Misty C #6

[chemcopout]

Good post. I don't even know what to think anymore. He is a drama queen for sure so I can't get too impressed with his theatrics, even under the extreme circumstances. He should have been there for Haleigh and couldn't even talk to LE and let a barely 17 yr old take all the heat. He stayed outside waiting for Momma, IMO. He cried and whined on the 911 tape, and within a second could change it up to clarity and anger. What was all the "Get here right now" about?
They got there and he did nothing.

As far as Misty goes, we don't even know how bad off she was, if at all. We got info from a drug addict...two of them. Well, I guess all the players are drug addicts which leaves us all in a puddle of doo.

in all fairness to ron, he just found out his child got stolen and it sounded like he was running around the house in the background of the 911 call. then he would yell something into the phone and continue running around the house.

how do u mean he did nothing when le got there? le told him not to search for haleigh himself. i don't think people are allowed to search themselves during an investigation for their missing kids. it's understandable they wouldn't be allowed.

 

[debs]

in all fairness to ron, he just found out his child got stolen and it sounded like he was running around the house in the background of the 911 call. then he would yell something into the phone and continue running around the house.

how do u mean he did nothing when le got there? le told him not to search for haleigh himself. i don't think people are allowed to search themselves during an investigation for their missing kids. it's understandable they wouldn't be allowed.

The initial report by the PCSO states that Ronald was unable to be interviewed.

 

[Whisperer]

Chemcopout..I stand by my post. According to LE. RC who insisted Police get there ASAP, was kneeling on the lawn outside unable to assist with the report of Haleigh missing. He left that task up to his 17 yr old GF...and his mom, who coincidently arrived at the same time as LE. She spoke for him.

I have now read about this behavior from RC and LE again. He does not like to talk to LE when they arrive to talk to him. At the last arrest, he remained mum. He just might have a fear of saying something incriminating to them...IMO

When your daughter is missing, it is time to put on your Big Boy Pants and talk to the LE.

.........He sure did enough complaining about them and making demands before they arrived....

 

[winterrose]

So,when she was robbed at the apt complex last night,why didn't LE stay around and finish getting the women's story?And why in the heck did one of the women with her tell LE they were going to buy drugs at the complex?LOL Hello?What is wrong with these people?

 

[trigger]

So,when she was robbed at the apt complex last night,why didn't LE stay around and finish getting the women's story?And why in the heck did one of the women with her tell LE they were going to buy drugs at the complex?LOL Hello?What is wrong with these people?

I guess we will find out. These people are drug addicts. They have no brains. And Misty is going down a slippery slope.

 

[atherella]

Misty has a hearing on November 16th at 2:30 pm to drop the restraining order against Tommy:

 

[YellowSubmarine]

in all fairness to ron, he just found out his child got stolen and it sounded like he was running around the house in the background of the 911 call. then he would yell something into the phone and continue running around the house.

how do u mean he did nothing when le got there? le told him not to search for haleigh himself. i don't think people are allowed to search themselves during an investigation for their missing kids. it's understandable they wouldn't be allowed.

BBM --

I'm sorry, but if MY child were missing, it would take the entire police dept and half the National Guard to keep me from searching. I don't know how it's "understandable". If someones child goes missing, they BETTER be out there searching.

 

[curvecuti]

BBM --

I'm sorry, but if MY child were missing, it would take the entire police dept and half the National Guard to keep me from searching. I don't know how it's "understandable". If someones child goes missing, they BETTER be out there searching.

In the beginning RC and family DID search. TN was even accused of trying to kill Cobra. I think LE tells the families not to search because IF they found her or God forbid, her body, crucial evidence needed for prosecution could be destroyed in an instant of emotion.

 

[azwriter]

in all fairness to ron, he just found out his child got stolen and it sounded like he was running around the house in the background of the 911 call. then he would yell something into the phone and continue running around the house.

how do u mean he did nothing when le got there? le told him not to search for haleigh himself. i don't think people are allowed to search themselves during an investigation for their missing kids. it's understandable they wouldn't be allowed.

Thanks chemcopout for your explaination of what Ron was doing during Misty's call to 911. I agree, everyone handles a crisis differently. However, when I compare Ron's reaction during the call and what he did once LE arrived, I am puzzled.
During the call, I hear from him: anger, surprise and sorrow as well as an excuse as to why he didn't know much about his daughter's disappearance - "I just got home from work."
He cusses the operator and the need to provide Haleigh's birthdate and the fact that help is not there instantly. He has no patience for giving helpful information to the 911 operator. As well, Ron also blasts Misty for allowing whatever occured to happen.
Heck, when my cat was a kitten and I couldn't find her for an hour, I searched up and down the alley behind my house twice as well as opened every drawer and cabinet and searched under every bed. Luckily she was curled up asleep among the pots and pans in the kitchen.
Maybe a missing kitten isn't a very appropriate comparison, but if my child was no where to be found, I'd be knocking on every neighbor's door and checking inside every car trunk in the neighborhood before help even arrived. I'd be out there calling his or her name so loud I'd wake the entire street.
Then again, your point that Ron could have been in shock and unable provice help, could very well be the reason for his lack of cooperation.
jmo

 

[Crosby87]

Misty has a hearing on November 16th at 2:30 pm to drop the restraining order against Tommy:

Now isn't that sweet; Misty will be home in time to celebrate her birthday on December 9th with her family and perhaps she'll stick around to celebrate Christmas & New Year's too!

 

[kamky]

I may have posted this on the wrong thread, so posting it here, too.

I think Misty loved all the trappings of having a boyfriend/husband and a home, etc., as much as or more than necessarily loving Ron. Compared to what she had before in her life, I think in her view, that he was quite a "catch" and raised her status in life.

If she was either involved with Haleigh's abduction, or had some culpability in Haleigh's abduction, or was doing something she shouldn't have that led to Haleigh's abduction, then this made it her fault (or partly her fault) that Haleigh was gone. I think she knows that Ron would never forgive her for this, so she would lose Ron & all the improvements in her life.

So Misty had a "Catch 22". If she told what she knew, it might lead to Haleigh, but she would lose all she most wanted. If she did not tell what she knew, she might retain what she most wanted, but it almost certainly prevented Haleigh from being found (unless LE got lucky). It appears that she chose the second option.

Once Ron gave up his hope that Misty would tell him what she knows and he ended the relationship, Misty lost what she wanted, and her "Catch 22" was settled for her. Now, the question is what will happen next! Unfortunately, since Misty has supposedly left town, this eliminates the chance that someone she knows in Putnam County will hear her admit something. But, if she is gone, maybe it raises the chance that someone else that knows something might decide to spill the beans. It's still possible that someone in Nashville may hear Misty say something and report it to PCSO, but this may not be likely since it's so far away.

 

[Malesherbes]

I may have posted this on the wrong thread, so posting it here, too.

I think Misty loved all the trappings of having a boyfriend/husband and a home, etc., as much as or more than necessarily loving Ron. Compared to what she had before in her life, I think in her view, that he was quite a "catch" and raised her status in life.

If she was either involved with Haleigh's abduction, or had some culpability in Haleigh's abduction, or was doing something she shouldn't have that led to Haleigh's abduction, then this made it her fault (or partly her fault) that Haleigh was gone. I think she knows that Ron would never forgive her for this, so she would lose Ron & all the improvements in her life.

So Misty had a "Catch 22". If she told what she knew, it might lead to Haleigh, but she would lose all she most wanted. If she did not tell what she knew, she might retain what she most wanted, but it almost certainly prevented Haleigh from being found (unless LE got lucky). It appears that she chose the second option.

Once Ron gave up his hope that Misty would tell him what she knows and he ended the relationship, Misty lost what she wanted, and her "Catch 22" was settled for her. Now, the question is what will happen next! Unfortunately, since Misty has supposedly left town, this eliminates the chance that someone she knows in Putnam County will hear her admit something. But, if she is gone, maybe it raises the chance that someone else that knows something might decide to spill the beans. It's still possible that someone in Nashville may hear Misty say something and report it to PCSO, but this may not be likely since it's so far away.

Ron also had a lot of heat on him because some were outraged he was having sexual relations with a child- and I think that was a fear for him to have charges be brought against him for that, so thats why he married her-

We probably will never know, I am sure now if she does tell on him, he is just going to play the shes mad I dumped her card, dont believe her-

jmo

 

[elle1919]

Can I ask if Misty has left for Tennessee yet? I understand there was a thought that she missed her bus, do we know if she went? Also, for anyone that knows, is Flora the gramma that Misty lived with before she first came to Satsuma? I hope and pray that if there is anything that needs to be said on Misty's part, Gramma Flora can pull it out.

I am just losing hope.

 

[Flossie JMO]

I haven't heard if she missed the bus. http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/26...haleigh-cummings-dead-misty-splits/#more-3305

Acccording to Art Harris, she lived with Gramma Flora when she was about 12:
When I called their relatives Wednesday, Lisa’s mother, Flora Hollars, (“Dollar with with an H instead of a D and an S at the end&#8221 66, said Hank told her he was moving to Nashville because he was looking for work and there were no jobs in Satsuma.

Flora told me Misty had lived with her as a young girl, when she was about 12, and had a terrible time in school “because her parents never made her go. She hated school, but I made her go. She only missed one day in four months, but she’d sit in the living room at the table and get so upset when she had to do homework. She’d say, ‘Nanny, I don’t know how to do this!’ So I’d say, ‘I may not be much help, Misty, but let me try.’”
http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/15...gation-update-haleigh-case-break-coming-soon/

 

[atherella]

Can I ask if Misty has left for Tennessee yet? I understand there was a thought that she missed her bus, do we know if she went? Also, for anyone that knows, is Flora the gramma that Misty lived with before she first came to Satsuma? I hope and pray that if there is anything that needs to be said on Misty's part, Gramma Flora can pull it out.

I am just losing hope.

If Art Harris is to be believed waitasec Misty left Monday and was due to arrive in TN at 3am. Apparently it was the bus on Sunday she missed. (You can read that info under comment #1 (Inside Source):

http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/26...-haleigh-cummings-dead-misty-splits/#comments

 

[pittsburghgirl]

For those who have asked why Ron wasn't out "searching" in the middle of the night, it was 3 am--the middle of the night. People are asleep. It's dark. The call to 911 was the right and proper move, once the trailer, yard and close environs had been searched. This wasn't like a child "missing'' right after school, when it was light enough for family and neighbors to turn the neighborhood upside down.

We don't know what either side of the family has done to search for Haleigh. LE had the case within the first 8 hours of her disappearance (I am counting from about 7 pm on as possible time of disappearance, just to cover the bases), so LE would have taken charge of any official search. I recall that LE told the parents not to search on their own. They wouldn't say that if they thought a child had been lost or injured. Didn't Junior say a man took his sister? And didn't LE say, early in the case, that they suspected stranger abduction? If LE saw indications of a stranger abduction, at some point, then, an official search of nearby places where a small child might have gone on her own must have been conducted with no tangible results.

To my mind, the usefulness of assessing the proper amount of "searching" for a missing child (in terms of guessing about the guilt of a parent) is over-rated, particularly in cases where small children have disappeared and the likelihood is some sort of foul play or stranger abduction. Where is a parent to look, once the house, yard, outbuilding and green spaces in the neighborhood have been searched? Even if the child is in the next door or nearby neighbor's house (Jessica Lunsford; a young boy in Pittsburgh some years ago), parents can't demand entry to search the homes of neighbors or RSOs. That takes a warrant and LE. There are only two reasons to search: 1) to find a child who has wandered off, gotten lost or become trapped or injured; or 2) to find a body. And may I remind us all that the physical searches for Elizabeth Smart--who was a live teenager held outdoors within a few miles of her own home--were unsuccessful. In most non-fiction accounts of abductions, parents are often asked just to stay home by the phone in case a child or abductor calls and let professionals carry out the investigation.

As one of the LE officers said last night (on some show or other), what's left is old-fashioned police work. Investigating alibis, looking at cell records, talking to people, following tips and leads, etc. When was the last reliable sighting of Haleigh? Who was in that house from the time Ron left for work until LE arrived in the middle of the night? Who was there? Who left? When? Who called or was called from the house? Who might have had access on foot to the house during the night? Who talked to Misty and may know whether Misty was drunk or high that evening? And so on. My guess is the LE has answers to some of those questions and they aren't sharing them with us yet.

 

[Bobbisangel]

BBM --

I'm sorry, but if MY child were missing, it would take the entire police dept and half the National Guard to keep me from searching. I don't know how it's "understandable". If someones child goes missing, they BETTER be out there searching.

If my little girl was out there somewhere in the woods or tall grass, etc, I would much rather someone else find her then for me to find her. LE want to save the parents the horror of finding their child dead and in ? condition. Before we have a child murdered we think we would do all kinds of things but if it happens it is a different story. LE is just thinking about the emotional/mental health of the parents. Personally, I could not even go to the crime scene when my daughter was shot 3 times and half laying and half sitting in her car. I couldn't go there and see her like that. No one told me not to go there...I just didn't. I would never have been able to erase that picture in my head.

 

[DotsEyes]

First, as for Ron not being of much help to LE when they arrived, can someone tell me exactly what information he would have other than height, weight, hair and eys? He wasn't there to see what she went to sleep in, or who was in which bed, or what woke Misty, or if the kitchen light was off when she fell asleep, or what time she woke up, or what the house looked like after he left for work, or who came by, or if laundry was or was not done that night, or that GGS dropped off some clothes, or the kids eating on the porch.

I dare say the fact that he knew nothing made him even more fearful, angry, etc. etc. and therefore was of little help when LE needed answers to questions.


Family is not allowed on LE searches because they may stumble across evidence. Then it looks like they led searchers to the spot when in fact, they were simply in the group that located the evidence. There is a slight possibility that the family will actually discover evidence and it throws an unnecessary element into the investigation. Furthermore, LE does not want what we saw in JBR, where the parent disturbs the crime scene because they are working on raw emotion.

TES let Ron go on searches. Not LE.

TM says Haleigh is dead. Not LE.

LE knows more than TM ever will about this case and the players. LE doesn't tell all to the media, TM does. LE doesn't set up Misty spies, TM does. (no, he didn't help LE with his polygraph and LVA - they already have their own tests - he just blabbed "his" results to the media). How does this help find Haleigh? It doesn't, but it boosts ratings and gets publicity.

Searchers should search. Law enforcement investigates. Neither of them should be blabbing anything to the media.

 

[Whisperer]

Well, keeping their mouths shut has not gotton anywhere, so maybe putting the pressure on or telling what people say or how they behave would put pressure on the person who did it.

Pretty obvious, LE needs help. I don't think TM would have said anything w/o LE's approval....JMO. He was given leeway and let to take the heat for LE...better TM put it out there.

 

[Whisperer]

Misty has talked alot but has never had an attorney present. RC has told nothing and insiist on having attorneys.....go figure!