel or Gabrielle (boy or girl)?

http://www.legacy.com/Obituaries.asp?Page=ObitFinderResults

 

[Littledeer]

Thanks all for the little scratches on my antlers for the presser post.

peace: I have that date somewhere on when it was reported that the neighbors saw the paint cans. Can definately tell you that although she is a "nosy" neighbor, she didn't go over and pick up the cans to see if they were full or empties.

AND YES GRETA ROCKS!! I noticed that not one interviewer believed that Christine could not have either 1.) Not noticed that something was horribly wrong in her house or 2.) that she was totally not involved in the murder of Maria and Gabriel or even 3.) helped in the abetting of her husband fleeing.

 

[tiredblondy]

Ok, she kept telling everyone she did not feel he was a threat to her.
WHO are they?
Bet they will be in court when it goes to trial...Wonder if any there are.
I feel this is a massive cover up

I understood it was the victims advocate and the investigative team for the marines. That it is documented in their interviews with her.