MN - Alex Pretti dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

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This comment is about the two federal agent shootings in Minnapolis, Renee Good and Alex Pretti, from the leader of the United States in an interview Jan 27:

"Bottom line, it was terrible. Both of them were terrible; the other was terrible too," Trump said. "And I'm not sure about his parents, but I know her parents were big Trump fans, makes me feel bad anyway. But I guess you could say even worse, they were tremendous Trump people, Trump fans."

It may be off-topic but that is just completely and utterly insane in every conceivable way!
 
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Thousands of Italians have signed petitions to demand that ICE be barred from entry since it was first reported that they would be travelling with the US delegation. On Tuesday, ICE confirmed it would send a branch with the diplomatic security service to protect top officials....

Italian officials have raised concerns over the potential safety risk of ICE agents being used after the death of intensive care nurse Alex Pretti, who was fatally shot in Minneapolis on 24 January.



It's so insane US is thinking of sending ICE abroad, for security no less!!! Incompetent, irresponsible, untrained, amoral. No wonder the Italians are objecting!!!! Stay OUT!
 
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<modsnip: Quoted post was removed> ... The community is angry, organically, because people care about their neighborhood and state. imo

And, no, that doesn't mean they harbor the "worst of the worst" criminals that ICE was supposed to apprehend. NOBODY wants dangerous criminials as neighbors. Nobody would protest the deportation of dangerous criminals and convicts. imo

But ICE is not targeting only the criminals (which MN is cooperating with) but grabbing anyone they can get, and harming the residents and neighborhoods in the process. imo

jmopinion
 
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What ICE is doing in Minnesota, bbm:


The 2-year-old’s detention is part of an accelerating trend of what Vaynerman describes as ICE agents sending children and adults with legal immigration status out of state to avoid dealing with accountability from the federal court system. ...

“Minnesotans are being unlawfully detained and are then being quickly marshalled across state lines by the government,” Vaynerman said. “They’re doing that in order to evade the reach of the federal district court in Minnesota.”

“This is an intentional, calculated effort,” Vaynerman added, “Especially where folks are already being denied the access of counsel before they're placed on the planes.”

(in another situation) the entire family was put on a flight to Texas within a few hours despite a federal judge ruling that the family be kept in Minnesota.

“They flood the zone with all these arrests,” Clark said. “All the tactics towards protesters, and then people are just missing the biggest thing (which) is this conveyor belt where they’re just arresting people without legal basis, and moving them,” Clark said.


more at the link: https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/...ldren-to-texas-faster-than-courts-can-respond

BTW, these kids. Where are they sent, and is there the chance to collect and send them clothes, toys, books? It just hit me how rapidly they are developing and how much they need every day. Have we as the citizens been asking ourselves enough about them?
 
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Something else that SC mentioned that makes me question the efficiency of CPB and ICE agents’ training is why in both the case of Goode and Pretti did the agents not warn their partners and team members before they fired their guns? I noticed in both recordings agents spring back in surprise because they did not expect to hear gunfire, let alone have it aimed in theirs and the victim’s directions. In Goode’s case, one agent still had his body pressed against her vehicle and window when a bullet sadly was shot the through the windshield. In Pretti’s recordings, we can see how the agents’ are practically piled on top of him. Wasn’t there a risk that a bullet could strike one of their partners and why not mitigate or reduce it by calling out before shooting their guns eleven times between them?

Why not warn the subject to hopefully increase their compliance or calm and deescalate the situation and avoid further violence? Why not give Pretti clear and loud directions, like put his hands flat on the ground, or stay still while the remove the weapon from his person, so that all that chaos they have more control, clarity and coordination between them as a team and with Pretti? Why didn’t they announce what their intentions were? In addition to heinously abusing and beating him, it remained unclear whether they also expected to detain him after their unlawful assault. As law enforcement officials, they put themselves at risk for harm just by neglecting to inspect, question and check Pretti, or anyone LE intends to detain or put their hands on in any form. As one of their instructors mentioned, it is very difficult to predict how a stranger will respond to perceived violence, assaults, aggressions or threats. For that reason, pushing someone to the ground, or repeatedly pepper spraying, kicking or hitting them before an officer has ruled out that they have a gun or knife or other deadly weapon on them is incredibly dangerous and antithetical to de-escalation tactics that seeks to avoid or soothe conflict, not provokes or worsen them.

JMO/MOO
 
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And, just to repeat, ICE deployed 2000 and then sent another 1000 after an agent killed Renee, for a total of 3000 agents in the surge. But they also want local LE to help them? Why can't thousands of agents handle the job?

jmopinion

p.s. Minnesota Department of Corrections does cooperate with ICE by turning over convicted criminals who are here illegally. ICE does not need to hunt them down, but pick them up from DOC. News Releases / Department of Corrections
 
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How to de-escalate in Minneapolis : Consider This from NPR


I think each of us as the citizen has to understand how we can help:

- the political blames I leave to politicians because my political posts will only contribute to the general internet noise and are useless
- I have my citizenship documents on me
- to check how my representatives are voting; the budget, including DHS, is in the Senate. I hope I can rely on my Senators although they did surprise me a couple of times. But checking how our state Congressmen and Senators vote, on all subjects, never hurts, IMO
- to watch for the events in Minnesota daily
- the last thought: about the kids in ICE detention. Let us all think of how we can help them.
 
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Can you show me in any of those documents where he wasn’t permitted to be carrying it on a public sidewalk and street in MN?
ESPECIALLY since he was licensed to carry a gun in Minnesota.
 
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This is her opinion, speculation, boosted by a guy on social media (Webb). Saying agents "decided to just scatter to save themselves" is guesswork. IMO
 
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This is her opinion, speculation, boosted by a guy on social media (Webb). Saying agents "decided to just scatter to save themselves" is guesswork. IMO
She is a witness so it is not just an opinion.
 
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This is her opinion, speculation, boosted by a guy on social media (Webb). Saying agents "decided to just scatter to save themselves" is guesswork. IMO
Speculation? She’s an eyewitness. And a physician who is at the scene corroborated that ICE seemed to be counting bullet wounds. I’m unsure what part of her statements could be considered ‘speculation’.
 
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This is her opinion, speculation, boosted by a guy on social media (Webb). Saying agents "decided to just scatter to save themselves" is guesswork. IMO
Well, she was there, feet away from the scene, so I'd say it's a highly educated guesswork. Supported by the fact that the agents did not render the first aid to Alex and prevented a physician present on the scene from doing so.

MOO 🐄
 
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This is not a game. It has been made quite clear by many, how wrong this is. This is about immigration and immigrants. And brutality. This is about a 2 year old little girl and 5 year old boy stuck in a prison in Texas. This is about arresting the wrong person, in his shorts in freezing temperatures to only go oops down the road our mistake. This about citizens exercising their rights under extreme risk to body and soul. This is about overkill with bullets with 2 citizens now dead. Where is your compassion? jmo
 
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This is not a game. It has been made quite clear by many, how wrong this is. This is about immigration and immigrants. And brutality. This is about a 2 year old little girl and 5 year old boy stuck in a prison in Texas. This is about arresting the wrong person, in his shorts in freezing temperatures to only go oops down the road our mistake. This about citizens exercising their rights under extreme risk to body and soul. This is about overkill with bullets with 2 citizens now dead. Where is your compassion? jmo

It's clearly nowhere to be seen in some people.
They are the minority though IMO, thankfully.
 
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Also according to a top firearms instructor in MN and the CBP union rep they have the best training, especially in de-escalation and disarming tactics in the country. Their instructors wanted to prepare them to neutralize almost any threat considering they were expected to detain and arrest very violent and aggressive criminals. However, as their trainer pointed out they did not even apply the basic disarming protocol he taught them by not securing Alex’s hands. Seeing as how now they see him as a threat, doing so would keep him from reaching for his weapon and help facilitate the agent’s the gray shirt removal of the gun. Just that little tactic alone may have helped saved Alex’s life as it helped diffuse the tension or stress upon completion.

Furthermore, when the agent in the grey shirt removed the gun from Alex’s person it did not appear in the video that he announced it to his teammates before he runs off. He doesn’t even seem to come back when he hears the guns go off or try to tell them to stop because Alex was disarmed. 5 seconds could have saved Alex’s life or prevented further him suffering from bodily harm if he had just told the rest of the CPB he had the gun. Instead it took his teammates 79 more seconds to realize that their victim was not even holding the firearm but that it was in the possession of their colleague taking pictures of it in the car. According to they were supposed to be trained to be the best of the best because they are expected to capture and arrest some of the most brutal and prolific. offenders in America. Per Joe Biden They were supposed to be able to discern when to de-escalate violence so that could spare a life instead of ending one. And yet, none of those expectations are reflected in their actions towards Alex and the two women that day or in their lack of coordination and communication skills and inability to apply the skills their instructors. Alex still died brutally while fighting for the recognition and protection of the humanity and rights of others.

He deserved better, he and his family deserve justice and those agents and their leadership should be made to face to the public as they are held accountable for the abuse, disappearances, deaths and physical, emotional and psychological trauma their victims have endured.






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How to de-escalate in Minneapolis : Consider This from NPR


This supports the information I read from experienced Law Enforcement Officers and Weapons trainers who all say that this group is untrained, undisciplined, and unfit to be carrying lethal weapons.
 
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If we can call a review an investigation. (as per this post)

Amen
 
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Speculation? She’s an eyewitness. And a physician who is at the scene corroborated that ICE seemed to be counting bullet wounds. I’m unsure what part of her statements could be considered ‘speculation’.
I'm splitting the hairs on this one. She is a witness and some of her comments are her opinion/interpretation of what she witnessed. Still powerful stuff IMO not worth getting mired in semantics over it.
 
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Protecting criminal and other illegal immigrants? How is that their job?
How do you know they are criminals and/or "illegal" immigrants?
 
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And, no, that doesn't mean they harbor the "worst of the worst" criminals that ICE was supposed to apprehend. NOBODY wants dangerous criminials as neighbors. Nobody would protest the deportation of dangerous criminals and convicts. imo
I do not want anyone to be illegally deported. Everyone is entitled to due process. Even criminals are entitled to due process.
 
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Speculation? She’s an eyewitness. And a physician who is at the scene corroborated that ICE seemed to be counting bullet wounds. I’m unsure what part of her statements are ‘speculation’.


This is not a game. It has been made quite clear by many, how wrong this is. This is about immigration and immigrants. And brutality. This is about a 2 year old little girl and 5 year old boy stuck in a prison in Texas. This is about arresting the wrong person, in his shorts in freezing temperatures to only go oops down the road our mistake. This about citizens exercising their rights under extreme risk to body and soul. This is about overkill with bullets with 2 citizens now dead. Where is your compassion? jmo

I'm sure it was traumatizing, especially while standing so close and recording during a potentially dangerous, active federal operation. IMO, she can say agents "scattered to save themselves" but how could she possibly know that as fact? IMO She doesn't. She had no access to agent radio traffic, orders, or real time threat info. Of course she doesn't. Situations like this are potentially dangerous for bystanders who do not know who the target is, what threat agents are responding to, or how quickly circumstances can change, as they sadly did here. And I'm not surprised (I'm taking your word that someone was denied access) they did not allow a random, unvetted person to enter a active crime scene to render first aid. IMO

EDIT: apologies @kuromiiiilove and @witchway I'm not sure what happened. I did not mean to quote the forum members above. I was responding to another member.
 
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