Misty Failed Polygraph Test

[SuziQ]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=144116&provider=top Brother and Wife now being questioned by poilce.

Misty is getting desperate...good. BBM.

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Tommy Croslin says he has no idea why his sister is accusing him in Haleigh's disappearance. He told First Coast News Misty is trying to pass blame onto someone.

Despite the accusations, he says he stands by his sister and doesn't think she had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance.

He is now being questioned by detectives. This is the first time he has been brought in for questioning in about a month.

 

[Steely Dan]

Link to Misty's Polygraph session video

http://www.wftv.com/video/20601690/index.html

Thanks a lot of interesting stuff there.

I just watched the video too..and her smirkiness is driving me absolutely crazy. I totally agree. She seems to be taking this really lightly.

I also think it's strange how she mentioned her suspicions about her brother and said "I have no idea if he killed Haleigh" without even being asked.

I'm beginning to think she's kinda sympathetic. My theory is that her brother took Hayleigh, she knows it, he's threatened her and members of her family if she tells, she's scared. She may know her brother would be locked up and she'd be fairly safe but if she thinks her psycho cousin was involved but has no proof he'd still be out and able to harm her or everyone. She does say at one point that if Tommy was involved then Joe was involved too.

Her tears come across as genuine to me. She seems to be very upset about the whole situation. It seems like in the interview she keeps telling them that her brother did it without coming right out and saying he did it. She keeps mentioning stuff about the red van and how he sold it and how people reported seeing a red van, the scratches and weeds in the grille etc... She seems to be attempting to steer the police in his direction very hard. It appears to me, at least, that the things she's deceptive on fit my theory. However, at the very end she's asked if she's been threatened and it cuts off before they say anything about possible deception. It could be no verbal threats were made to her and she's just scared because she knows him very well.

IMO, she's hoping the police will find enough evidence on him themselves and she won't need to testify. I also think she's afraid that if Ron finds out that he'd kill her brother and then Ron would be in prison. I think at this point too that not only would Ron kill her brother but he'd go ballistic on her too.

I think she's put herself between a rock and a hard place and she's not dealing with it well. She is 17 and I don't know how I would have handled the whole thing when I was 17.

The latest stuff from the police is to pressure her to let them know everything. They probably are 99% sure but have nothing to prove it.

I'm usually one of the worst at telling when people are lying but for some reason but I'm pretty sure I'm right about what's going on here.

 

[bisaillon]

A few things jump out at me about this interview/test:
When asked how she knew Haliegh...she said "I know her cause she's my husband's daughter and I don't know..just"..

I thought in the beginning (on the 911 call she calls her "our daughter"..) She also stated many times that she felt she was Haliegh's mom and that Haliegh loved her like a mom...but she doesn't claim her as step daughter in this interview. Maybe nothing to that but that just jumped out at me...

Second thing that jumped out at me is that she didn't know the date Haliegh went missing..How could you ever forget that date?

I also noticed that to me anyway..she sounded annoyed when she said they Haliegh ready for school that morning but they didn't have the clothes she wanted to wear so they took her to waleka (sp?) to get them?..where is that at?

She washes Haliegh's blanket cause it smelled like pee...but don't wash the sheets too?

Also when she goes into this story again...she has zero emotion..not any sort of reliving a horrible kidnapping...and I don't know why, but that bothered me. She acts like she's detached from the whole thing now.

Interesting to me too was how she remembers the exact time Ron got home...3:24 am and the exact time they called the cops 3:27 am...but she don't remember the date, nor the exact time she woke up...she says it was 3 "something" and she don't know why she woke up?

I was amazed she said she thinks Crystal might be suspect in her mind cause she didn't wanna pay child support...wow and said she keeps hearing stuff about her bother.. and how "people" said it was a red truck that came and got Haliegh and her brother had one and sold it???...What "PEOPLE" is she referring to?

I just feel like she is willing to throw accusations around to take some of the focus off of herself and sorry but this just sounds selfish to me."It's just something else to look at"...lol.
Of course it is dear.Then she talks about Joe and Tommy...how they have issues too.
She mentions the cops think her brother had something to do with it??..

She just shouts out to the world that her cousin and brother messed with her when she was child..I don't know but people I've known who were truly molested as a child don't really care to talk about it so openly.
The only time she gets upset is when he says there's things you're not telling me" She really starts crying when she talks about how horrible her childhood was..Again..selfish in my eyes..reminds me of KC.

What about how horrible Haleigh has it?

She don't think Haliegh is dead..like Kc claimed Caylee was alive...just reminded me of that.

She thinks Crystal , her bro or her cousin is involved in this..Just the Anthony Case..KC is trying to imply Jesse and Tony and some other guy too.

She's stumbling around about Joe leaving town, saying "sorry" I got the hiccups"...she has the fastest case of hiccups I've ever seen..one . lol

When she goes to be hypnotized...she claims "I remember every little detail of that night"..Well she couldn't remember the date or the exact time just woke up for no reason.

She tells the guy that she knows nothing about hypnosis except that they can make her say something she didn't??????...interesting.

And by the way..didn't they just say on Nancy Grace that she didn't do the hypnosis or did I hear wrong?

Okay that's just my thoughts on this ...

 

[Kat]

I bet you LE knows that that brick was there from when he (the previous resident) lived there. Unless I missed him stating it wasn't.

Seriously. This crime is not about some conspiracy of mom, gma on either side, drug revenge, pedophile, ex-gf's etc. It's about a 17 year old coming off a bender and dealing with a kid that wet the bed. Two thirds of the cases at WS, of child abuse and child abuse leading to death, has to do with kids soiling their pants. I find it very believable that Misty is involved and possibly Ron. Stats back me up on this.

The most dangerous person to any child is their caretakers. Mothers, fathers, their significant others or others designated as caretakers. Sad but the absolute truth.

You don't have to convince me Suzi. That is why I have staunchly refused to develop a theory in this case.

OT~ there is another child who's case I am following (Hasanni) and his foster parents were arrested today. When the reported abduction of him first surfaced, we had a few that (as always) that explore rataliation theories: drugs..etc.. Sometimes, we overanalyze and get paralyzed in such a way we can't clearly see the facts of the case. 9 times out of 10~ it's straightfoward, in that the last person known to be with the child, or the parent(s) of the child are responsible. This year alone I have read story after story of parents murdering their child. It can get heartsickening.

 

[Steely Dan]

A few things jump out at me about this interview/test:
When asked how she knew Haliegh...she said "I know her cause she's my husband's daughter and I don't know..just"..

I thought in the beginning (on the 911 call she calls her "our daughter"..) She also stated many times that she felt she was Haliegh's mom and that Haliegh loved her like a mom...but she doesn't claim her as step daughter in this interview. Maybe nothing to that but that just jumped out at me...

Second thing that jumped out at me is that she didn't know the date Haliegh went missing..How could you ever forget that date?

I also noticed that to me anyway..she sounded annoyed when she said they Haliegh ready for school that morning but they didn't have the clothes she wanted to wear so they took her to waleka (sp?) to get them?..where is that at?

She washes Haliegh's blanket cause it smelled like pee...but don't wash the sheets too?

Also when she goes into this story again...she has zero emotion..not any sort of reliving a horrible kidnapping...and I don't know why, but that bothered me. She acts like she detached from the whole thing now.

Interesting to me too was how she remembers the exact time Ron got home...3:24 am and the exact time they called the cops 3:27 am...but she don't remember the date, nor the exact time she woke up...she says it was 3 "something" and she don't know why she woke up?

I was amazed she said she thinks Crystal might be suspect in her mind cause she didn't wanna pay child support...wow and said she keeps hearing stuff about her bother.. and how "people" said it was a red truck that came and got Haliegh and her brother had one and sold it???...What "PEOPLE" is she referring to?

I just feel like she is willing to throw accusations around to take some of the focus off of herself and sorry but this just sounds selfish to me."It's just something else to look at"...lol.
Of course it is dear.Then she talks about Joe and Tommy...how they have issues too.
She mentions the cops think her brother had something to do with it??..

She just shouts out to the world that her cousin and brother messed with her when she was child..I don't know but people I've known who were truly molested as a child don't really care to talk about it so openly.
The only time she gets upset is when he says there's things you're not telling me" She really starts crying when she talks about how horrible her childhood was..Again..selfish in my eyes..reminds me of KC.

What about how horrible Haleigh has it?

She don't think Haliegh is dead..like Kc claimed Caylee was alive...just reminded me of that.

She thinks Crystal , her bro or her cousin is involved in this..Just the Anthony Case..KC is trying to imply Jesse and Tony and some other guy too.

She's stumbling around about Joe leaving town, saying "sorry" I got the hiccups"...she has the fastest case of hiccups I've ever seen..one . lol

When she goes to be hypnotized...she claims "I remember every little detail of that night"..Well she couldn't remember the date or the exact time just woke up for no reason.

She tells the guy that she knows nothing about hypnosis except that they can make her say something she didn't??????...interesting.

And by the way..didn't they just say on Nancy Grace that she didn't do the hypnosis or did I hear wrong?

Okay that's just my thoughts on this ...

I don't think her statement about how she knows Hayleigh is that surprising. I mean she knows her as Ron's daughter but she might have thought they were asking for more.

I believe that the trouble on the date thing has to do with it covering two dates. She went to bed on one day and woke up the next day early.

Ron's coming home may be easier to remember because of the 911 call. I do agree that she's being deceptive in this area.

Talking openly about molestation may be just another way to push the cops in the direction of her brother.

:cow:

 

[Whisperer]

Ron and M are both liars. I can't think of anything R said that I know is true and the same goes for Misty.

 

[sttct]

I think the only things that she's lying about is what exactly happened that night as far as what she was doing. She didn't go to bed at 10pm. Seriously girl? She either wasn't there or let people in that shouldn't be there. I really think it was someone in her family.

 

[evelyn24]

The idea she's lying to protect someone in her family is ludicrous because she keeps trying to throw them under the bus. I think if she's lying to protect someone it's herself or Ron, NOT someone in her family.

 

[Gracenote]

What do you think about the story she told of the gun being stolen and she found it in a ditch? Why would someone steal a gun then throw it away? Was it used? Wish it could have been fingerprinted. Is her story even true?

 

[Law_girl41]

What do you think about the story she told of the gun being stolen and she found it in a ditch? Why would someone steal a gun then throw it away? Was it used? Wish it could have been fingerprinted. Is her story even true?

That question has been on my mind since the other day! Wondering whats up with that scenerio. It doesnt make logical sense for a gun to be hidden like that,.....unless it was staged like that for a reason? My other concern about that gun is...like yours was it fired and did LE do testing and keep it?

 

[Whisperer]

Wonder how many guns RC has and if any are legal?

 

[Gracenote]

I can't remember, was the stolen gun event before or after Haleigh went missing?

Someone could
*hide a gun to avoid being threatened or shot by it
*hide a gun that was used in the commission of a crime (didn't do a very good job in this case)
*pretend a gun had been stolen in order to implicate someone else in a crime, then pretend to find it
*actually steal a gun then hide it close by for later use but leave town without retrieving it.

That's all I can think of.

 

[kamky]

Thanks a lot of interesting stuff there.

I'm beginning to think she's kinda sympathetic. My theory is that her brother took Hayleigh, she knows it, he's threatened her and members of her family if she tells, she's scared. She may know her brother would be locked up and she'd be fairly safe but if she thinks her psycho cousin was involved but has no proof he'd still be out and able to harm her or everyone. She does say at one point that if Tommy was involved then Joe was involved too.

Her tears come across as genuine to me. She seems to be very upset about the whole situation. It seems like in the interview she keeps telling them that her brother did it without coming right out and saying he did it. She keeps mentioning stuff about the red van and how he sold it and how people reported seeing a red van, the scratches and weeds in the grille etc... She seems to be attempting to steer the police in his direction very hard. It appears to me, at least, that the things she's deceptive on fit my theory. However, at the very end she's asked if she's been threatened and it cuts off before they say anything about possible deception. It could be no verbal threats were made to her and she's just scared because she knows him very well.

IMO, she's hoping the police will find enough evidence on him themselves and she won't need to testify. I also think she's afraid that if Ron finds out that he'd kill her brother and then Ron would be in prison. I think at this point too that not only would Ron kill her brother but he'd go ballistic on her too.

I think she's put herself between a rock and a hard place and she's not dealing with it well. She is 17 and I don't know how I would have handled the whole thing when I was 17.

The latest stuff from the police is to pressure her to let them know everything. They probably are 99% sure but have nothing to prove it.

I'm usually one of the worst at telling when people are lying but for some reason but I'm pretty sure I'm right about what's going on here.

I listened to the Polygraph and Hypnosis videos and was very surprised to find that she came across as credible to me, at least on the Poly video. based on so many comments, I expected differently. LE had better find and analyze that red pickup truck pronto, if they haven't already.

I was in a group that was hypnotized once. I was unable to go under hypnosis, which irritated the heck out of me because I really wanted to see what it felt like. I think I was trying too hard to go under and this distracted me from being able to do it.

 

[kamky]

What do you think about the story she told of the gun being stolen and she found it in a ditch? Why would someone steal a gun then throw it away? Was it used? Wish it could have been fingerprinted. Is her story even true?

bbm

To quickly hide it with the expectation of sneaking back and retrieving it later. It was found by Misty before the person could go back and get it.

 

[faefrost]

Well certainly most likely the child was not murdered there. Let's hope she wasn't murdered at all. But I am saying that Misty is not sophistocated enough to think about putting a cinder block to prop open the door. That block is evidence that someone brought it with them IMO unless you susbscribe to the theory that Ron is involved as well.

The block is evidence that someone propped the door open so they could get back inside.

You say you are always right on these things based on your world experience. Well sorry, my world experience has given me ALOT of experience being lied to about the most absurd things by drugged out teenagers. Typically in tragic circumstances. And guess what. Every single thing I see from Misty is a lying teenage drug abuser. Every single word and gesture.

LE does not neceserily think that Misty murdered Hayliegh. I get the impression they rather clearly think that she was not in the home at all. She wandered off in somewhere in search of a good time. Now the question is was Hayleigh left alone while she did this (not likely as LE seems fairly certain it was not a stranger abduction) or did Misty have her with her, and is lying to cover that fact?

It does not matter if you or anyone else think she is guilty or capable of a horrific crime. The key questions are the truth about what she saw that night, where she was that night and what she did. Sofar by all accounts she has been grossly untruthful on these subjects. It isn't just a matter of her failing the lie detector test, or the voice stress test, or the previous lie detector test, or even simply looking like she is lying in public and on camera. There are alot of little evidentiary details that simply do not match her story or stories. Yes indivdually they may seem trivial or almost pointless. But in agregate they leave a very clear conclusion that the person telling the story is not being truthful. The supposed crime scene does not match the story of the last person to see or have contact with the victim. The mismatches are in numerous small details and points of evidence. This raises HUGE red flags.

 

[laura08]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=144137&provider=topPUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- A search is underway this morning for new clues about Haleigh Cummings' disappearance.

EquuSearch and Putnam County officials are out again after a comment by Misty Croslin-Cummings revealed a possible new detail. According to the Gainesville Sun, Croslin-Cummings mentioned something about a fake rose and that was enough for EquuSearch to begin a new hunt for clues.

First Coast News has learned that EquuSearch is leading the operation and Putnam County officials are monitoring.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/...itle=New-search-for-Haleigh-may-come-Saturday A comment Misty Croslin-Cummings allegedly made about investigators needing to double-check a patch of ground marked by a single plastic rose in their search for her missing stepdaughter, Haleigh Cummings, has motivated a private firm to begin scouring the area this morning.

 

[Steely Dan]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=144137&provider=topPUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- A search is underway this morning for new clues about Haleigh Cummings' disappearance.

EquuSearch and Putnam County officials are out again after a comment by Misty Croslin-Cummings revealed a possible new detail. According to the Gainesville Sun, Croslin-Cummings mentioned something about a fake rose and that was enough for EquuSearch to begin a new hunt for clues.

First Coast News has learned that EquuSearch is leading the operation and Putnam County officials are monitoring.

:waitasec: It'll be interesting to find out what that has to do with it and how TES believes it's a lead.

 

[laura08]

:waitasec: It'll be interesting to find out what that has to do with it and how TES believes it's a lead.

I agree. Seeing the picture of the rose and the location, looks like it is in a wooded area so Misty says she has said everything she knows wonder why she didn't tell police that a long time ago she forgot that peice along with alot of other information. I think Misty knows Alot more than she is saying, and is getting ready to start saying more on where Haleigh is etc.

 

[Steely Dan]

I agree. Seeing the picture of the rose and the location, looks like it is in a wooded area. I think Misty knows Alot more than she is saying, and is getting ready to start saying more on where Haleigh is etc.

I didn't see the rose in that article. Am I missing it or is it on another link?

 

[bogeygal]

I didn't see it in the first article either. It's in the bottom one gainesville something news.

It's in post 193 above. photo of rose in bottom article. (Could be just a photo of a rose in woods from the paper? Or is this the actual rose?)