Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #9

[SAMS]

What if Sherrill had a late mystery visitor, hence Suzie not being able to pull behind her mothers car like she normally did. Maybe Stacy and Suzie came in and went straight to her room/bathroom, removed makeup and got into night clothes before checking to see what Sherrill was doing? Maybe Sherrill had already been murdered (sorry but gotta say it) and the girls walked in on something and were forced away at gunpoint. Strangulation=no blood evidence and weapon=Suzie and Stacy do as they're told. Just throwing some theories out there.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

I wonder how well visiting relatives were questioned. Some people might have been gone before the police even started looking for the women.

good question.....in my thoughts.....I doubt any guests were questioned let alone LE asked for guest's names. Pretty sure it's protocol to question those closest to the victim(s) then broaden the search. Never too late, could SPD interview visitors to the area at that time? I would think so.

 

[cherrymeg]

good question.....in my thoughts.....I doubt any guests were questioned let alone LE asked for guest's names. Pretty sure it's protocol to question those closest to the victim(s) then broaden the search. Never too late, could SPD interview visitors to the area at that time? I would think so.

People might not have mentioned any relatives that had criminal backgrounds. Sometimes traveling out of state is a violation of probation or parole. I wonder if people took pictures at the parties. I know they didn't have cellphones but I used to have a camera I'd take out with me when phones took crappy pics and so did most friends.

 

[cherrymeg]

What if Sherrill had a late mystery visitor, hence Suzie not being able to pull behind her mothers car like she normally did. Maybe Stacy and Suzie came in and went straight to her room/bathroom, removed makeup and got into night clothes before checking to see what Sherrill was doing? Maybe Sherrill had already been murdered (sorry but gotta say it) and the girls walked in on something and were forced away at gunpoint. Strangulation=no blood evidence and weapon=Suzie and Stacy do as they're told. Just throwing some theories out there.

Sherrill's bed looks like she just flipped the covers off on her side to get out of bed. Strangulation can be messy, urination and defecation can occur. I don't think the three women could have all been alive or all in the house when they were taken. You know nothing good is going to happen if someone abducts you, your daughter and a friend. You have nothing to lose by fighting back. If someone posed as a cop to get them out I would think they would get dressed have there purses with them. Unless it was ambush or the girls were pulled over by a cop like car near the house causing Sherrill to come out. Why put the purses back. Something about how the purses were left bothers me. I feel like it says something about who took them. Or maybe I'm over thinking them.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

People might not have mentioned any relatives that had criminal backgrounds. Sometimes traveling out of state is a violation of probation or parole. I wonder if people took pictures at the parties. I know they didn't have cellphones but I used to have a camera I'd take out with me when phones took crappy pics and so did most friends.

 

[MooseMeMuch]

Disposable cameras......invented in '86. No excuse not to have a camera so I wonder if LE thought about asking classmates for photos....

 

[MooseMeMuch]

Sherrill's bed looks like she just flipped the covers off on her side to get out of bed. Strangulation can be messy, urination and defecation can occur. I don't think the three women could have all been alive or all in the house when they were taken. You know nothing good is going to happen if someone abducts you, your daughter and a friend. You have nothing to lose by fighting back. If someone posed as a cop to get them out I would think they would get dressed have there purses with them. Unless it was ambush or the girls were pulled over by a cop like car near the house causing Sherrill to come out. Why put the purses back. Something about how the purses were left bothers me. I feel like it says something about who took them. Or maybe I'm over thinking them.

no, no, not over thinking...Janis thought the lined-up were......odd from the git-go.

One thought I had was someone had OCD issues. But another thought could be someone was in a hurry.

Your idea about not all the women being taken alive would help explain the no signs of a struggle 'in' the house.

 

[Talullah]

I’d LOVE to see party pictures.
That Stacy told someone at her job she was worried about or scared for Sherrill makes me believe she spent more time with Sherrill and Suzie than anyone admitted. I wish we knew who Stacy talked to and when.

 

[Talullah]

The purses bother me too. If it was just Stacy’s and Suzie’s purses it wouldn’t be so weird, but Sherrill’s purse makes me think someone returned them to the house. I can’t imagine why Sherrill’s purse would’ve been next to theirs.

 

[cherrymeg]

I’d LOVE to see party pictures.
That Stacy told someone at her job she was worried about or scared for Sherrill makes me believe she spent more time with Sherrill and Suzie than anyone admitted. I wish we knew who Stacy talked to and when.

I think I heard it was Suzie that seemed nervous about her mom. Then I heard everyone was in good spirits and happy. It would be nice to know what is true and who said what. I think sometimes the names add to confusion. I've questioned if I said Suzie when I meant Stacy and vice versa. If it was Stacy that worried about Sherrill, why not have Suzie sleep at her house.

 

[cherrymeg]

no, no, not over thinking...Janis thought the lined-up were......odd from the git-go.

One thought I had was someone had OCD issues. But another thought could be someone was in a hurry.

Your idea about not all the women being taken alive would help explain the no signs of a struggle 'in' the house.

Not taking the money after you killed or made three women vanish is weird. It makes you wonder if whoever put the purses back or lined them up felt guilty. Purses are private and not taking money from them seems like maybe the perpetrator didn't want to violate the women anymore than they just had.

 

[Talullah]

Sherrill’s purse being there makes me more sure she wasn’t the target.

 

[cherrymeg]

Sherrill’s purse being there makes me more sure she wasn’t the target.

Yeah. And why not take it too. The way that one cop talked about her I feel like he would have thought she was involved or ran off with a man and didn't know anything happened. Asher the cop seemed very prejudice against Sherrill and Suzie even though nothing supported his beliefs.

 

[Talullah]

Maybe the purses were a distraction. If someone can make 3 women disappear purses shouldn’t be a problem.
I can’t imagine being a single mom with a teenage daughter in a town like Springfield. I imagine people (especially “happily” married women) assumed something was wrong with Sherrill-she was wild or partied too much-without trying to put themselves in her shoes. Hopefully such assumptions didn’t have too much influence on how LE handled the investigation.

 

[cherrymeg]

Maybe the purses were a distraction. If someone can make 3 women disappear purses shouldn’t be a problem.
I can’t imagine being a single mom with a teenage daughter in a town like Springfield. I imagine people (especially “happily” married women) assumed something was wrong with Sherrill-she was wild or partied too much-without trying to put themselves in her shoes. Hopefully such assumptions didn’t have too much influence on how LE handled the investigation.

In the 48 hours episode (I know I keep bringing that up) Asher seemed very judgemental. When people say Sherrill was a private person it might be that she didn't have much in common with some of the married mothers and didn't want to be the subject of gossip. It can be hard to bond with people that you don't have anything in common with. It seemed like her profession was looked down on. Being a hairdresser isn't something just anyone can do. I don't understand that.

 

[Blue Girl1991]

I totally agree with the idea of a larger reward as an incentive to getting someone to talk. I also think that if police would also throw out an offer of unfettered guaranteed immunity from prosecution, to anyone who would come forward and tell them the whole story of what happened that night, this case may also finally be solved. At this point, 22-yrs later, I think this option should be utilized by police. I would at least be worth a try.

Interesting idea.

But 22 years isn't very long. Oh, we can perceive it as such. We here here x all those years ago when the crimes took place, and now, many years later, we are here x.

We change, we age, but the facts of that night are ever new, and justice, and punishment, is predicated on the moment of the crime's occurrence. The crime is forever new.

I'd offer immunity to anyone with knowledge who helped after the fact. But those who committed the kidnappings and murders must face justice always.

I totally agree with your posts Scooby Doo 4U , fielding1

a combination of announcement of the police regarding immunity to anyone who give a valuable information about what happened , who and why
(Not including someone who actually Committed or planed the crime) and a boost to the money reward can lead to solving this crime.

 

[flute4peace]

lol! Isn't that Scooby Doo 4U 's line?

 

[Missouri Mule]

This idea of the perps not entering the residence at all has always been a part of my theory(ies). I still find the waitress at Georges sighting of the women that night to be legit. She allegedly witnessed them talking to guys she didnt recognize and Suzie acting loud (or drunk), which makes sense since they had attended a few parties and it was grad night. Maybe Sherrill invited the girls out to eat, some guys chatted them up and Suzie smarted off to one of them, pissing them off. They followed the ladies to the Delmar residence unknowingly, parked out of site and approached the house on foot. One of them attempts to knock the porch light out to disguise their approach, but it only affects the casing and not the bulb itself. Hearing the commotion, Sherrill and perhaps the girls, go outside to see whats going on and are taken by gunpoint after some sort of fight.
Or
Same scenario at Georges, but the guys arent pissed at Suzie but instead find a way to get an invite from the ladies, maybe even followed them home without them knowing again, but this time Suzie hears someone pull in the drive after removing clothes and makeup and goes out to meet their newly found friends. Perhaps Stacy joins her after borrowing a pair of sweats from Suzie, beforehand. Some type of fight/chaos ensues that makes Sherrill come out at some point and they are all taken at gunpoint by one or more perps.

Has it ever been determined if LE could verify the girls being at Georges, perhaps by receipt or a banking statement of Sherrills? JMO's.

[/QUOTE]

I was in contact with one of the primary reporters who wrote about this case and she had a lot of friends in “police land” (her words). She told me that the attire the women were wearing was “western wear” and not typical of what they were known to be wearing.

The timeline didn’t work either. When I first viewed the waitress’s account on “48 Hours” I found her quite compelling but the facts don’t support her account.

Someone previously asked me, I believe, who my suspects were. Three are obvious. The one I won’t name is the one who posts or has posted using multiple screen names. I would hope this is against the rules but if posting with a cellular iPad/iPhone or with a VPN it would not be possible to identify such a person except through patterns of writing as the IP address would change. And that is not foolproof either.

My understanding is that Sherrill was mostly using cash in her last days. If she was being chased by creditors over her divorced husband’s bills she would not want that money in a bank account where it could be easily garnisheed.

Although her divorce decree may have directed him to pay certain bills if she was a co-signer that would not have removed her liability for those bills. So far as I know from Missouri Casenet is the only outstanding judgment was from Montgomery Wards (now defunct) that would have been written off as uncollectible upon learning of her death.

 

[SAMS]

Im beginning to believe that Sherrill had not been in her bed but prepared to do so by pulling back her covers. Her bed was too tidy outside of the cover neatly pulled back and in CWD w/C Hanson, Janis says that Sherrills bed was made and appeared not slept in. Those ladies didnt make it to bed that night.

 

[Missouri Mule]

As long as the person you're referring to isn't the same person we've talked about who was at work all night long 70-miles away, you're fine. That's not who you're referring to is it?

Your post is interesting.

Would you mind expanding on that?

Offhand, I can’t recall mentioning such an individual.