Misty C #6

[Whisperer]

It is corrupt if they named a source and the info was not accurate. LE do not routinely pull stories out of their hat. Greenwood either got the information from one of the people involved or the paper is making up what Greenwood said. I cannot imagine a Lt. in the LE not verifying the fact before he put it out there.

 

[Skully]

Howdy Bern, Law Enforcement has stated that the information that came from Tommy about going over and banging on the front door came just recently. I will see if I can find the link but I did link it once.

Got it :http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/...asnt_home_the_night_haleigh_cummings_vanished

snip~“There were numerous attempts to call Misty,” said Maj. Gary Bowling of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office. “Unsuccessful attempts.”

Bowling said Cummings called Tommy Croslin to say he was not able to contact her.

The couple had recently fought, prompting Misty to have a weekend excursion away from Ronald days before.

In the interview at the Putnam County jail where he is being held on a grand theft charge, Croslin told detectives he went down the street and banged on Cummings’ door about an hour after talking to Cummings, but no one answered.

Bowling said it is the first time anyone has said they went to the mobile home after Cummings’ grandmother Annette Sykes left about 7:30 p.m.

“He told us he banged on the door,” Bowling said. “He said it was dark and no lights were on.”

Detectives were told no one came to the door.

“It is surprising that someone would hold that information,” Bowling said.

If Tommy only told them when he got arrested, and we believe LE isn't protecting him (giving the tip early on around Aug 17th) then that means there is another person who knows something. It could be Tommy's wife, she may have known Tommy went over, or someone Tommy told. But at any rate, if Tommy went over and his wife or family knew it, how long was he gone? Long enough to help Misty, long enough to kidnap Haleigh and give her to someone, long enough to do something unspeakable? I talk this out because as I do, I see this was not done in a vacumm, the person has to have time and cover. Tommy wouldn't have had it if his family was home and could say how long he was gone. So Ron called Tommy, Tommy went over, around Aug 17 LE lets out the bombshell that there is a tip she wasn't home, and then Tommy fesses up and LE say it is the first person to say that, so who tipped them off? Lisa C. thinks Misty knows more, and isn't saying what she knows....

 

[Skully]

It is corrupt if they named a source and the info was not accurate. LE do not routinely pull stories out of their hat. Greenwood either got the information from one of the people involved or the paper is making up what Greenwood said. I cannot imagine a Lt. in the LE not verifying the fact before he put it out there.

I do have to say that the Oct 2nd interview with Greenwood, he says that TN was over that night, not GGMS. Every interview that Ron and Misty gave, about how she was on the porch would be a red flag to LE then. They pretty much have stuck to that. But the sleeping arrangements, well that's another story. They out and out changed it. We have have Ron and Misty on video telling two different stories.

Whisper,

I know you believe the Ron and Misty theory, this has been my first one from the beginning, but I like to look at the other ones until I hit that wall or that one thing that doesn't fit. Tommy admitting he was there, is huge, and it gave fuel to the theory it could have been him, but if he got the call at 116 Tyler and it was a house full, they would have known how long he was gone, and he would have told someone Misty wasn't there or the kids.... My husband wouldn't go check on our daughter and then not say a word that she wasn't home or didn't answer the door if she was with small kids at that hour, they had school, remember? Misty pointed that out more than once. My wall with Tommy is, the Croslins would have known that Tommy got the call, went over and I would bet he reported back to Ron.... No proof but common sense tells me that is why Ron called to get an answer. He called Tommy cause it was close.

 

[curvecuti]

If Tommy only told them when he got arrested, and we believe LE isn't protecting him (giving the tip early on around Aug 17th) then that means there is another person who knows something. It could be Tommy's wife, she may have known Tommy went over, or someone Tommy told. But at any rate, if Tommy went over and his wife or family knew it, how long was he gone? Long enough to help Misty, long enough to kidnap Haleigh and give her to someone, long enough to do something unspeakable? I talk this out because as I do, I see this was not done in a vacumm, the person has to have time and cover. Tommy wouldn't have had it if his family was home and could say how long he was gone. So Ron called Tommy, Tommy went over, around Aug 17 LE lets out the bombshell that there is a tip she wasn't home, and then Tommy fesses up and LE say it is the first person to say that, so who tipped them off? Lisa C. thinks Misty knows more, and isn't saying what she knows....

IMO, this is part of the problem, his family wouldn't tell he was gone nor for how long. My goodness, they wouldn't even give a statement to LE about the latest assault incident. To me there is no way they would give up Tommy. IMO, Lisa saying MC knows more than she is telling is just a way to deflect off of Tommy. LC knows that Misty has not been broken thus far, and that Misty doesn't really know what happened, so she casts the spotlight back on her, instead of her downward spiraling son. moo.

 

[elle1919]

IMO TN was talking about the fight because that is what Misty told her.

I read that some believe JO and Tommy took Haleigh and the motive is drugs or guns...don't know how that fits.

Isn't it possible that Misty harmed or found Haleigh and called her brother.

It is my opinion that Teresa Neves was talking about the fight over a gun because her granddaughter was abducted and she was searching for a reason why.

 

[elle1919]

Reads to me like people are saying JO or TC committed the crime. I assume they mean kidnapping Haleigh and perhaps murdering her.

They attribute this synopsis to Guns and Drugs....correct? How does RC and Misty fit into this reasoning?

Whisperer, I was asked to work my theory through from point A to point Z, because it was said that for a given theory to work and go undiscovered many things would need to be simpatico with each other. I did exactly that and interestingly enough it answers your question about Tommy and Cousin Joe in detail. I realize the threads move rather quickly around here and you might have missed it. I will link it for you. : )

Tommy and Joe theory :Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - HaLeigh Cummings Missing Case Theories - Structured Analysis

Once you read the post you will find that beneath my theory are a number of links to further support the theory.

 

[elle1919]

For those would believe and keep repeating LE statements through the media, the first report stated that Lt Greenwood said RC came home from work about 3:00am and woke up Misty when he didn't see Haleigh.

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/c...ng_child_alert

Law enforcement officers with boats and aircraft are searching an area of southern Putnam County for a 5-year-old girl last seen at home about 10 p.m. Monday, authorities said.

A missing and endangered child alert has been issued for Haleigh Cummings, last seen in the Hermit's Cove area of Satsuma when she was in bed. About 3 a.m. the girl's father came home and saw her missing, said Lt. Johnny Greenwood of the Putnam County Sheriff's Office. A woman believed to be the father's wife or girlfriend was also asleep in the residence.

Greenwood said the father noticed Haleigh missing and woke the woman. He said there is no immediate evidence of foul play but that the home off Seven Sisters Road is very near the St. Johns River and that there are canals reaching into the neighborhood.

This is for those who want to believe everything the media puts out there.....which story is it?

There have been a number of updates on the investigation. The story you speak of was from February 10th or somewhere around there correct? Maybe you might find the question and answer session that the same investigator gave on October 10th here: [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJzzICI328A"]YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.[/nomedia] ...helpful

 

[Emeralgem]

IMO, this is part of the problem, his family wouldn't tell he was gone nor for how long. My goodness, they wouldn't even give a statement to LE about the latest assault incident. To me there is no way they would give up Tommy. IMO, Lisa saying MC knows more than she is telling is just a way to deflect off of Tommy. LC knows that Misty has not been broken thus far, and that Misty doesn't really know what happened, so she casts the spotlight back on her, instead of her downward spiraling son. moo.

IMHO..If this is pinned on Tommy, or anyone else other than Ron C it will be a mortal sin. If anything, it is obvious the Croslins have been attempting to save Misty and are afraid to tell the truth about what really happened...
They know Ron C is responsible and they know their daughter/sister and the Cummings have lied to protect him...The whole motley crew needs to be hauled in for lying to LE and impeding this investigation..... That includes the Croslins and the Cummings..JMO

 

[elle1919]

IMHO..If this is pinned on Tommy, or anyone else other than Ron C it will be a mortal sin. If anything, it is obvious the Croslins have been attempting to save Misty and are afraid to tell the truth about what really happened...
They know Ron C is responsible and they know their daughter/sister and the Cummings have lied to protect him...The whole motley crew needs to be hauled in for lying to LE and impeding this investigation..... That includes the Croslins and the Cummings..JMO

Who knows Ron is responsible? Are you saying that Tommy and Lisa C and Hank SR are lying to protect Misty? Misty's own mother thinks she is hiding something and Misty's father said that he doesn't think Misty hurt Haleigh but he DOES THINK Misty was not home the night Haleigh went missing. What good could possibly come from Misty not being home the night Haleigh goes missing?

And this is protecting Misty? In my opinion if they would have refused to allow their child to quit school after 6th grade and laid off the drugs long enough to parent one or all of their children perhaps they wouldn't all be living in a 2 bedroom trailer right now under investigation by DCF and Law Enforcement.:waitasec: Just my opinion

 

[Skully]

I don't think the Croslins have protected any of there children. Lisa gave Tommy up over the gun, and she didn't protect Misty IMO. She let this child drop out of 6th grade. She did make her report the sexual abuse by the boy and made her go to court if we believe the reports on that. But I don't see 2 crackheads as protective parents. And that is Misty's words not mine!

 

[Emeralgem]

Who knows Ron is responsible? Are you saying that Tommy and Lisa C and Hank SR are lying to protect Misty? Misty's own mother thinks she is hiding something and Misty's father said that he doesn't think Misty hurt Haleigh but he DOES THINK Misty was not home the night Haleigh went missing. What good could possibly come from Misty not being home the night Haleigh goes missing?

And this is protecting Misty? In my opinion if they would have refused to allow their child to quit school after 6th grade and laid off the drugs long enough to parent one or all of their children perhaps they wouldn't all be living in a 2 bedroom trailer right now under investigation by DCF and Law Enforcement.:waitasec: Just my opinion

Ron C and the Cummings have made it apparent through their atttempted diabolical schemes, their actions and their lies...... Thats how I know he is responsible...
I also believe the Croslins know exactly where Misty was that night...And the Cummings will deny her having ever left that trailer due to the fact they know she was with them....I highly suspect LE is aware of that fact too....

In regards to your second paragraph...It's all water under the bridge, just as the actions by Ron C before Haleigh disappeared...

 

[texasmommy39]

Ron C and the Cummings have made it apparent through their atttempted diabolical schemes, their actions and their lies...... Thats how I know he is responsible...
I also believe the Croslins know exactly where Misty was that night...And the Cummings will deny her having ever left that trailer due to the fact they know she was with them....I highly suspect LE is aware of that fact too....

In regards to your second paragraph...It's all water under the bridge, just as the actions by Ron C before Haleigh disappeared...

IMVHO The Sheffields have demonstrated guilt through their atttempted diabolical schemes, their actions and their lies...... Thats how we know they are responsible...

 

[Emeralgem]

IMVHO The Sheffields have demonstrated guilt through their atttempted diabolical schemes, their actions and their lies...... Thats how we know they are responsible...

To my knowledge the Sheffields haven't made up any lies about any of the incidents that occured form the time Haleigh got off that bus and the time Misty called 911...But Ron C, Misty and the Cummings have and thats how I know Ron C is responsible.. And that Misty and the Cummings/Sykes are covering for him...

 

[elle1919]

Bringing the thread back around, do we have any new information about Misty? Birthday plans maybe?

 

[Turbo]

Ron C responsible - there is no evidence to suggest he was in any way responsible for the disappearance of Haleigh. He was proven to be at work at the time, passed a lie detector test and has never been a suspect according to LE. To speculate that he is responsible is just plain wrong.

LE has not made public all the evidence or theories they have but you can be sure that if for one moment they believed Ron C was involved they would have hauled him in for questioning. They have not done so.

Everything we know about this case points to Misty being responsible. It is entirely possible that she had help in disposing of the body. Eventually Haleigh will be found and no doubt there will be forensic evidence that links Misty to the crime.

I firmly believe that Haleigh put up a fight about going to bed that night and that Misty lost her temper. She was a 16 year old girl exhausted from a three day party binge, fight with her boyfriend, and drug hangover. She no doubt had a very short fuse that night. She is likely scared to death to admit anything happened for fear Ron C will kill her or that she'll spend her life in prison.

If Tommy was involved in assisting Misty he may well crack at some point. LE needs to continue the pressure on the family.

 

[texasmommy39]

To my knowledge the Sheffields haven't made up any lies about any of the incidents that occured form the time Haleigh got off that bus and the time Misty called 911...But Ron C, Misty and the Cummings have and thats how I know Ron C is responsible.. And that Misty and the Cummings/Sykes are covering for him...

We know nothing of what the Sheffields did from the time HaLeigh got off that bus till the time Haleigh was reported Missing that early morning of Febuary 10th. So how can we assume they didn't lie about being involved in the abduction of Haleigh. Not one of them has came forward and shared their where abouts with the public. In fact it is a big neon pink elephant in the room that we are not supposed to discuss. Chad was not in his warm bed that Monday night- Tuesday morning. Crystal thought it all was a joke at 3:49 in the morning even after hearing police where at the mobile home.
Crystal chose to wait to call her family till after 5 am....... she must of been to lazy to drag her but out of bed that morning as well to even make a phone call or get to Satsuma. Here is a thought maybe she was waiting to hear from Chad that the deed was done?

 

[debs]

Misty was just having a bad night? It's amazing that nearly everyone but herself and Ronald would fall into the speculation hopper!

Those Sheffields..........crafty sorts. Just sat and waited and waited until it was time to sneak in!

I'm more inclined to stay with the simple and uncomplicated: Misty knows what happened and she was rewarded for keeping quiet.

 

[curvecuti]

Misty was just having a bad night? It's amazing that nearly everyone but herself and Ronald would fall into the speculation hopper!

Those Sheffields..........crafty sorts. Just sat and waited and waited until it was time to sneak in!

I'm more inclined to stay with the simple and uncomplicated: Misty knows what happened and she was rewarded for keeping quiet.

I hope no one ever offers me a "reward" like she got. imo.

 

[Helplessly Hoping]

Ron C responsible - there is no evidence to suggest he was in any way responsible for the disappearance of Haleigh. He was proven to be at work at the time, passed a lie detector test and has never been a suspect according to LE. To speculate that he is responsible is just plain wrong.

LE has not made public all the evidence or theories they have but you can be sure that if for one moment they believed Ron C was involved they would have hauled him in for questioning. They have not done so.

Everything we know about this case points to Misty being responsible. It is entirely possible that she had help in disposing of the body. Eventually Haleigh will be found and no doubt there will be forensic evidence that links Misty to the crime.

I firmly believe that Haleigh put up a fight about going to bed that night and that Misty lost her temper. She was a 16 year old girl exhausted from a three day party binge, fight with her boyfriend, and drug hangover. She no doubt had a very short fuse that night. She is likely scared to death to admit anything happened for fear Ron C will kill her or that she'll spend her life in prison.

If Tommy was involved in assisting Misty he may well crack at some point. LE needs to continue the pressure on the family.

I think the second bolded statement negates your first statement if your theory is true....Ron chose to leave his precious children with "a 16 year old girl exhausted from a three day party binge, fight with her boyfriend, and drug hangover." Ron was responsible for Haleigh and Junior and he left them with Misty and as you described above--not a responsible decision....JMO

 

[Skully]

I hope no one ever offers me a "reward" like she got. imo.

That is the last thing I would like to find in a Cracker Jack Box.......