MN - Alex Pretti dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

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All my opinion; Yes, absolutely... be "good" and you're safe, if you get shot 10-12 times in the back by the authorities you were "bad" and asked for it. IMO That's the message between the lines. Some take it on board and who can blame them I suppose as the fear grows...that's how these things work..moo much like a threatening abusive relationship but on the macro scale. Jmo
Its very similar to domestic abuse too
- As long as the woman has the dinner ready on time she doesn't get beaten

It's a look at what You Made ME do - if you only behaved I would not of had to kill you.

VICTIM BLAMING
SOSOSO TWISTED
JMO
 
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Its very similar to domestic abuse too
- As long as the woman has the dinner ready on time she doesn't get beaten

It's a look at what You Made ME do - if you only behaved I would not of had to kill you.

VICTIM BLAMING
SOSOSO TWISTED
JMO
But then the abuser spilled a glass of water at the dinner table and loses his temper over it, so didn't matter she got dinner on time anyway. Beatings will happen.

jmopinion
 
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what he was doing, was purposefully bringing a gun to a dangerous fed op repeatedly,
He was legally carrying a holstered gun. What are you talking about?


and provoking and inviting harm onto himself, because he felt a sense of martyrdom. he rehearsed violating laws and putting the public in danger, until he finally got what he wanted.
Victim blaming at it's finest. The psychological condition of the two agents who decided to fire ten bullets in the back of a disarmed man, pinned to the ground, should be of more interest that the mental condition of Alex Pretti.

MOO 🐄
 
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I watched this yesterday and have been thinking about it. This is something that I believe your friend was saying about their position on the shooting. I think it's helpful to hear all sides on this because we are seeing it from the perspective after the fact, as we do most of the cases we discuss.

I know that there are many on this thread that won't agree with this man, Minnesota State Senator Walter Hudson, but I do think that we can agree that we are very disturbed by Alex's death.

Screenshots from footage taken on the morning of the shooting.

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My opinion... the totality of the situation will be considered. Who can predict their behavior in an escalated situation? I know war vets, combat vets, LE both active and retired. Who can say how a person will respond if they feel their life is on the line?

If an officer thinks a man pinned to the ground is a threat putting his life on the line, he should get therapy ASAP, being way too mentally unstable for his job.

MOO 🐄
 
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Calling Mr. Pretti a journalist doesn’t magically convert illegal obstruction into reporting. IMO
I asked it multiple times before: what actually Alex Pretty was obstructing?
 
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If an officer thinks a man pinned to the ground is a threat putting his life on the line, he should get therapy ASAP, being way too mentally unstable for his job.

MOO 🐄
Should probably visit an optometrist as well, since the agent apparently didn't see that Alex was pinned to the ground, completely helpless, with several other agents holding him down/punching him.

moo
 
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I asked it multiple times before: what actually Alex Pretty was obstructing?
I, too, really wish someone would tell me. It's been mentioned soooo many times I clearly must have missed something in the videos.

Hardly a difficult question, one wouldn't have thought. Someone simply needs to isolate the specific parts in the videos where he was unlawfully obstructing Feral Agents.

I mean, even if he was, it wouldn't require his summary execution in the street but at least these people could point to the correctness of their claims.
 
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Should probably visit an optometrist as well, since the agent apparently didn't see that Alex was pinned to the ground, completely helpless, with several other agents holding him down/punching him.

moo
Eyesight sufficient to find the sights on his Glock, though, unfortunately!
 
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My hypothesis on Jan 24, 2026, Alex Pretti shooting: suicide by proxy (suicide by cop) + volenti non fit injuria. Studies show 10-36% of OIS involve SBC (Mohandie 2009; Hutson 1998).Key points:
  • Constructive intent: Brought 9mm + extra mags to armed fed confrontation, creating lethal zone. Returned post-Jan 13 with more ammo—why if no intent to harm self/others?
  • Fog of uncertainty: Armed resistance forced "plus one" threat assumption per CBP training. Continued struggle post-disarmament sustained fear.
  • Rehearsal: Jan 13 videos show erratic behavior (expletives, spitting, escape w/o drawing)—desensitized him for Jan 24 escalation. Ambivalence common in SBC.
  • Mindset: 2024 VA tribute choked up on "sacrifice for freedom"—suggests openness to martyrdom.
Reframes as Pretti's agency/"original sin," not just agent failure. Aligns w/ Graham v. Connor reasonableness amid uncertainty. Not victim-blaming if orchestrated via attempts.No direct proof beyond public info. Suggest psych autopsy/expert review of comms/records.
This is one of the most ridiculous statements I’ve seen in a long time, and that’s saying a lot. MOO
 
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what he was doing, was purposefully bringing a gun to a dangerous fed op repeatedly, and provoking and inviting harm onto himself, because he felt a sense of martyrdom. he rehearsed violating laws and putting the public in danger, until he finally got what he wanted.
I am assuming this is your opinioin since you have provided no links to support this statement of fact.
 
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Could someone please explain to me, why were the agents shoving the woman and what is the justification for that?
 
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I asked it multiple times before: what actually Alex Pretty was obstructing?
They can't answer. I wonder why. Jmo
 
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How is this not a fascist state? Where are all the "patriots" so concerned about our constitutional rights being stripped away? MSN and The Tech Arsenal That ICE Has Deployed in Minneapolis

The powerful tools in ICE’s arsenal to track suspects — and protesters

"A Minnesota woman observing ICE agents in her car was cornered on one-way streets. An agent approached, called her by name—citing facial recognition. Days later, her Global Entry and TSA privileges were revoked, with no explanation."​

 
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Who gets to carry guns

 
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IMO only The First Amendment protects speech, not obstruction, interference, or physical conduct. You don’t get immunity for actions just because you’re mad, filming, or calling it a protest.
Well said!
 
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FBI takes lead in investigating Alex Pretti killing, CBS reports

Trump Calls Alex Pretti An ‘Agitator’ And ‘Insurrectionist’


Noem says her response to Pretti shooting may have been wrong

“We were being relayed information from on the ground from CBP agents and officers that were there,” Noem said. “We were using the best information we had at the time.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/29/noem-pretti-shooting-00756830

So Noem was relaying information from CBP agents who were at the scene of the killing of AP and she relied upon their now debunked claims about the circumstances of said shooting. Can we assume this also means their versions of events are less than credible to those leading the investigation into their actions?
 
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FBI takes lead in investigating Alex Pretti killing, CBS reports

Trump Calls Alex Pretti An ‘Agitator’ And ‘Insurrectionist’


Noem says her response to Pretti shooting may have been wrong

“We were being relayed information from on the ground from CBP agents and officers that were there,” Noem said. “We were using the best information we had at the time.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/29/noem-pretti-shooting-00756830

So Noem was relaying information from CBP agents who were at the scene of the killing of AP and she relied upon their now debunked claims about the circumstances of said shooting. Can we assume this also means their versions of events are less than credible to those leading the investigation into their actions?
"Self-serving" is how I would describe the entire lot.
 

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