Misty C. #2

[Kat]

I would think there would still be something which could tie Misty to Haleigh's disappearance if she were responsible. (She isn't smarter than another known suspect where the evidence was all over the place, imo.) For her to carry out even a soft kill and dispose of Haleigh, she would have left some clues along the way. There HAS to be something there! LE has overlooked it (proving they are incompetent) or nothing took place at the home and the entire thing happened somewhere else.

I think you're right that she isn't smarter or more clever than the other known suspect of another case. But now that you mention it ))---anyone that has followed that case more than just media coverage---say on a computer---would have a pretty good idea what to be careful for now that the other known suspect is in the pokey---you know all the doc dumps of evidence and chatter of us and others on the internet. Unfortunately, a lot of ppl that plan to do away with someone can learn from that case. First and foremost that comes to mind is don't decorate the deceased with stickers, and don't carry the deceased around in the trunk of you car....but back on topic...

A soft kill is just a possibility that I put out there. The washing of the blankets could have disposed of evidence of a soft kill. We don't know what else she washed.

FWIW, I don't think she did do a soft kill IMHO.

 

[Donjeta]

I have wondered MANY times if it actually took place somewhere else.

It would certainly explain many things. Why Misty can't keep her story together and why there were no signs of forced entry.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

If it did take place somewhere else, there should be witnesses to seeing Misty away from the home WITH the children, hearing/seeing her leave/return with the children, and indications from neighbors no one was at the home during the time she was gone (lights off, no vehicles, no sounds).

 

[Kat]

If it did take place somewhere else, there should be witnesses to seeing Misty away from the home WITH the children, hearing/seeing her leave/return with the children, and indications from neighbors no one was at the home during the time she was gone (lights off, no vehicles, no sounds).

It was rumored that witnesses did say she was away from the home. (Never heard anything more on that so it's a rumor until verified). The rumor did not state IIRC if she was alone or with children. ?

It is possible to leave and return to a home without neighbors noticing. Not probable, but possible.

It's also possible to leave a home with lights on etc...possible and only probable if someone isnt' concerned with electric bills and such.

There was a rumor of one sound that of a scream. I don't know enough of that particular rumor to speculate.

What I'm trying to say is that I'm not sure we could rule out the "crime happened elsewhere" based on no activity being seen by neighbors. Just my two cents.

 

[tehcloser]

If it did take place somewhere else, there should be witnesses to seeing Misty away from the home WITH the children, hearing/seeing her leave/return with the children, and indications from neighbors no one was at the home during the time she was gone (lights off, no vehicles, no sounds).

Well we have the "rumor" of the tip that says she was not home, and at one point, we had a rumor of this person being the one that was with Misty at the time...if that person exists, wealth of info there...Maybe LE has talked to them and been looking that way all along. I don't like the rumor thing...but thought I would bring that up.

KAT....I owe you a coke!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

OK She claims Joe tried to molest her or whatever she claimed. What if this actually took place the night Haleigh went missing and he actually raped her? Would she tell Ronald?

 

[tehcloser]

OK She claims Joe tried to molest her or whatever she claimed. What if this actually took place the night Haleigh went missing and he actually raped her? Would she tell Ronald?

Or what if the molesting thing was because she got caught, and her and JO kinda have a thing going on....KWIM?

 

[Kat]

Well we have the "rumor" of the tip that says she was not home, and at one point, we had a rumor of this person being the one that was with Misty at the time...if that person exists, wealth of info there...Maybe LE has talked to them and been looking that way all along. I don't like the rumor thing...but thought I would bring that up.

KAT....I owe you a coke!

:wink: @ teh, pinch poke <snicker> (dont' have an icon for snickering )

 

[Kat]

OK She claims Joe tried to molest her or whatever she claimed. What if this actually took place the night Haleigh went missing and he actually raped her? Would she tell Ronald?

I don't think she would tell RC. Can't say why, I just don't think she would.

Or what if the molesting thing was because she got caught, and her and JO kinda have a thing going on....KWIM?

Hunh, actually rather than going in the direction of a consentual sexual relationship first, why was her blanket in the van (her own words per interview)?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Or maybe it wasn't him, but someone else we are totally unaware of at this point? The reason LE can't tie him to anything.

ETA: The blanket in the van would be in the custody of LE and there should be evidence there. Again, they would have some answers.

Was the van parked at the house? Was it at the SIL's house? If it was at SIL's house, why was it taken in by LE? Makes no sense.

 

[Kat]

Or maybe it wasn't him, but someone else we are totally unaware of at this point? The reason LE can't tie him to anything.

I remember speculating about this back when we had general threads. That is was possible that MC had another lover. I don't agree with interpretation of the 911 call of RC in the background cursing and going off as an indication of an overall abusive relationship. Now don't get me wrong it's possible that he is abusive, I'm just saying that one phone call doesn't cement the thought to me...JMHO, not trying to argue that point.

Now it was speculated (by others) that she had this fellow over and Haleigh woke up, recognized him and was murdered to keep her quiet because she couldn't be trusted to not tell Daddy.

I didn't go in that direction. My speculation about MC was that she left the home to go meet with her lover, leaving the door open to return prior to RC coming home.

Not sure where to go with MC. LE is not making it easy, but if they haven't excluded her, I'm not going to within my own mind....Just my two cents.

 

[Donjeta]

If it did take place somewhere else, there should be witnesses to seeing Misty away from the home WITH the children, hearing/seeing her leave/return with the children, and indications from neighbors no one was at the home during the time she was gone (lights off, no vehicles, no sounds).

Have any neighbours come forward saying that they've seen or heard them home? Seen the lights? Cars? As far as I'm aware the only people who have placed them at home that evening have been family and the AC guy at five or so.

 

[Kat]

An added thought: If she wanted to marry RC, it doesn't automatically mean that she would be faithful to him. Just that she had a concept of marriage and wanted that marriage. I think we've all known women (even very young women) that keep all their options open, by having someone they think will marry them but also carrying on with one or more men. I am not saying that MC is/was doing that...just saying it's a possibility.

The reason I put that out there is the unbridled happiness that was seen in the media by MC after she got her ring and it was announced that the marriage would take place. Just struck me as a hmmmm. That's all.

I have wondered why her blanket was in the van that "they" took. I haven't seen it identified who "they" are...only rumors and I just don't really put a lot of weight in rumors.

She left her blanket when? Why did she need a blanket in that van? Who was she with when she took her blanket to that van? What was that blanket used for?

And then of course SS's questions: Where was that van parked?

O/T but how many teenages have sex in a vehicle when the opportunity presents itself? I share only certain information on the internet so my mouth is shut on that part of my history

 

[pirate]

I would think there would still be something which could tie Misty to Haleigh's disappearance if she were responsible. (She isn't smarter than another known suspect where the evidence was all over the place, imo.) For her to carry out even a soft kill and dispose of Haleigh, she would have left some clues along the way. There HAS to be something there! LE has overlooked it (proving they are incompetent) or nothing took place at the home and the entire thing happened somewhere else.

She may have someone who is just as smart or smarter helping her though.

 

[pirate]

If it did take place somewhere else, there should be witnesses to seeing Misty away from the home WITH the children, hearing/seeing her leave/return with the children, and indications from neighbors no one was at the home during the time she was gone (lights off, no vehicles, no sounds).

There are many places in the Satsuma/Southeast Putnam area that are isolated- I wouldn't be surprised at all to hear that Misty snuck out late and managed to accomplish something without beeing seen or heard.

 

[pirate]

OK She claims Joe tried to molest her or whatever she claimed. What if this actually took place the night Haleigh went missing and he actually raped her? Would she tell Ronald?

Her statement about JO messing with her (not saying she's believeable though) was that it happened when she was younger.

 

[Indigo]

I remember speculating about this back when we had general threads. That is was possible that MC had another lover. I don't agree with interpretation of the 911 call of RC in the background cursing and going off as an indication of an overall abusive relationship. Now don't get me wrong it's possible that he is abusive, I'm just saying that one phone call doesn't cement the thought to me...JMHO, not trying to argue that point.

Now it was speculated (by others) that she had this fellow over and Haleigh woke up, recognized him and was murdered to keep her quiet because she couldn't be trusted to not tell Daddy.

I didn't go in that direction. My speculation about MC was that she left the home to go meet with her lover, leaving the door open to return prior to RC coming home.

Not sure where to go with MC. LE is not making it easy, but if they haven't excluded her, I'm not going to within my own mind....Just my two cents.

But how do we explain why RC and family bought Misty's story hook, line and sinker? This is the sticking point, JMO.

 

[chesterp]

Hmmm...time for me to rethink Misty....again. Like I have said before...I don't mind admitting when I am wrong and LE sure is making it clear they believe her to be a POI in what they said in the press.

This is so frustrating all the way around tho. With LE's lack of information to the public on this case, it has gotten to the point where I have to wonder if they have ANYTHING at all!

If LE had physical evidence (which they should have after keeping the home for so long), they should already know the answers to their questions. Was there a stranger in the home? Were there signs of a murder/struggle/abduction in the home? Were there indications of a cover up? Was the van parked at the home when LE arrived? What led them to the van, if not? What evidence did they collect from the van? The blankets (in the van and on Haleigh)? (If one blanket was still in the van, it would mean it had not been washed.) The sheets? The doors?

If Misty is responsible for the disappearance without help: What did she do to Haleigh? How did she dispose of her away from the area? How has she held LE at bay this long? How did she convince the family of her innocence?

I keep remember one of your first comments about this case, not verbatim, but MC does not appear to be a "KC" so they should be able to get the truth out of her. My feelings still are a non-registered SO is responsible and I feel MC is not telling the truth about who she has been associating with. I don't feel she is directly responsible, however, if I am wrong I will admit it as well. She is the KEY to finding out the truth. My heart goes out to all the family members and all the rumors and hate filled remarks are not going to find Haleigh. I hope and pray LE have more info than what we are lead to believe. We were told from day one over 120 LE from several counties were brought in including FBI, US Marshalls, FDLE and 4 days later TES searched. WTH is happening with this investigation.

 

[Kat]

But how do we explain why RC and family bought Misty's story hook, line and sinker? This is the sticking point, JMO.

I really don't know. I can only speculate that she presents as a very naive, very helpful, vulnerable young woman. They have only known her 5 or 6 months. My question is: Is she really those things? Or did she set her sights on marrying RC and just reflected on what she perceived that the family wanted to see in her, to win them over, to get what she wanted, which was a marriage.

Disclaimer: I am not saying that's what happened I'm just saying the very slight shift in her demeanor since the ring, could possibly indicate that this is what was going on.

I have been known to be fooled by people myself. I hate to admit it but I have.

I'm not sure what to think about MC to be honest. Just my two cents.

 

[tehcloser]

An added thought: If she wanted to marry RC, it doesn't automatically mean that she would be faithful to him. Just that she had a concept of marriage and wanted that marriage. I think we've all known women (even very young women) that keep all their options open, by having someone they think will marry them but also carrying on with one or more men. I am not saying that MC is/was doing that...just saying it's a possibility.

The reason I put that out there is the unbridled happiness that was seen in the media by MC after she got her ring and it was announced that the marriage would take place. Just struck me as a hmmmm. That's all.

I have wondered why her blanket was in the van that "they" took. I haven't seen it identified who "they" are...only rumors and I just don't really put a lot of weight in rumors.

She left her blanket when? Why did she need a blanket in that van? Who was she with when she took her blanket to that van? What was that blanket used for?

And then of course SS's questions: Where was that van parked?

O/T but how many teenages have sex in a vehicle when the opportunity presents itself? I share only certain information on the internet so my mouth is shut on that part of my history

Bolded by moi.....

That is supposed to stop when you are a teenager??????????? rut roh.:blushing: