MN - Alex Pretti dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

[keek]

Are they trained to render aid? Because we've seen two violent scenes where they didn't bother. Do they know how to render first aid or comfort to an injured person?

We've witnessed these "trained" agents walk away from injuries they caused so the assumption is that is protocol.

jmo

When you are shooting to kill, what aid? IMO

 

[Charlot123]

My state also has a "Real ID" that can get you on a plane and (as listed) even get you entrance into a nuclear facility. That is not acceptable if ICE stopped my car in my state. I would need a passport or a birth certificate, maybe both.

Concerning those Native Americans taken, the Chief was interviewed and told by DHS/(ICE) in a document, if he wanted more than just the first names of the tribal members being held, his tribe would have to agree and sign off on ICE/DHS having complete access to reservation land, to come and go as they see fit. I see that as blackmail using human lives to force them to give up their tribal rights to their land as they're holding First Nation Citizens in captivity.
MO...disgraceful and illegal.
AJMO

Enhanced driver’s license is not real ID

“An Enhanced Driver's License (EDL) is a U.S. state-issued ID (from MI, MN, NY, VT, WA) that confirms U.S. citizenship and identity, allowing easy land/sea travel to Canada without a passport, featuring a U.S. flag and RFID chip for quick border checks, but it cannot be used for international air travel. It serves as a convenient, lower-cost passport alternative for driving or boating across the border, but travelers still need a passport book for flights, though a DUI can make you inadmissible“

(It was more about what to carry with you that is small and not easily lost).

About the Natives, AFAIK, tribal cards that are small and easy to carry, used to be enough for them. To make them obtain a passport is an extra job and money IMHO.

But are ICE agents trained at recognizing tribal documents?

 

[LibraStarr]

When you get your driver's license don't you have to present either a passport or birth certificate? It's necessary in our state, weird they (ICE) wouldn't see a driver's license as proper ID.

Citizens have to present a birth certificate when getting a license but immigrants with work visas and green card holders (and others) can also obtain driver's licenses. So ICE seems to be saying that a license doesn't prove citizenship, only legal status.

In my opinion, if they were only going after violent undocumented criminals, a valid license would be just fine... but we know it's not about that.

 

[Bibbers]

IMHO the shooting of AP was very wrong and another tragedy. I view it differently than RG. I think the whole situation in MN is completely out of control obviously. I don’t like how the administration handled it afterwards and I don’t like how MN officials handled it. Initially ICE was there to do a job. MN failed to assist them with protesters etc. I don’t think ICE is trained in crowd control as LE are. Things have escalated with ICE and I am uncertain what mindset that puts them in. However Mr Pretti should never have been shot after his weapon was removed. Did a weapon discharge causing the panic and what happened, maybe, but it still should not have happened. AP had what appears to be another encounter with ICE that left him injured. Is that why he was armed that day? Maybe. Why did he have extra magazines for his gun (if he did)? I still assert he should not have been shot unless we are shown proof otherwise. This is not like the holocaust though and I find the comparison offensive. Let’s get ICE out of MN for now and hopefully reassess the whole situation.

Daughter of holocaust survivor here. I don't find the comparison offensive at all. They are the gestapo. My mother's stories of when the Gestapo came to their house, the sound of their boots, their violence makes this all very familiar to me.

 

[sunshineray]

When you get your driver's license don't you have to present either a passport or birth certificate? It's necessary in our state, weird they (ICE) wouldn't see a driver's license as proper ID.

For what my state calls a "Real ID" yes you do. You need a passport, birth certificate, SS#, learner's permit or driving school certificate and proof of insurance on the car being used for the test. Which is why it's very odd ICE won't accept it as proof of citizenship.

As far as when I got my license, only a learner's permit or driving school certificate and a birth certificate were needed.

 

[Summerliz03]

But are ICE agents trained at recognizing tribal documents?

Considering they have still detained US citizens even after they’ve shown passports and other definitive proof of citizenship (papers if you will), I highly doubt they know how to recognize tribal documents. They went into the Ecuadorian consulate to try to detain someone and didn’t seem to know how to administer first aid and CPR to a gunshot victim. These are not well trained officers. I personally wouldn’t call them officers at all. All MOO.

 

[sunshineray]

Minnesota Good Samaritan Law might have mandated Alex Pretti to render help, since he was a licensed nurse

Sec. 604A.01 MN Statutes

www.revisor.mn.gov

This law states that “any person, including medical professionals, at the scene of an emergency who knows another is exposed to or has suffered grave physical harm must provide "reasonable assistance". This assistance includes emergency care,, or obtaining help, and it applies if you are in the vicinity.”

Key Details of Minnesota Law:
Definition of Assistance: Reasonable assistance can include providing emergency care, calling for medical personnel, or offering advice.
Liability Protection: Individuals who provide emergency care in good faith without compensation are protected from civil liability, unless their actions are reckless or wanton.
"In the Vicinity": The law implies a duty for those present at the scene of an emergency to act.
This law encourages bystanders and professionals to act without fear of lawsuit, provided they are not acting recklessly.

So legally, there may be more requirement from a Minnesotan physician or a nurse to actively help.

Remember that in both cases, those of Good and of Pretti, the physicians in the vicinity of the shootings actively tried to help, at the risk of being attacked by ICE agents? The rules for medical personnel in MN are more stringent than in many other states.

Maybe the lawyers can comment - but Alex as a nurse might have had a duty to help, especially if the person was in distress from the assault.

In fact, the ICE agents might have interjected themselves between a nurse and a person showing signs of distress from being violently shoved down.

He was trying to help her up from a fall, obviously concerned for her. She's actually lucky she wasn't shot too.

 

[keek]

Daughter of holocaust survivor here. I don't find the comparison offensive at all. They are the gestapo. My mother's stories of when the Gestapo came to their house, the sound of their boots, their violence makes this all very familiar to me.

It is not offensive to me, it is a warning and heartbreakingly so. Not even that much of a warning, it is too very close to being the same to non white, white appearing people. (((( ))))

 

[keek]

Considering they have still detained US citizens even after they’ve shown passports and other definitive proof of citizenship (papers if you will), I highly doubt they know how to recognize tribal documents. They went into the Ecuadorian consulate and didn’t seem to know how to administer first aid and CPR to a gunshot victim. These are not well trained officers. I personally wouldn’t call them officers at all. All MOO.

They are not, their training is ...what? We see what it is. IMO

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Daughter of holocaust survivor here. I don't find the comparison offensive at all. They are the gestapo. My mother's stories of when the Gestapo came to their house, the sound of their boots, their violence makes this all very familiar to me.

I’ve been biting my tongue, but my Oma and her family were prisoners of war and I don’t find the comparison offensive either. I truly am thankful that my Oma is in heaven and unable to see what the America she loved, the America who liberated her from the camp, has become. Her little brother is still alive and in his 90’s and my cousins have to keep the news off because it disturbs him so much.

 

[tlcya]

I posted another source for that video on the same page as the one you reference. I believe it is real. ETA if it is determined to be false I wil remove post haste.

found this NPR link which features video of the same agent from the front who can be seen beginning to clap after the shots are fired. See the second video shown on the page.

https://www.npr.org/2026/01/25/nx-s1-5687384/minneapolis-minnesota-shooting-video-dhs

 

[keek]

I’ve been biting my tongue, but my Oma and her family were prisoners of war and I don’t find the comparison offensive either. I truly am thankful that my Oma is in heaven and unable to see what the America she loved, the America who liberated her from the camp, has become. Her little brother is still alive and in his 90’s and my cousins have to keep the news off because it disturbs him so much.

Yes, let him be, he is long safe and should only be enjoying his family, a flower garden and sunshine, good food.

 

[sunshineray]

Enhanced driver’s license is not real ID

“An Enhanced Driver's License (EDL) is a U.S. state-issued ID (from MI, MN, NY, VT, WA) that confirms U.S. citizenship and identity, allowing easy land/sea travel to Canada without a passport, featuring a U.S. flag and RFID chip for quick border checks, but it cannot be used for international air travel. It serves as a convenient, lower-cost passport alternative for driving or boating across the border, but travelers still need a passport book for flights, though a DUI can make you inadmissible“

(It was more about what to carry with you that is small and not easily lost).

About the Natives, AFAIK, tribal cards that are small and easy to carry, used to be enough for them. To make them obtain a passport is an extra job and money IMHO.

But are ICE agents trained at recognizing tribal documents?

Yes our Real ID is just for domestic travel, looks the same size as a regular driver's license. I didn't know Canada accepted it, that might be changing soon, hope not. I read the Native Americans were taking from under a bridge area, they may not have even had a license or papers on them. But when identified as NA's by their tribe they were held basically for ransom by the DHS/ICE.
Deplorable, AJMO

 

[Amonet]

Minnesota Good Samaritan Law might have mandated Alex Pretti to render help, since he was a licensed nurse

Sec. 604A.01 MN Statutes

www.revisor.mn.gov

This law states that “any person, including medical professionals, at the scene of an emergency who knows another is exposed to or has suffered grave physical harm must provide "reasonable assistance". This assistance includes emergency care,, or obtaining help, and it applies if you are in the vicinity.”

Key Details of Minnesota Law:
Definition of Assistance: Reasonable assistance can include providing emergency care, calling for medical personnel, or offering advice.
Liability Protection: Individuals who provide emergency care in good faith without compensation are protected from civil liability, unless their actions are reckless or wanton.
"In the Vicinity": The law implies a duty for those present at the scene of an emergency to act.
This law encourages bystanders and professionals to act without fear of lawsuit, provided they are not acting recklessly.

So legally, there may be more requirement from a Minnesotan physician or a nurse to actively help.

Remember that in both cases, those of Good and of Pretti, the physicians in the vicinity of the shootings actively tried to help, at the risk of being attacked by ICE agents? The rules for medical personnel in MN are more stringent than in many other states.

Maybe the lawyers can comment - but Alex as a nurse might have had a duty to help, especially if the person was in distress from the assault.

In fact, the ICE agents might have interjected themselves between a nurse and a person showing signs of distress from being violently shoved down.

I can't speak to the law but I do think it's a fair point that a trained medical professional like a nurse might be more inclined than some people (who might be more reticent) to immediately run towards someone who's fallen or been pushed over.

When I had a bad fall a few years ago by the side of a road, and man pulled up in his car to help and said he was a First Responder...could be medical, LE, fire brigade type job that would come with responsibility to stop and render assistance. An off-duty nurse also stopped for me as she was walking past. I think it's second nature for many of them even if it's not an obvious serious injury situation.

 

[sunspun]

not laughing at you but at the dichotomy

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So, to recap: armed men storm Whitehouse to disrupt peaceful transfer of power. No problem pardon those patriotic felllows. Alex Pretti, documenting ICE agents with a registered, permited holstered weapon, is met with

"Well, that being said," Trump returned to the reporter, "you can't have guns. You can't walk in with guns. You just can't. Listen, you can't walk in with guns. You can't do that. It's just a very unfortunate incident." 'You can’t have guns': Trump stuns with anti-2nd Amendment demand for protestors

we live in bizarro world at this point.

ETA LMAO I just hovered over my own post and saw that the white house link I posted in it is considered low credibility. You've got that right

That Trump quote in your post is exactly what I was talking about in my recent post. That's what I heard Trump say on TV as I passed thru the room w/the TV on.

And that's what I'm saying is totally factually incorrect.

It's simply not true. And he knows it!

"...you can't have guns... you can't do that... you just can't..." YES, YOU CAN. He knows this, because he very often talks about the 2A right, talking abt how sacred the right is to Americans and how he promises to protect it and never let THEM take away your guns, as he says "because they are coming after your guns, believe me" (paraphrase).

SO NOW HE SAYS YOU CAN'T HAVE GUNS? Just yesterday he said "you have the right to a gun, you CAN have guns, they can't take away your guns. I won't let them." (paraphrase) but today, no, "you can't have a gun", "you just can't" - not a paraphrase, his actual words.

BIZARROWORLD

 

[Inthedetails]

Yes our Real ID is just for domestic travel, looks the same size as a regular driver's license. I didn't know Canada accepted it, that might be changing soon, hope not. I read the Native Americans were taking from under a bridge area, they may not have even had a license or papers on them. But when identified as NA's by their tribe they were held basically for ransom by the DHS/ICE.
Deplorable, AJMO

It's absolutely absurd. Where were they planning to deport Native Americans to?!?

I hope press keeps on that story.


jmo

 

[TalkToTofana]

I would actually agree with you, I don’t think random people should be able to enter a crime scene to render aid in normal situations. However, the agents themselves weren’t doing it, and didn’t seem able or willing to do it, and it seems they realized it was an extremely grave situation since he was shot 10+ times so they eventually allowed the physician to assist.

When I did first aid training, it said I should default to whomever is more experienced than me. That means if I'm giving first aid and a physician shows up, then they should take over based on their experience. I assumed this was common knowledge for first aid.

 

[tlcya]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2016585421027754465

I've seen what she considered to be assault sadly we all have

 

[Inthedetails]

Here's a photo of what I'm talking about regarding the clearly identified STATE trooper. The state uniforms display the shape of the state of Minnesota in white to clearly show they are with the state. I know the image isn't that clear, but the state troopers are in bright yellow at the right side of the photo and have the shape of the state displayed in white.

Protest outside the hotel where Bovino, who has been removed from his role, is reportedly staying, in Maple Grove

A demonstrator carrying a U.S. flag walks next to law enforcement officers in position during a protest outside the hotel where Greg Bovino, who has been...

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[tlcya]

The Department of Homeland Security is distancing itself from its Saturday statement that Alex Pretti "violently resisted" Customs and Border Protection and appeared to want to "massacre law enforcement."

“The initial statement was based on reports from CBP from a very chaotic scene on the ground. That’s precisely why an investigation is underway and DHS will let the facts lead the investigation,” a spokesperson told NBC News today.

Asked if DHS stood by Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem's comments that Pretti was a domestic terrorist, the agency's spokeswoman, Tricia McLaughlin, told Fox Business, "I think that's why the investigation is so important, so we can get accurate facts."

Last night, White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller said the "initial statement from DHS was based on reports from CBP on the ground" and said they are "evaluating" why CBP did not appear to follow proper protocol during the incident.

Miller had posted about the shooting in a pair of posts on X on Saturday, referring to Pretti as an "assassin" and "would-be assassin" who "tried to murder federal agents." Both posts are still up.
DHS walks back initial statements about Alex Pretti