Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #8

[cherrymeg]

Leaves out 'thieves' and more towards, since purses were lined up, COULD be a sign of OCD.
What type of person would line-up anything in an abduction situation?
And heck, that 'evidence' could be interpreted by a behaviorist....anybody on here with those credentials?

It could be as simple as people being morons. idk

 

[MooseMeMuch]

I don't know why Janelle or anyone that was not Sherrill's good friend would be in her bedroom. That seems disrespectful but then so do a lot of things kids did that day.

Exactly.....talk about NOSY...and intrusive. Then say you were 'concerned' but not enough to call Stacy's mom? That make zero sense to me. And it must have to LE b/c I read (somewhere, I need to start keeping track!) where LE did bring Janelle in multiple times for questioning.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

It could be as simple as people being morons. idk

Could be! hahahaha

 

[Ibiz]

The woman from the convenience store I am sure come forward and it wasn’t Sherrill.

But I’m intrigued that the woman and men seen at George’s never came forward if it wasn’t the 3 woman.

I don’t know why as LE said it wasn’t true but I still think George’s could of happened. If the Waitress knew them from previous visits why would she of gotten confused and why did the woman who were there never come forward?

I think it’s possible the girls got home and were still on a high from graduation and the parties and decided to go out for some food and Sherrill went with them.

I've said this a hundred times I think. The women could have been followed home from George's. The perps could have watched and waited for the women to get ready for bed, and then invaded the home.

I still am completly convinced that the front porch lady was being truthful about the van she saw. She may have not got the color and other detail right, but that does not mean she did not see a van with suzie crying and driving it. These are the only clues in this case that actually make sense.

I do not buy the women being followed home from George's. I don't find any credibility in that tip given the amount of people that dispute it who were also at the restaurant.

The fact is, the porch lady sighting is also not super credible. She may have seen a van with a woman driving, but I don't think it was the 3MW/perps.

In fact, we're not even sure a van was ever used that night. There's no proof of any of it. It's a huge red herring. Spray painting a van and parking it out front is your best hope to solving this? Is this the dumbest investigative department in the world or is there something to make this a possible red herring?

Then you have the cops checking leads regarding Cox, Larry Hall, GJ3. All with loose if any connection to the women. Not buying it. Especially because I believe in Wright's profile as a guide. And the perps took an interest in the women and knew the comings and goings of the house. That is not the MO of Cox, Hall, Garrison, etc. Garrison was out 3 weeks before the crime--how do you figure he even gets on Levitt's radar?

SPD's investigation makes very little sense and it's time to turn the mirror back on them. Spray painting a van and making people chase buzzards instead of following up with real leads? Psychic tips! Gag orders on the searches! Something is NOT adding up.

The only people that have dismissed these clues are forum posters. Prosecutors and professional investigators have not. 2 and 2 always = 4. There were a few reports of a van prowling the neighborhood. So without question we know a van was used in the kidnapping of these women.

Every clue to a case is not a red herring just because one or a few thinks it is. What people think is just an opinion and nothing else. Therefore all clues must be followed no matter what they are or what people think.

 

[cherrymeg]

Could be! hahahaha

We're reading a deep meaning into money being left in a purse and it could that someone was too stupid to take it. I wonder if someone was in Sherrill's closet.

 

[cherrymeg]

The only people that have dismissed these clues are forum posters. Prosecutors and professional investigators have not. 2 and 2 always = 4. There were a few reports of a van prowling the neighborhood. So without question we know a van was used in the kidnapping of these women.

Every clue to a case is not a red herring just because one or a few thinks it is. What people think is just an opinion and nothing else. Therefore all clues must be followed no matter what they are or what people think.

I don't think anyone should be ruled out. This case needs to be on Cold Justice.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

But all the reports say that the woman were known to make their beds when they got up. Sherrill was a neat freak so the fact her room was a mess was very out of character and the same for Suzie. I have given suzie’s room leave-way as it was graduation night so it’s safe to think she changed her mind about what she would wear a million times and that’s why it wasn’t as clean as normal. Sherrill had no such reason imo

hmmm, I understood it that Sherrill was the 'neat freak', hence cleaning up the glass.
And it could be 'staging'...remember people 'toss the place' to make it look like perps were looking for something. In this case, it sure wasn't money the perps were searching for.

It definitely threw LE people 'off' so mission accomplished.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

We're reading a deep meaning into money being left in a purse and it could that someone was too stupid to take it. I wonder if someone was in Sherrill's closet.

I like how you think.......definitely a breath of fresh air!

Yes, too stupid to take it. They may have been in a huge hurry to get out.
It has been suggested the perps never entered the house....could Sherrill have been searching for something to throw on in a hurry? IMO it's possible.

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

Where can I post clips of the police clearing

The only people that have dismissed these clues are forum posters. Prosecutors and professional investigators have not. 2 and 2 always = 4. There were a few reports of a van prowling the neighborhood. So without question we know a van was used in the kidnapping of these women.

Every clue to a case is not a red herring just because one or a few thinks it is. What people think is just an opinion and nothing else. Therefore all clues must be followed no matter what they are or what people think.

Without question? Uh, there's no proof a van was used. Van workers are all over Springfield. On any given day and hour.

Proof is the key.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

It doesn't sound like they were fresh corpses. Slightly less creepy.

One had hair to light for a torch. The boys didn't plan well. "I thought you were bringing a flashlight!"
Lol

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

The only public tip I find credible is the Apco tip. The lady trying to dispute it on 48 Hours was way too far away and it was at night. I've stood right where she was, and she can't tell who was in the store from there--let alone how do we know she was even paying attention that well? Steve Thompson interacted with Sherrill. I believe he's telling the truth.

Not George's. Not Porch Lady.

Too much focus is on the van and bad tips. Best to attack this case from the motive and then outward. IMO.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

Where can I post clips of the police clearing

Without question? Uh, there's no proof a van was used. Van workers are all over Springfield. On any given day and hour.

Proof is the key.

Exactly.

Can you upload a file? I copy/paste when all else fails.

 

[cherrymeg]

One had hair to light for a torch. The boys didn't plan well. "I thought you were bringing a flashlight!"
Lol

I picture them bringing the skull to the pawn shop (I doubt they did that).

 

[cherrymeg]

I like how you think.......definitely a breath of fresh air!

Yes, too stupid to take it. They may have been in a huge hurry to get out.
It has been suggested the perps never entered the house....could Sherrill have been searching for something to throw on in a hurry? IMO it's possible.

If you are comfortable enough to answer phones and hang out in a house when you would have no legit reason to suspect Sherrill wasn't coming home, you might be bold enough to try on clothes. Has anyone established if the furniture Sherrill was working in was in the house?

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

If you are comfortable enough to answer phones and hang out in a house when you would have no legit reason to suspect Sherrill wasn't coming home, you might be bold enough to try on clothes. Has anyone established if the furniture Sherrill was working in was in the house?

Yes. This is all covered in the 20th and 25th anniversary Newsleader and Ky3/Ozarks First articles. You can read about the furniture, the items in the house, the floor plan of the house, etc.

 

[cherrymeg]

Yes. This is all covered in the 20th and 25th anniversary Newsleader and Ky3/Ozarks First articles. You can read about the furniture, the items in the house, the floor plan of the house, etc.

Do you have a link. I read that an officer noted a smell but there wasn't a mention of how where the furniture was.

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

Do you have a link. I read that an officer noted a smell but there wasn't a mention of how where the furniture was.

You can find easily on Google.

Search for the crime scene photos. They have the dresser in one of those. IIRC it's in her bedroom.

 

[asyousay]

I like how you think.......definitely a breath of fresh air!

Yes, too stupid to take it. They may have been in a huge hurry to get out.
It has been suggested the perps never entered the house....could Sherrill have been searching for something to throw on in a hurry? IMO it's possible.

The problem with this theory is the fact that purses were lined up. So if the perps didn’t do that then one of the individuals did it the following day.

No way did the girls and Sherrill line up there purses like that or leave their cigarettes out like that. Somebody did that and if it wasn’t Janelle or Mike then it was the perp/perps.


Also I think a van was used in this attack, too many different sightings of one from various people and to fit in a 3 victims and perp/perps in a car would be very tight.

 

[scadagirl28]

The only people that have dismissed these clues are forum posters. Prosecutors and professional investigators have not. 2 and 2 always = 4. There were a few reports of a van prowling the neighborhood. So without question we know a van was used in the kidnapping of these women.

Every clue to a case is not a red herring just because one or a few thinks it is. What people think is just an opinion and nothing else. Therefore all clues must be followed no matter what they are or what people think.

I don't have a problem with a van . It makes sense for purely logistics purposes.

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

I don't have a problem with a van . It makes sense for purely logistics purposes.

Not if there were multiple perps with multiple cars/trucks.

Vans were still somewhat of a commodity back then, not easily attainable. And a lot of them were sticks (panel vans at least) so it'd take driving a stick and subduing three women.

It's possible one was used. But not worth spending tons of time on since even if that's true, what's it get you? Nowhere. Need to focus on Levitt's visitors to the house in that 2 month window.