MN - Alex Pretti dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

[BeginnerSleuther]

IMO Would Mr. Pretti have had continued employment with his current employer if this video was brought to their attention? Employers are permitted to take action on off duty conduct when it calls into question someone’s fitness for duty, particularly in roles involving vulnerable patients. Kicking , spitting at a LE vehicle and engaging in a physical confrontation with agents demonstrates a serious lapse in judgement and impulse control. We would see this again, amped up, a week later. IMO

Video shows Alex Pretti in scuffle with federal agents 11 days before his death

A newly released video shows Alex Pretti confronting federal officers on a Minneapolis street 11 days before he was fatally shot in another encounter with CBP agents, a Pretti family representative confirmed to CBS News.

www.cbsnews.com

The man is dead. Whether or not his employer would have fired him for something he did a week before he was brutally killed is irrelevant, IMO. Also, being terminated is a far cry from being killed. So I don't get your point.

MOO.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

IMO Would Mr. Pretti have had continued employment with his current employer if this video was brought to their attention? Employers are permitted to take action on off duty conduct when it calls into question someone’s fitness for duty, particularly in roles involving vulnerable patients. Kicking , spitting at a LE vehicle and engaging in a physical confrontation with agents demonstrates a serious lapse in judgement and impulse control. We would see this again, amped up, a week later. IMO

Video shows Alex Pretti in scuffle with federal agents 11 days before his death

A newly released video shows Alex Pretti confronting federal officers on a Minneapolis street 11 days before he was fatally shot in another encounter with CBP agents, a Pretti family representative confirmed to CBS News.

www.cbsnews.com

Also, if we're going to hold reckless behavior under the microscope and argue it's reason for job termination, then every single ICE agent involved in this and other shootings should also be terminated. They, too, are demonstrating serious lapses in judgment and impulse control.

MOO.

 

[TristanP]

We weren't there and what matters is the perception of the Federal agent(s) at the time.

What do you think their perception was?

 

[SouthAussie]

I found that a very helpful read. I think it explains some of the anxious feelings and distaste some are feeling when seeing these organisations in action and the choices they make.

I also think the article does offer helpful assessment of differences that could be applied to ICE to make it more in line with regular LE so that they'd be more likely to retain the support of more of the public, suffer less antagonism from the public, and be a safer force both for themselves, the public, and those they apprehend. Add in things like triple checking of targets to ensure they really are violent and illegal, and I think the public would be so much more accepting and eventually supportive.

And add in the dropping of their target of 3,000 arrests per day - which equates to an average of 60 arrests per state per day.

I have seen some people have denied there is a quota, but there certainly is a target quota, as stated by Stephen Miller back in May 2025.

A quota like that has led to incorrect arrests, perhaps desperate arrests, and a rapid hiring and 'training' of some very seemingly incompetent people.

imo



The Trump administration has set aggressive new goals in its anti-immigration agenda, demanding that federal agents arrest 3,000 people a day – or more than a million in a year.

The new target, tripling arrest figures from earlier this year, was delivered to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) leaders by Stephen Miller, the White House deputy chief of staff, and Kristi Noem, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) secretary, in a strained meeting last week.

The 21 May meeting in Washington DC is the latest example of the increasing pressure being placed on officials nationwide to increase the number of arrests of immigrants, as the administration doubles down on its anti-immigration agenda.

Trump administration sets quota to arrest 3,000 people a day in anti-immigration agenda

The target was delivered by Stephen Miller and Kristi Noem, and triples figures fromearlier this year

www.theguardian.com

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Do they not use handcuffs as we see LE use in any and all situations they are 'not happy with' the person they are confronting? Not these ICE it turned out. IMO

It's hard to use handcuffs when you're beating someone over the head.

 

[TristanP]

For how long will "Good Samaritans" exist in the US when they see what happens to people who go to the assistance of another person?

The lesson here appears to be that if, in the presence of ICE or Border Patrol, do not go to the assistance of anyone who is pushed or falls to the ground. If you do, you maybe pepper sprayed, pushed to the ground, beaten up, and shot dead. Some might say this is hyperbole. The gun makes a difference? So don't reach to help anyone while you're legally carrying a small holstered gun. And then you'll be safe?

I know some perceive this to be a lesson in not interfering with LE. And I'd agree with them if LE had been trying to apprehend some violent criminal and AP had stepped between. But it was a woman fallen to the snowy, icy, sidewalk that AP went toward, not a criminal trying to evade apprehension by LE. That makes a huge difference in my mind.

That is the intent when ICE does that. They want to instill fear. They want to stop people from attempting to interfere. And they have been given free reign to do so without accountability.

 

[TristanP]

IMO Would Mr. Pretti have had continued employment with his current employer if this video was brought to their attention? Employers are permitted to take action on off duty conduct when it calls into question someone’s fitness for duty, particularly in roles involving vulnerable patients. Kicking , spitting at a LE vehicle and engaging in a physical confrontation with agents demonstrates a serious lapse in judgement and impulse control. We would see this again, amped up, a week later. IMO

Video shows Alex Pretti in scuffle with federal agents 11 days before his death

A newly released video shows Alex Pretti confronting federal officers on a Minneapolis street 11 days before he was fatally shot in another encounter with CBP agents, a Pretti family representative confirmed to CBS News.

www.cbsnews.com

Was he doing so in hospital branded attire? Was he identifying himself as being an employee of that hospital? Was he clocked in at work but out on the street protesting?

For God's sake, two Federal agents put 10 bullets in this man when he had not threatened them and had been disarmed, and you're questioning HIS judgement?

 

[Amonet]

IMO Would Mr. Pretti have had continued employment with his current employer if this video was brought to their attention? Employers are permitted to take action on off duty conduct when it calls into question someone’s fitness for duty, particularly in roles involving vulnerable patients. Kicking , spitting at a LE vehicle and engaging in a physical confrontation with agents demonstrates a serious lapse in judgement and impulse control. We would see this again, amped up, a week later. IMO

Video shows Alex Pretti in scuffle with federal agents 11 days before his death

A newly released video shows Alex Pretti confronting federal officers on a Minneapolis street 11 days before he was fatally shot in another encounter with CBP agents, a Pretti family representative confirmed to CBS News.

www.cbsnews.com

In what way did he amp up that behaviour a week later would you say?

I don't honestly think he would have treated a patient like that, he was angry at what he thought was injustice and at the behaviour he knew ICE to be capable of. That can bring on anger in people, and I would suggest anger management might have been appropriate.. though it feels insulting to say it.

But if I think he could have used anger management course, I think those officers who tackled him and beat him up need it ten times more...and this is their in-job behaviour, while I fully expect if AP had behaved that way during his job he would not keep that job for long.

As TristanP has said above:

For God's sake, two Federal agents put 10 bullets in this man when he had not threatened them and had been disarmed, and you're questioning HIS judgement?

Yes. Even if we found out he was an escaped-from-prison mass murderer, while that might affect our general like/dislike/empathy for him in general, it shouldn't really change how we view this incident. And that's how I think we need to think every time we see an incident like this.

 

[airportwoman]

Unfortunately, while the vast majority are like Alex Pretti, we also live in a world where Lucy Letby exists. Some people get into professions like medicine, teaching, and the clergy for all the wrong reasons. Fortunately, they are the minority.

MOO

Or, for that matter, Michael McKee, who led to one of the longest threads we've got going here (Spencer & Monique Tepe).

 

[airportwoman]

The man is dead. Whether or not his employer would have fired him for something he did a week before he was brutally killed is irrelevant, IMO. Also, being terminated is a far cry from being killed. So I don't get your point.

MOO.

It's almost impossible to get fired from the VA, just saying.

 

[browneyes]

IMO Would Mr. Pretti have had continued employment with his current employer if this video was brought to their attention? Employers are permitted to take action on off duty conduct when it calls into question someone’s fitness for duty, particularly in roles involving vulnerable patients. Kicking , spitting at a LE vehicle and engaging in a physical confrontation with agents demonstrates a serious lapse in judgement and impulse control. We would see this again, amped up, a week later. IMO

Video shows Alex Pretti in scuffle with federal agents 11 days before his death

A newly released video shows Alex Pretti confronting federal officers on a Minneapolis street 11 days before he was fatally shot in another encounter with CBP agents, a Pretti family representative confirmed to CBS News.

www.cbsnews.com

He was murdered, so we’ll never know.