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Very well said, EtherealGirl. Poor Misty has had an abusive and cruel existance for some time. We already know she was sexually molested by a cousin when she was 12 or 13. She seems to be in one abusive relationship after another. It is heartbreaking to see that she will settle for such treatment in this life.
I think she is deathly afraid of Ron Cummings, Haleigh's father. He has a very abusive nature. Did you hear the way he spoke to her during the 911 call?
These poor children! If living with Ron were the lesser of the 2 evils, what a tragic life for all of them! Misty included. Where are Misty's parents?

I totally agree with what you said about Misty being afraid of Ron. As far as Misty's parents, I know Mistys mom was sitting next to her in the first interview she did with News4Jax (the video one). I haven't heard much about her father though, but there is a poster on here that is a local to the area and said that Mistys father kicked her out for her drug use..then she moved in with Ron. I don't have a confirmation to that, obviously. It was just what a local person on here had said (I believe the post is in the Chad Reynolds thread)
 
Originally Posted by FlaSleuth
I don't think she did anything. I think she is a terrible witness, but I don't think she did anything to the child. I think people who are either trained in the law or in LE, or the self-trained folks who follow cases out of interest, give the average joe way too much credit. In our day-to-day lives, we have great flexibility in our spoken word. I can tell you I "never get any sun" or I "never drive at night" and in normal conversation, this is understood as me saying I don't "usually" do those things. I can also tell you I "worked all weekend" or even that I "sat at my computer all afternoon" when in reality I might mean I worked for 4-5 hours each weekend day, and that I was at my computer most of the time, except when I got up to get a drink, go to the bathroom, head to starbucks, etc., etc.

The average American speaks in generalization, hyperbole and exaggeration pretty much every day. This tendency is even stronger among less educated people, and people who have not had professional jobs, because these are people who have not been critiqued or really challenged in their spoken words, and because these verbal communication habits also go hand in hand with a fatalistic world view. So I think everything Misty has said about that evening is true, and the perceived mistakes are due to this communication issue and how she is generalizing and not really thinking out her answers before the words come out of her mouth.

Now, that said, I do think there is a chance she left that night or had a visitor someplace nearby. But for all we know, she admitted that part very early on and it was LE and the media that chose not to release it. But everything else from that night I think is the truth, but it's mangled up because she is not used to having anyone hang on her words. She probably has never really had anyone actively listen to her in her life and is probably only used to speaking words in stream of consciousness.

Personally, I think it's the Reynolds guy or somebody else camped out in the woods, who saw a propped door and went in for food, and then got more brazen and decided to see who was in the house. Or the child woke up and came into the kitchen and he took her then.

I think this is an excellent post. This makes complete sense to me as well.

Just out of curiosity. What do you make of the Hailey's Great Grandmother's claim:

Haleigh's Great-Grandmother Speaks Out, Defends Croslin
Sykes said there is no way Croslin wasn’t home the night Haleigh went missing.
"That's a crock. I went by the house that night. She fed them. She bathed them. Every morning when Haleigh went out to go to school, she looked like she just stepped out of a beauty shop," Sykes said. "Y'all don't know her. Those children love her, and she loves them. I know everybody makes a big deal that she's only 17, and that's true, but she's a lot more mature than a lot of people that I've seen and that I know who are 25 and 30."

I think I believe Great Grandma, unless she has some sort of alzheimer's I am unaware of.
 
Now I am confused, either she is mature enough to handle watching 2 children overnight without losing her temper or allowing something bad to happen to them or she isn't mature enough to plan, carry out and/or conceal a crime. It's one way or the other.
Either she is capable of adult thought and action, the good and the bad, or she isn't.
It just doesn't fly that she is mature to handle these kids but not mature enough to be responsible for Haleigh's death or disappearance.
One way or another, she is complicit, in my mind.
 
Now I am confused, either she is mature enough to handle watching 2 children overnight without losing her temper or allowing something bad to happen to them or she isn't mature enough to plan, carry out and/or conceal a crime. It's one way or the other.
Either she is capable of adult thought and action, the good and the bad, or she isn't.
It just doesn't fly that she is mature to handle these kids but not mature enough to be responsible for Haleigh's death or disappearance.
One way or another, she is complicit, in my mind.
I tend to think repeating "thats all I know" is pretty easy.
 
I tend to think repeating "thats all I know" is pretty easy.

It must be since that's that only part of the story she can stick to.

O/T Thanks for the happy birthday. I only get to hang out here until he gets home from his school and then during naps. Daddy took him to class today so I guess I got a birthday present too.
 
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2009/02/misty-croslin-cats-out-of-the-bag.html

(snip and more at link)
The information I am referring to is a tip that investigators received from a local resident who came forward and told them that Misty Croslin, the 17-year-old girlfriend of Haleigh's father, 24-year-old Ronald Cummings, was not at home the night Haleigh disappeared. It has further been alleged that the night Haleigh was abducted was not the first time Croslin had sneaked out while Cummings was at work and his kids were sleeping. There are further allegations regarding her activities at that time; however that information has not officially been released.
 
Great GM says she was at the trailer at 7:00 and Haleigh was on the porch eating dinner. Then Misty says...after eating the kids watched two movies before going to bed at 8:15. (Movies are named on here somewhere...lol) Now, there is no way you can watch 2 movies in an hour and 15 minutes....so we have another discrepancy. Shocking I know.

ETA...Right as I hit post...HLN has the case on and the reporter said Misty told him she put them to bed at 8:30. So we have 8:00, 8:15 and 8:30...wonder if we will get a 9:00????????
 
Great GM says she was at the trailer at 7:00 and Haleigh was on the porch eating dinner. Then Misty says...after eating the kids watched two movies before going to bed at 8:15. (Movies are named on here somewhere...lol) Now, there is no way you can watch 2 movies in an hour and 15 minutes....so we have another discrepancy. Shocking I know.
And in the interview at her Mothers home, Misty said she put Haleigh to bed at 8, "but, ya know it was a school night, and she wasnt tired".....
BLAH BLAH BLAH
 
Great GM says she was at the trailer at 7:00 and Haleigh was on the porch eating dinner. Then Misty says...after eating the kids watched two movies before going to bed at 8:15. (Movies are named on here somewhere...lol) Now, there is no way you can watch 2 movies in an hour and 15 minutes....so we have another discrepancy. Shocking I know.


Do you know where the names of them are? My kids have vidoes that only run 15-20 minutes per video.
Disney movies, no not that short, but there are some, made specifically for younger kids with short attention spans. I wouldn't call this a discrepancy just yet.
 
Do you know where the names of them are? My kids have vidoes that only run 15-20 minutes per video.
Disney movies, no not that short, but there are some, made specifically for younger kids with short attention spans. I wouldn't call this a discrepancy just yet.


I believe the movies were Madagascar and AirBud! Going off of memory here, so...
 
Do you know where the names of them are? My kids have vidoes that only run 15-20 minutes per video.
Disney movies, no not that short, but there are some, made specifically for younger kids with short attention spans. I wouldn't call this a discrepancy just yet.

I saw Madagascar was one...so yeah, if it was...that is a discrepancy. That why I said the movie names were on here somewhere....they were not short movies. Let me find linkage..................

ETA linkage http://staugustine.com/stories/021909/state_021909_028.shtml

Two movies....Madagascar and Air Bud....longer then an hour and 15 minutes. Discrepancy....lol
 
Air Bud is 93 minutes
Madagascar is 86 minutes
Assuming they watched the originals, and not sequels..
 
Okay, yeah, with the length of the movies, discrepancy. lol.
Unless they are like my kids, watch a quarter of a movie, switch to a different one. But we'll probably never know, since this story will prolly change too.

Okay, time for birthday festivities. Hopefully when I come on at naptime all of this will be null and void and we will have a live Haleigh. I hope, I hope, I hope.
 
Okay, yeah, with the length of the movies, discrepancy. lol.
Unless they are like my kids, watch a quarter of a movie, switch to a different one. But we'll probably never know, since this story will prolly change too.

Okay, time for birthday festivities. Hopefully when I come on at naptime all of this will be null and void and we will have a live Haleigh. I hope, I hope, I hope.

Enjoy and tell Tarrin Happy BD from us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Marie shares the same sentiment we do. ;)

Thanks to Angel for posting this in todays news.

Search For Haleigh : Grandmother Discouraged
Created: 2/18/2009 11:49:20 PM
Updated: 2/19/2009 12:30:49 AM

<snipped>
SATSUMA, FL -- As day nine of the search for Haleigh Cummings comes to a close, candles still burn, tips continue to come in, and family members say they are left with even more questions.
"Nobody can make up their mind on what she was wearing, who was at home with her, where anybody was that night. It's unbelievable!" says Marie Griffis, Haleigh's maternal grandmother. Griffis says it's hard to know what to believe. She just wants the truth. "There are just so many lies going around," says Griffis.

Investigators aren't saying much when answering questions about possible leads, including talk about examining a particular vehicle as evidence. "It was processed for evidence, but we're not going to get into that, but it was processed by FDLE," says Detective Dominick Pape with FDLE.


Grandmother Discouraged: Video
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/...storyid=131718

Article:
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/l...131718&catid=3
 
I have a problem with the pink shirt. She originally said Haleigh was sleeping in her pink Hanna Montana shirt. But in this interview,
http://staugustine.com/stories/021909/state_021909_028.shtml

However, Croslin said she found the shirt on Monday, when she was allowed back inside the doublewide mobile home for the first time since the disappearance. She was there to discuss the layout of the mobile home with investigators and was looking for the clothes Haleigh wore her last day at school.

She then saw the Hannah Montana shirt in a laundry pile by the back door.

"When I put her blanket on she had that shirt on," Croslin told the Times-Union on Wednesday.

Now, she also stated she had been doing laundry the night Haleigh "disappeared," placing her at the back door, at the washer and dryer, where the laundry pile is and where the pink shirt has been all along.


Every time this girl speaks, I get a headache.
I'm sure this has already been discussed. I've been elsewhere...LOL
 
I have a problem with the pink shirt. She originally said Haleigh was sleeping in her pink Hanna Montana shirt. But in this interview,
http://staugustine.com/stories/021909/state_021909_028.shtml

However, Croslin said she found the shirt on Monday, when she was allowed back inside the doublewide mobile home for the first time since the disappearance. She was there to discuss the layout of the mobile home with investigators and was looking for the clothes Haleigh wore her last day at school.

She then saw the Hannah Montana shirt in a laundry pile by the back door.

"When I put her blanket on she had that shirt on," Croslin told the Times-Union on Wednesday.

Now, she also stated she had been doing laundry the night Haleigh "disappeared," placing her at the back door, at the washer and dryer, where the laundry pile is and where the pink shirt has been all along.


Every time this girl speaks, I get a headache.
I'm sure this has already been discussed. I've been elsewhere...LOL
Weird, isn't it? I wonder what Grandma saw her wearing when she rode by and they were on the front porch eating dinner?
 
Call me crazy, but I dont see how you could be on the front porch eating dinner at 7, and have had a bath and watched 2 movies and be in bed at 8.
 
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