MN - Alex Pretti dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

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IMO, it doesn't matter to me what the political leanings are. If you show up to impede federal officers, *conspire* to impede federal officers, that's a crime. Getting in people's faces and shouting obscenities and blowing whistles is ignorant and childish as far as I'm concerned.

You're in a place where you can carry legally and responsibly? By all means, have at it.

All JMO
Nobody showed up to impede federal officers.

People showed up to document that their tax dollars were being spent on appropriately executed federal work.

MOO
 
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I think a person who felt fear in that situation had no business in a LE job.

The shooters had a job where it is important to be able to control their emotions.

If I were in the operating room while someone was having an appendix removed, I might get squeamish and pass out. That's why I'm not a surgeon.

Those shooters had no business carrying badges and guns if seeing a man with a phone and a whistle helping a bullied woman up caused them to fear for their lives. How sincerely they felt afraid is not the issue. The issue is pros don't let stuff like that scare them.

Look at the videos from any angle. No pro should have been scared.

MOO
I completely agree. Aren't these professionals? They carry deadly weapons so I certainly hope so!
 
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The agents weren’t conducting an active operation at that moment; they were waiting for a warrant.
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Do you have a link for that? I haven't seen either of those two statements reported in the MSM media.

As far as we know, the agents were conducting an active operation even if we don't know who and where their targets for that day were. And I haven't seen it reported anywhere that they were waiting for a warrant. But even if they were, that's evidence that they were still conducting their operation.
 
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Hey Everyone,

A friend of mine shared his thoughts with me and gave me permission to post them here. His perspective is different from what most people in this thread believe

I’m posting this because I think it’s important to understand how people think who strongly disagree with each other. I’d like to hear your responses to his views and how you would address his arguments.

As always, please respond respectfully and thoughtfully. This is a good opportunity to show that people can disagree passionately and still have a productive, civil conversation.

From my friend
I think that any LE officer in this situation could have felt threatened by this guy's movements. He is clearly resisting the officers and reaching for something. Did someone shout "gun" at some point? If so it would heighten the fear among the officers. Did the officers who fired at him know that another officer had taken a weapon from him? I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't from watching that confusing struggle. Does taking a single weapon during the struggle mean he doesn't have another weapon that could be used to kill? Of course not

So it's boils down to did the actions of the armed instigator cause these officers to fear for their lives or the safety of others. If it did then the shooting is legally justified


I wonder if you think it's possible the officers in this case really did fear for their safety during this encounter with the armed protester.

Tricia again. I would love to see your replies to my friend's message.
The ICE agents were the instigators and abusers from start to finish. Good LE are trained to de-escalate situations, not inflame them. It's clear from watching many live feeds of the protests, they also target women to bully and arrest. I don't see fear in the ICE posse, only aggression. Let's never forget two agents emptied their guns into a motionless man laying on the ground. JMO Here's yet another example from today in Santa Barbara
 
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15m ago
A federal judge in Minnesota has canceled a contempt of court hearing for a lead ICE official, but also noted that the agency has failed to comply with nearly 100 court orders since 1 January.

Chief U.S. District Judge Patrick J. Schiltz in Minneapolis canceled acting ICE chief Todd Lyons’s appearance after the agency released a wrongly detained Ecuadorean man. At the same time, Schiltz noted that ICE had failed to comply with 96 court orders in 74 cases.

“ICE is not a law unto itself. ICE has every right to challenge the orders of this court, but, like any litigant, ICE must follow those orders unless and until they are overturned or vacated,” he said in the order.

 
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A third No Kings protest will be held on 28 March, organizers announced on Wednesday. Ezra Levin, co-founder of Indivisible, one of the groups coordinating No Kings, said that he expected it to be “the biggest protest in American history”.

Protests will be held nationwide, with a flagship event in Minnesota’s Twin Cities – Minneapolis and Saint Paul – where this month federal immigration agents killed two residents, Alex Pretti and Renee Nicole Good, amid their escalated operations in the region.

Levin said No Kings 3 was a response to many Americans’ growing outrage over Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and the Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) “reign of terror” in communities across the country. The coalition behind the No Kings protests also hosted a mass mobilization “weekend of action” immediately following Good’s death, which included more than 1,000 protests, vigils and other events. According to recent polling from YouGov, more Americans now support abolishing ICE than oppose

 
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12 min ago

Alex Pretti's family attorney issues statement on video of previous clash​

From CNN’s Maureen Chowdhury
CNN’s Anderson Cooper read aloud a new statement from Alex Pretti’s family attorney, Steve Schleicher, reacting to the recently released video of a clash between Pretti and federal agents 11 days before he was fatally shot in a separate confrontation. The statement reads:

“A week before Alex was gunned down in the street, despite posing no threat to anyone, he was violently assaulted by a group of ICE agents. Nothing that happened a full week before could possibly have justified Alex’s killing at the hands of ICE on January 24.”

 
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15m ago
A federal judge in Minnesota has canceled a contempt of court hearing for a lead ICE official, but also noted that the agency has failed to comply with nearly 100 court orders since 1 January.

Chief U.S. District Judge Patrick J. Schiltz in Minneapolis canceled acting ICE chief Todd Lyons’s appearance after the agency released a wrongly detained Ecuadorean man. At the same time, Schiltz noted that ICE had failed to comply with 96 court orders in 74 cases.

“ICE is not a law unto itself. ICE has every right to challenge the orders of this court, but, like any litigant, ICE must follow those orders unless and until they are overturned or vacated,” he said in the order.

I hope this isn’t too off topic, but all I can think when I see articles like this is just how much more money all these deportations that are done illegally are costing the American taxpayer. All the court orders to stop detainments and the blockages and litigation is just more money spent on this. Such a waste IMO.
 
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10 min ago

Pretti's actions during prior law enforcement interaction don't justify his killing 11 days later, Frey says​

From CNN's Michael Williams
Seeing for the first time a video depicting a prior physical interaction between Alex Pretti and federal law enforcement, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey said regardless of what the video showed, it did not justify Pretti’s killing more than a week later.

CNN previously reported that the newly surfaced video showed Pretti kicking the taillight of a law enforcement vehicle before being tackled to the ground. The video was posted by the digital outlet The News Movement and shows a handgun tucked into Pretti’s waistband. It is unclear whether the agents noticed Pretti’s gun; they do not attempt to disarm him.

It’s not immediately clear what took place immediately before or after the video.

“Are we actually making the argument that Alex Pretti should be killed for something that happened, like 11 days prior to the shooting itself?” Frey said during a CNN town hall. “I think we should be talking about the circumstances that actually led to the killing and what took place and those circumstances.”

 
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Hey Everyone,

A friend of mine shared his thoughts with me and gave me permission to post them here. His perspective is different from what most people in this thread believe

I’m posting this because I think it’s important to understand how people think who strongly disagree with each other. I’d like to hear your responses to his views and how you would address his arguments.

As always, please respond respectfully and thoughtfully. This is a good opportunity to show that people can disagree passionately and still have a productive, civil conversation.

From my friend
I think that any LE officer in this situation could have felt threatened by this guy's movements. He is clearly resisting the officers and reaching for something. Did someone shout "gun" at some point? If so it would heighten the fear among the officers. Did the officers who fired at him know that another officer had taken a weapon from him? I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't from watching that confusing struggle. Does taking a single weapon during the struggle mean he doesn't have another weapon that could be used to kill? Of course not

So it's boils down to did the actions of the armed instigator cause these officers to fear for their lives or the safety of others. If it did then the shooting is legally justified


I wonder if you think it's possible the officers in this case really did fear for their safety during this encounter with the armed protester.

Tricia again. I would love to see your replies to my friend's message.

My reply would be to watch the footage again! There was no armed instigator unless he is talking about the CBP agent that confronted the two women, there was absolutely no reason for agents to fear for their lives, they created the whole incident when they assaulted a woman and then assaulted, and executed the man who came to help her!.
There was nothing in APs hands apart from his camera, both hands were clearly visible. Multiple agents tackled him to the ground, there was no sign of him reaching for anything other than the woman at any point, they pepper sprayed him, beat him, pinned him to the ground and shot him in cold blood.
It is video documented and as clear as it can possibly be and if your friend genuinely believes otherwise after reviewing all the footage, and reading witness accounts my suggestion to him would be to see an optician asap.
JMO.
 
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Nobody showed up to impede federal officers.

People showed up to document that their tax dollars were being spent on appropriately executed federal work.

MOO
3000 troops, hotel rooms, airfare to transport detainees to Texas (where some are then released), agent salaries, vehicles, lawsuits.

Add up the federal money spent for this ICE surge. Then recall the cheers last year for DOGE firing federal employees "to save taxpayer money."

Where is the money coming from to fund this disaster? You.

In My Opinion
 
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Do you have a link for that? I haven't seen either of those two statements reported in the MSM media.

As far as we know, the agents were conducting an active operation even if we don't know who and where their targets for that day were. And I haven't seen it reported anywhere that they were waiting for a warrant. But even if they were, that's evidence that they were still conducting their operation.
“Nilson Barahona, another witness, told CNN that he was at Glam Doll Donuts on the same street when someone fleeing federal agents ran into the restaurant. The donut shop staff quickly locked the doors, and when agents couldn’t get inside, they turned their attention to “those who were outside, who had come to help,” Barahona said.”

 
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25 min ago

Frey says “a common sense of humanity” not just protocol was violated in Pretti’s killing​

From CNN's Michael Williams

Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey said the killing of Alex Pretti was not just a potential violation of protocol – but a violation of basic humanity.

“Well, it’s not just protocol that was violated,” Frey said during a CNN town hall tonight. “It’s a common sense of humanity. You have a person that was trying to help someone else, that was tackled to the ground. He was not a threat to anyone else and fired upon by multiple agents.”
Frey’s comments came after he was asked to respond to White House immigration policy architect Stephen Miller indicating that Border Patrol policy may have been breached during Pretti’s killing. Miller initially claimed that Pretti may have intended to assassinate police officers – a position that the administration walked back after video of the interaction between Pretti and law enforcement seemed to contradict that claim.

“It’s awful,” Frey said. “I mean, I’ll just ask a simple question: If all of those agents were not wearing a uniform, what would we call that?”

 
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23 min ago

Frey offers an apology to a constituent​

Analysis from CNN's Aaron Blake

Perhaps the most striking moment of the town hall so far came when a Somali-American law student, Munira Alimire, asked Frey how he was helping afflicted people “who have had their loved ones brutalized.”

Frey said the municipal government was doing what it could, but then he quickly turned to an apology. He suggested the situation was so unthinkable and unprecedented that his tools to deal with it were limited.

“Is it enough? And this is real: No,” Frey said, adding: “Never in a million years would I have imagined that this kind of thing would happen in America.”

Then Frey told Alimire: “I’m sorry to you, to your community and to your soon-to-be profession as a lawyer.”

Frey concluded by telling the student that she had an important role to play to as a legal advocate.

 
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25 min ago

Minneapolis police would work with federal officials on arresting murderers and rapists, mayor says​

From CNN's Elise Hammond

Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey said city law enforcement would help federal agencies on catching criminals, but not on immigration operations.

“Importantly when you’re trying to catch a murderer or a rapist, the first question that you ask is not ‘Where are you from,’” he said at a CNN town hall.

“The question that’s important is, did they rape somebody? Did they murder somebody? And if they did, we investigate and we partner to do so,” he said.

The mayor explained what it means for Minneapolis to be a sanctuary city, saying that the “separation ordinance” means they do not cooperate with federal agencies around immigration enforcement, but do work with federal officials “to protect people and keep them safe.”

Another part of that separation ordinance is not asking people if they are undocumented, Frey said, describing it as a “safety strategy” so that people feel confident they can call 911 if there is an emergency without being worried they will be deported.

 
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27 min ago

Frey is visibly moved by son of patient whom Alex Pretti honored​

From CNN’s Maureen Chowdhury

Mac Randolph, whose father was a hospice patient of Alex Pretti at a VA hospital, had a moving exchange with Frey.

Randolph asked his question after a video of Pretti honoring Randolph’s father after his death was shown.

He asked, “Is there any transparency from feds on a timeline when their operation would be satisfied and they would conclude? Or is this just the new reality?”

Frey was visibly moved by Randolph’s connection to Pretti.

“Mac, first, thank you for being here. It’s got to be a pretty emotional thing having someone that took such good care and had such deep respect for your dad get shot and killed,” Frey said.

He then said, “Look, we don’t have a timeline as to when and how it will be drawn down.” He then noted that the city and state have partnered extensively with multiple federal agencies to drive down crime to “record lows.”

“But that’s not what this is about. And so do I have a timeline as to when it’s going to end? No, that would be a better question for the federal government. But we’re going to do everything possible that we can to advocate, to push and to stand up for the neighbors who we love so dearly. I wish I had a better answer,” Frey said.

 
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In my opinion, yes, the video evidence is factual enough. Again, I do not agree with my friend.
However, there are people who do not believe the video is enough. That's why we are here. To discuss the evidence in a rational and calm way. It's what we do on Websleuths.
I had this discussion on a private thread.

Some people have not seen the videos and perhaps refuse to watch them because they really don't want to expose themselves to federal agents behaving badly. They want the world to be simple- the good guys to always be good.

Other people have seen the videos and lie to themselves because they don't want to expose themselves to federal agents behaving badly. If they were honest with themselves they would say something like, "I wish that video showed Alex brandishing a gun because I really want to believe that the good guys are always good."

MOO
 
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“On the ground”? Like Roland Hedley?

16 “Minnesota rioters”? whooo scary mid west people with WHISTLES

Lol


Imo
You betcha!

MOO
 
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At the first court appearance for 16 protesters accused of various disruptions by the federal government, Judge Dulce J. Foster said she was “deeply disturbed” that Attorney General Pam Bondi had published the names and images of the defendants on social media, calling them “rioters.” Foster noted that they should be presumed innocent until proven guilty. Earlier in the hearing, a lawyer for some of the defendants had raised Bondi’s posts, calling them dangerous.

And why hasn’t Botox Pam published the names of the ICE agents? MOO!
 
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