Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #9

[SpringfieldMan341]

I’ll try and find, but honestly I don’t take the news articles seriously at all. Have seen too many errors over the years.

I agree....have to look into them deeper. The papers weren't wrong that often. Not as wrong as some want you to believe.

 

[irisheyesofblue]

The reason I do not suspect the Teen Cleanup Crew (Janelle/Mike) and the Battlefield folks is because there's no one with the criminal capability in their background and because the cops leaned on Garrison for this for two whole years. There's something to do the Garrison connection (he knows who did it).

If Battlefield Teens did this, then Sherrill's involvement only works if you force the theory. And there's no rhyme or reason she would suspect trouble because the time she was spotted at Apco, the girls were at their last party still and heading back to Janelle's. Then you have the whole problem of what got Sherrill out of the house? If she suspected trouble, it takes 25 mins to get to Apco from Delmar, so that means a call was placed from the Elder's party. Michelle Elder said everything was fine outside of some strangers she didn't know attending the party. You're telling me 20-30 kids can keep a secret for all these years? Plus why stop at Sherrill? Why not call Bartt and kill him too? Why not call Janis and Stu and off them? It makes no sense to kill Sherrill. That's why that theory is bogus.

Now is it possible Henson knew or associated with the same peripheral Mike and Dusty did, yes. <modsnip - no source provided>Lots of drinking. Lots of fringe players that possibly connect up to the criminal crew Garrison associated with.

<modsnip - reference to snipped part of quoted post> Mike also did not know Mike H.

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

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Springfield is smaller than people realize. Henson and Dusty probably knew lots of the same people.... it's only meaningful if you can connect them to criminal behavior associated to this case. Henson shouldn't be penalized for cleaning the porch globe, no matter how dumb it looks at this hindsight 20/20 moment.

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Some people like to say Henson's later activities equate to guilt because he was drunk and abusive to Janelle. While that's awful, that does not make someone guilty in this crime. If you want to talk about suspects/people close to the case's later-in-life behavior, there's a few who are worse than Henson was.

 

[asyousay]

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Springfield is smaller than people realize. Henson and Dusty probably knew lots of the same people.... it's only meaningful if you can connect them to criminal behavior associated to this case. Henson shouldn't be penalized for cleaning the porch globe, no matter how dumb it looks at this hindsight 20/20 moment.

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Some people like to say Henson's later activities equate to guilt because he was drunk and abusive to Janelle. While that's awful, that does not make someone guilty in this crime. If you want to talk about suspects/people close to the case's later-in-life behavior, there's a few who are worse than Henson was.

If it was just cleaning up the porch light then of course it wouldn’t be seen as that suspious even though not putting it in the trash bin at the house and going to the business next door adds to the suspicious. It’s the fact him and Janelle had untold access to the crime scene and they obvious couldn’t keep their stories straight hence LE even mentioned it.

It’s the sum of all their actions that day that makes them suspicious imo

 

[irisheyesofblue]

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Yep, I do know for sure he never dealt drugs so look it up.

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

If it was just cleaning up the porch light then of course it wouldn’t be seen as that suspious even though not putting it in the trash bin at the house and going to the business next door adds to the suspicious. It’s the fact him and Janelle had untold access to the crime scene and they obvious couldn’t keep their stories straight hence LE even mentioned it.

It’s the sum of all their actions that day that makes them suspicious imo

I guess it doesn't really matter. They had no blood on them. Teens don't know how to professionally scrub DNA like the mobs. Not buying it. Suspicious or not... it means very little since nothing linked them to the likely murder.

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

My take on Janelle is that she is just odd in general. She was odd in her Channel 33 interview. Off and odd in Disappeared. Just "off" in general.....and that is just who she is.

She doesn't do anything a guilty person does. Her friends were missing.

Too much has been read into "went over to the other girl's house" comment. Just like too much is read into "hope those are dead." Both mean very little. The reporter had asked her how she felt about Stacy, and it was national TV, it wasn't a big deal for her to say "other girl" in that context. People just love to jump on it for some reason. Not really an A-Ha! moment to me.

Sherrill would not have been involved if something happened at the parties to the women. And why would they follow them to Delmar and then take them? Also makes no sense....

 

[asyousay]

I guess it doesn't really matter. They had no blood on them. Teens don't know how to professionally scrub DNA like the mobs. Not buying it. Suspicious or not... it means very little since nothing linked them to the likely murder.

You may not have seen my posts but I have never claimed they was responsible for the actual murders. But I think they knew a lot more than they let on.

Obviously I could be wrong and they could both have IQ’s of a apple.

Let’s just remember

Stacey and Suzie has plans with Janelle and as of 2.15am when they left them plans had not changed.

Janelle arrived and Porch light still on and 3 cars in the drive way.

They look around the home expecting the 3 women to be there ( a obvious assumption as all the cars are there)

She would of checked the bedrooms to see if they were all still asleep and Stacey’s clothing that Janelle saw her in less than 7 hours before was laid out on the floor.

So Janelle knows that Stacey can’t be dressed at this stage. It’s been said Suzie and Stacey were completely different sizes and Janelle again knew this being friends with both women they couldn’t share clothing

TV is still switched on as well but it’s got a fuzzy picture.

Cigarettes and all the women’s purses are also out in the open as well.

So Stacey is now walking around in underwear and has no money and no car. But according to Janelle it’s logical she went for a walk around the block apparently.


Didn’t call Janis to see if Stacey had called home that morning either which again would of been normal given the fact she couldn’t find her friends and she was so desperate to locate them.

So Janelle starts ringing the home from about 8am, goes to the house after a few hours of ringing . All signs are there that the women should be there but are not and instead of caring ( even though she had just spent her entire morning trying to contact them) just thinks I’ll go to the water park. That contradicts her entire behavior of that morning.



There is more but I will leave it at that as it’s 11.20pm here.

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

How many people discover three women missing from a residence? There's no set of instructions to follow as an 18 year old trying to get everyone together for a water park trip.
I think this case is closer to a criminal ring starting with someone interested in Sherrill and Suzie.

 

[irisheyesofblue]

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I know for a fact Mike never dealt drugs. You can check the records all you want.

 

[cherrymeg]

How many people discover three women missing from a residence? There's no set of instructions to follow as an 18 year old trying to get everyone together for a water park trip.
I think this case is closer to a criminal ring starting with someone interested in Sherrill and Suzie.

You are right about that. Teenagers would maybe have thought nothing of purses. I do wonder why they checked everywhere but Stacy's house for them. I still think something possibly happened at one of the parties or their was a rapist staying in town jmo. I would like to see the police double or check with the people that saw them at parties. If covering up underage drinking or a crime that wasn't murder was the goal then it's probably too old to prosecute now, so that and age could make people come forward.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

Apco is the only one that seems credible. George's sighting was ruled out. Apco wasn't officially ruled out, someone on 48 Hours suggest the clerk was wrong,they were across the street and not close enough to see anyways, but he only had 10-12 customers a night. I am pretty sure this was a legit identification.

Irish, please see some of the media link pages on Websleuths. Another user posted the Apco Newspaper clippings.

Finally....something we agree on. LoL
And I posted the newspaper clippings a few miles back on this thread.
And yes, she (older woman) was across the street and unless she had binoculars I don't take her 'opinion' seriously.

 

[cherrymeg]

Finally....something we agree on. LoL
And I posted the newspaper clippings a few miles back on this thread.
And yes, she (older woman) was across the street and unless she had binoculars I don't take her 'opinion' seriously.

Do you have anymore articles you can post?

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

How many people discover three women missing from a residence? There's no set of instructions to follow as an 18 year old trying to get everyone together for a water park trip.
I think this case is closer to a criminal ring starting with someone interested in Sherrill and Suzie.

But if that was true, it would imply that one of them were into drugs, or knew something about someone who was dealing, or connected to it. And, may be they became paranoid when Susie gave her statement to police, and thought she might spill the beans. OR, Sherrill was into something way over her head, and that information just hasn't been released to the public by police.

 

[SpringfieldMan341]

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This is something that needs to be said more. The town is small and many people connected........does not make everyone connected guilty. However, when people are connected to criminals the detectives were seriously into....like Garrison, it's interesting.

 

[irisheyesofblue]

This is something that needs to be said more. The town is small and many people connected........does not make everyone connected guilty. However, when people are connected to criminals the detectives were seriously into....like Garrison, it's interesting.

I lived in a smaller town when in HS and yes you can say everyone I went to HS with is “connected”, but I did not know most of them and would not of even been able to tell you if they went to my school.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

You may not have seen my posts but I have never claimed they was responsible for the actual murders. But I think they knew a lot more than they let on.

Obviously I could be wrong and they could both have IQ’s of a apple.

Let’s just remember

Stacey and Suzie has plans with Janelle and as of 2.15am when they left them plans had not changed.

Janelle arrived and Porch light still on and 3 cars in the drive way.

They look around the home expecting the 3 women to be there ( a obvious assumption as all the cars are there)

She would of checked the bedrooms to see if they were all still asleep and Stacey’s clothing that Janelle saw her in less than 7 hours before was laid out on the floor.

So Janelle knows that Stacey can’t be dressed at this stage. It’s been said Suzie and Stacey were completely different sizes and Janelle again knew this being friends with both women they couldn’t share clothing

TV is still switched on as well but it’s got a fuzzy picture.

Cigarettes and all the women’s purses are also out in the open as well.

So Stacey is now walking around in underwear and has no money and no car. But according to Janelle it’s logical she went for a walk around the block apparently.


Didn’t call Janis to see if Stacey had called home that morning either which again would of been normal given the fact she couldn’t find her friends and she was so desperate to locate them.

So Janelle starts ringing the home from about 8am, goes to the house after a few hours of ringing . All signs are there that the women should be there but are not and instead of caring ( even though she had just spent her entire morning trying to contact them) just thinks I’ll go to the water park. That contradicts her entire behavior of that morning.



There is more but I will leave it at that as it’s 11.20pm here.

Exactly.
What concerns me is the not calling Janis, at all.
Also....SPD was 'suspicious' at least at the beginning, along with the public so it's not unreasonable people still question the incongruity of claim to be 'concerned' and actions taken (or not taken) that day by their friends.

Officer Glen, "I personally find it strange....."

 

[MooseMeMuch]

Interview with Stuart McCall......

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Exactly.
What concerns me is the not calling Janis, at all.
Also....SPD was 'suspicious' at least at the beginning, along with the public so it's not unreasonable people still question the incongruity of claim to be 'concerned' and actions taken (or not taken) that day by their friends.

Officer Glen, "I personally find it strange....."

Glen says in that article that JK and MH didn't come back to the house after their initial visit in the morning, until a few hours later. I'm pretty sure I read that they didn't actually go back to the house until 7:30pm, and if that's true, that's more than a few hours. This is what is screwed up about this case. So many different accounts from people, and news articles. Makes it hard to keep things straight and convolutes everything.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

Most of them went to the same HS. That does not mean they are connected other than that.

I don't consider Springfield a 'small town'....and no way did I know everyone in my class of @ 375 people.
There were, of course, different social groups that 'hung' together.