MN - Alex Pretti dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

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Good. Appropriate decision. IMO
Till it's investigation by real investigators not facist supporters, time. It is not over, this is still America and the evidence is horrifically clear to all. The war veterans of America ICU nurse was used as target practice, his back, while clearly has been killed at least by the first or 2nd. USA of people who do not hate or resent whatever they personally resent are rising up. Unfortunately, those that are the problem and not the solution benefit as well when their time comes. Not deserved of course, but the America of the rest of us do not cheer on Mr. Pretti's death nor Ms. Good's. The teeny tiny minority here is showing that they def. do. IMO
 
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The administration is opposing a judges order to prevent them from destroying evidence in Alex Pretti’s case.

Now why would they do that, especially if this was a justified shooting? MOO
 
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On a FB of my friend, a group of US-born FB users was discussing what documents should they get/have. (Not everyone in the country has a passport. People were scared.) In my state, there is an enhanced driver’s license that we got to drive to Canada. It is a valid proof of citizenship which is currently available in five states: MN, MI, WA, NY and VT. Ohio is going to introduce it, too. MOO, the whole country should probably use them.

But tbh, I would be concerned about the need to take passport everywhere. Passports may get lost or stolen.

Profiling is a true problem. How is ICE in Minnesota going to explain this?


Three of the four natives arrested by ICE in Minnesota have not been yet accounted for.

They are Natives. They can’t be deported. And they are unhoused, and might be sick. Where are they?

With the Natives, we have one more obvious problem. They have dual citizenship: tribal and the US one. Tribal cards I have seen, they are small. Would that be enough, or do Natives have to get passports now?
My state also has a "Real ID" that can get you on a plane and (as listed) even get you entrance into a nuclear facility. That is not acceptable if ICE stopped my car in my state. I would need a passport or a birth certificate, maybe both.

Concerning those Native Americans taken, the Chief was interviewed and told by DHS/(ICE) in a document, if he wanted more than just the first names of the tribal members being held, his tribe would have to agree and sign off on ICE/DHS having complete access to reservation land, to come and go as they see fit. I see that as blackmail using human lives to force them to give up their tribal rights to their land as they're holding First Nation Citizens in captivity.
MO...disgraceful and illegal.
AJMO
 
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If this is ICE protocol, it's completely wrong and broken. They can't be trusted with guns, let's have them carry tasers instead, and take off their masks, wear name badges with ID numbers.

IMO, no LE agency, by sideline request default, let's random, unvetted civilians into an active crime scene, especially right after a shooting. That's scene security, not misconduct. You don't hand control of a volatile scene to unknown people. I suspect you wouldn't like tasers being deployed either, and masks off, with your name badge with ID # idea on doesn't turn live operations into meet-and-greets. IMO
 
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My state also has a "Real ID" that can get you on a plane and (as listed) even get you entrance into a nuclear facility. That is not acceptable if ICE stopped my car in my state. I would need a passport or a birth certificate, maybe both.

Concerning those Native Americans taken, the Chief was interviewed and told by DHS/(ICE) in a document, if he wanted more than just the first names of the tribal members being held, his tribe would have to agree and sign off on ICE/DHS having complete access to reservation land, to come and go as they see fit. I see that as blackmail using human lives to force them to give up their tribal rights to their land as they're holding First Nation Citizens in captivity.
MO...disgraceful and illegal.
AJMO
When you get your driver's license don't you have to present either a passport or birth certificate? It's necessary in our state, weird they (ICE) wouldn't see a driver's license as proper ID.
 
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Perhaps this video included in this article may be helpful. It appears to align with the timeline or sequence of events that SC shared during her interview posted above. IMO, it is also consistent with the things she had recalled so far in public regarding what occurred immediately after Pretti’s tragic shooting.

JMO/MOO

 
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another source for video of agent clapping after Alex Pretti was killed.
 
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Till it's investigation by real investigators not facist supporters, time. It is not over, this is still America and the evidence is horrifically clear to all. The war veterans of America ICU nurse was used as target practice, his back, while clearly has been killed at least by the first or 2nd. USA of people who do not hate or resent whatever they personally resent are rising up. Unfortunately, those that are the problem and not the solution benefit as well when their time comes. Not deserved of course, but the America of the rest of us do not cheer on Mr. Pretti's death nor Ms. Good's. The teeny tiny minority here is showing that they def. do. IMO

You're projecting a lot into a statement I didn't make. Saying, admin leave is appropriate during an investigation isn't cheering anyone's death. It's basic process. IMO
 
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Yes, a supposed law enforcement officer violently shoves a non-violent woman down to the ground. A caring non-violent man moves to help the woman up off the ground. All this done on slippery, snowy ground right next to a vehicle. The man is grabbed, pulled and sprayed with pepper spray in his face from less that a foot away. While he continues to hold onto the woman trying to get to her feet, who ultimately has to scoot on her bottom away from the agent and pepper spray, the helpful man is torn away from her and jumped on by numerous agents. Thrown down to the ground, the man is now bludgeoned in his face with a large pepper spray metal canister. The man is on his knees, bent over forward, his arms being held on both sides. Almost at the same time the non-violent man is disarmed from behind of his legal carry gun. A BP agent scurries away with that gun as the prone non-violent man is shot in the back, by two agents, 10 times. That's what I see in reviewing the videos, MO

That whole scenario is not a professional LE action. It looked more like an attack, a mugging by a gang of criminals to me. AJMO


Minnesota Good Samaritan Law might have mandated Alex Pretti to render help, since he was a licensed nurse


This law states that “any person, including medical professionals, at the scene of an emergency who knows another is exposed to or has suffered grave physical harm must provide "reasonable assistance". This assistance includes emergency care,, or obtaining help, and it applies if you are in the vicinity.”

Key Details of Minnesota Law:
Definition of Assistance: Reasonable assistance can include providing emergency care, calling for medical personnel, or offering advice.
Liability Protection: Individuals who provide emergency care in good faith without compensation are protected from civil liability, unless their actions are reckless or wanton.
"In the Vicinity": The law implies a duty for those present at the scene of an emergency to act.
This law encourages bystanders and professionals to act without fear of lawsuit, provided they are not acting recklessly.

So legally, there may be more requirement from a Minnesotan physician or a nurse to actively help.

Remember that in both cases, those of Good and of Pretti, the physicians in the vicinity of the shootings actively tried to help, at the risk of being attacked by ICE agents? The rules for medical personnel in MN are more stringent than in many other states.

Maybe the lawyers can comment - but Alex as a nurse might have had a duty to help, especially if the person was in distress from the assault.

In fact, the ICE agents might have interjected themselves between a nurse and a person showing signs of distress from being violently shoved down.
 
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ADMIN NOTE:

This post lands at random.

We have a link to the CNN interview with the witness SC, and later someone posted a link to the witness interview but it was linked to a non-approved, random social media account. Many subsequent responses were quoting and requoting based on the non approved account.

In an attempt to leave as many posts as possible, and because both sources were based on the same interview, we have removed the post with the non-approved, random source but left responses based on the same witness interview that was linked to CNN.
 
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IMO, no LE agency, by sideline request default, lets random, unvetted civilians into an active crime scene, especially right after a shooting. That's scene security, not misconduct. You don't hand control of a volatile scene to unknown people. I suspect you wouldn't like tasers being deployed either, and masks off, with your name badge with ID # idea on doesn't turn live operations into meet-and-greets. IMO
You say we wouldn’t be happy with taser and no masks, but I actually would love it if the ICE agents weren’t wearing masks, as that has been their policy since their inception. ICE been operating without masks since 2003, but all the sudden now are wearing them. And they also used to wear actual uniforms that clearly marked themselves as ICE agents, complete with badge numbers and ID. 2025 was the first time they started wearing masks and their “uniform” changed. DHS has one of the biggest budgets of any department in the entire government, I’m pretty sure they can afford to get actual uniforms so you don’t have fully covered men in jeans and flannels running around as Law Enforcement. IMO.
 
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The two Border Patrol agents who fired their guns during Alex Pretti’s fatal shooting in Minnesota have been placed on administrative leave, according to Department of Homeland Security spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin.
Minneapolis live updates: Two Border Patrol agents who fired their guns in Alex Pretti’s fatal shooting have been put on leave
Their administrative leave is not or will be the administrative leave of ANY other prior presidential administration, it's very telling of course because it goes without saying that THIS all happened BECAUSE of this current administration. Come on. IMO
 
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IMO, no LE agency, by sideline request default, let's random, unvetted civilians into an active crime scene, especially right after a shooting. That's scene security, not misconduct. You don't hand control of a volatile scene to unknown people. I suspect you wouldn't like tasers being deployed either, and masks off, with your name badge with ID # idea on doesn't turn live operations into meet-and-greets. IMO
I have no idea what you're trying to say. But ICE agents are not trained, clearly. Why would I make the suggestion if I didn't think it would be a preferred method? Alex Pretti and Renee Nicole Good would be alive right now with that simple change. Why would anyone want more lethal force? That's just stupid.
 
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MOO the agents on administrative leave are on paid leave, as would any law enforcement officer being investigated for a use of force claim. I am just happy they are not on the streets with the ability to kill more humans while their conduct is being investigated.

It ain't much but it is something.
 
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Good. Appropriate decision. IMO
How can it be appropriate? Their names are still unknown to MN LE and the state's citizens. If the players were changed to MN local police being the shooters, would not MN and the nation know who the actors were? Would local or state LE not be named? There's a standard of LE investigation that's not being met by the DHS/ICE investigating themselves, behind closed doors. MN's governnent, state and local, are concerned that evidence was taken and removed with no care or accountability being shown. DHS/ICE have assured by those actions, IMO, that if warranted no prosecution could be undertaken. Is that the correct way of investigating, of professional LE, of seeking answers and justice? Again all rhetorical question as I think the answers are quite clear. No
AJMO
 
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The two Border Patrol agents who fired their guns during Alex Pretti’s fatal shooting in Minnesota have been placed on administrative leave, according to Department of Homeland Security spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin.
Minneapolis live updates: Two Border Patrol agents who fired their guns in Alex Pretti’s fatal shooting have been put on leave
They have throw out crumbs of appeasement right? IMO These killers, and of Renee Good, were OK and obviously knew that they themselves were OK with whatever they did. No getting around that. IMO
 
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Senator Rand Paul, R-Ky., called for an independent investigation into Pretti's death, saying the Department of Homeland Security should appoint a commission.

"We can’t just say oh, nothing to see here, and he was obviously an assassin and a domestic terrorist. When we say things like that, it leads to no confidence," he said, referring to DHS's initial statements about Pretti.

"I don’t think it’s honest to say he brandished a weapon. I don’t think it’s honest to say he assaulted officers," he told reporters. "I’m not saying he might not have been obnoxious. I’m not saying he might have said obnoxious things, but he films; he doesn’t even obstruct the traffic. He waves a car through in the middle of this as they approach him. He retreats as they approach him again, he retreats when a woman is shoved to the ground, he goes to help her up, and that’s when he is grabbed from behind."
Minneapolis live updates: Two Border Patrol agents who fired their guns in Alex Pretti’s fatal shooting have been put on leave

thank you Senator Paul.
 
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IMO, no LE agency, by sideline request default, let's random, unvetted civilians into an active crime scene, especially right after a shooting. That's scene security, not misconduct. You don't hand control of a volatile scene to unknown people. I suspect you wouldn't like tasers being deployed either, and masks off, with your name badge with ID # idea on doesn't turn live operations into meet-and-greets. IMO
Are they trained to render aid? Because we've seen two violent scenes where they didn't bother. Do they know how to render first aid or comfort to an injured person?

We've witnessed these "trained" agents walk away from injuries they caused, so the assumption is that is protocol.

jmo
 
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