MN MN - Bryce Borca, 23, college student, seen at 2AM, search focused near Minnesota River, Eagan, 30 Oct 2022

[GMS]

I'm not familiar with location sharing via facetime / snapchat, but wondering how accurate and if LE was able to pinpoint the exact location where Bryce last communicated with his friends. And then how far from that location he (Bryce) may have traveled. I also never read if it was confirmed his friends attempted to find him that night...assuming the friends referenced were the ones he facetimed and he had been with earlier and just dropped off by the Lyft.

 

[lassy]

The location his phone last ping’d was reference in an earlier post on here by TLobo on Oct 31. There was a map attached from reporter Lou Raguse. The Blue Dot on the map is the spot. I have read in a few reports that the friends went to look for him, but didn’t find him. One report said they called LE the next morning at 10:50am. I also heard they called LE shortly after they didn’t find him. So…inconsistent reports, and little information from LE to confirm. Does not pin down how far he could have traveled from a half an hour to almost 8 hours.
Same friends, I believe.

 

[lassy]

So little and vague reporting from LE, absence of news reports, and inconsistencies do not help to find this young man. Hopefully LE has all they need, but are just not passing along any information.

 

[GMS]

The location his phone last ping’d was reference in an earlier post on here by TLobo on Oct 31. There was a map attached from reporter Lou Raguse. The Blue Dot on the map is the spot. I have read in a few reports that the friends went to look for him, but didn’t find him. One report said they called LE the next morning at 10:50am. I also heard they called LE shortly after they didn’t find him. So…inconsistent reports, and little information from LE to confirm. Does not pin down how far he could have traveled from a half an hour to almost 8 hours.
Same friends, I believe.

Thanks for the clarification.

I had seen the map with the outlined area requesting door bell video, but mistakenly overlooked the blue dot as Bryce's last known location. The dot places him at the end of Yankee Doodle along the tree line and near the Outdoor Images business. Curious for locals, how much lighting is in that area from the local businesses, parking lots, industrial park? Thinking (imo) Bryce would have headed towards lighted areas or attempted to stay in more lit areas as opposed to heading deeper into the woods, marshes, etc.

 

[lassy]

Agree. He seemed to stick to major roads, paved lots up until that point. I don’t know the lighting of those industrial areas/lots at night, as I’ve only been there in the daylight. I wonder if he made his was back to highway 13. Or did he follow the RR tracks just behind the line of trees behind where he was last ping’d. There are a few ponds less than a mile up from that dot too, which they have been searching.

 

[Trino]

I keep checking the map, trying to come up with ideas, but just the notion that he was in an alcohol altered state changes where he might have gone. Seems he would have been found if he just sat or fell somewhere. He could have followed the tracks but could just as easily fallen into a pond. Water would hide him, but which water? He will eventually be found; it's not like it's an undiscovered place. Are searches like this done in winter?

 

[lassy]

LE has done thorough ground searches, drones, dogs all over that area. Also, they have been in those ponds to the right a few times. Is it possible they missed him? I have heard one is quite deep. One would think after 10 days of searching that area they would have found him by now if he were there.

 

[lassy]

Why has Bryce not been on any local tv stations for 6 days? News coverage for the first 2 days, and minimal after. If he is still missing and they are actively searching in many ways, wouldn’t they still want to get the word out and to be on the lookout for him…on a walk or on your property, or if anyone noticed someone walking that night around 3pm or has any other leads? IMO, that doesn’t seem right for a missing person that is still missing. Or is that the norm?

 

[cenazoic]

Why has Bryce not been on any local tv stations for 6 days?

This sort of a tangent, but I’ve been thinking about this a lot recently, due to this and some other cases I follow.

Aside from the well-documented ‘missing white woman syndrome’, what factors lead to increased media coverage/resolution? Family pressure on LE? LE pressuring themselves to solve? Social media coverage, etc? Some other X factor? Could make an interesting statistical survey.

 

[Trino]

LE has done thorough ground searches, drones, dogs all over that area. Also, they have been in those ponds to the right a few times. Is it possible they missed him? I have heard one is quite deep. One would think after 10 days of searching that area they would have found him by now if he were there.

There is also Gun Club Lake, with no access. It's a lake where no one goes, and it's out of a line of travel, but obviously he didn't realize where he was headed. Trains don't come through often, but I'm sure they have been alerted to look for him along the tracks. He's in the area somewhere. Time for professional searchers. Day 11. Can't let this go until spring.

 

[Trino]

Why has Bryce not been on any local tv stations for 6 days? News coverage for the first 2 days, and minimal after. If he is still missing and they are actively searching in many ways, wouldn’t they still want to get the word out and to be on the lookout for him…on a walk or on your property, or if anyone noticed someone walking that night around 3pm or has any other leads? IMO, that doesn’t seem right for a missing person that is still missing. Or is that the norm?

The area is remote so walking on private property isn't a concern, except for businesses west of Hwy 13. Hwy 13 has no trail except north starting at Lone Oak, and at that hour traffic isn't heavy. (Irony is there are plans to build a trail from Lone Oak along Hwy 13 to Nichols Rd, accessing the river.) Those businesses are working places rather than places the public would go. A tavern is at Yankee Doodle - closed at 1:00a. There have been no concerns of him with the tavern. Somehow it is known he ventured into the no man's land behind the businesses. Updates are almost non-existent. LE doesn't want searchers. Strange unless LE wants to be glory boys.

 

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[lassy]

Without seeing the FaceTime call to see how coherent he really was when the call went dead, hard to know his route. How do they know for certain he went into no man’s land? Have they found his dead cell phone, wallet, keys/key fob to his apt? I still wonder if he made it back to the streets and/or highway 13 somehow. And could be anywhere after 8 hours.

 

[lassy]

The area is remote so walking on private property isn't a concern, except for businesses west of Hwy 13. Hwy 13 has no trail except north starting at Lone Oak, and at that hour traffic isn't heavy. (Irony is there are plans to build a trail from Lone Oak along Hwy 13 to Nichols Rd, accessing the river.) Those businesses are working places rather than places the public would go. A tavern is at Yankee Doodle - closed at 1:00a. There have been no concerns of him with the tavern. Somehow it is known he ventured into the no man's land behind the businesses. Updates are almost non-existent. LE

Without seeing the FaceTime call to see how coherent he really was when the call went dead, hard to know his route. How do they know for certain he went into no man’s land? Have they found his dead cell phone, wallet, keys/key fob to his apt? I still wonder if he made it back to the streets and/or highway 13 somehow. And could be anywhere after 8 hours.

doesn't want searchers. Strange unless LE wants to be glory boys.

Joe Brunn, a similar case in Otsego Mn had 4000 volunteers searching and found him after 5 days. I am hoping for resolution soon for Bryce’s family/friends.

The area is remote so walking on private property isn't a concern, except for businesses west of Hwy 13. Hwy 13 has no trail except north starting at Lone Oak, and at that hour traffic isn't heavy. (Irony is there are plans to build a trail from Lone Oak along Hwy 13 to Nichols Rd, accessing the river.) Those businesses are working places rather than places the public would go. A tavern is at Yankee Doodle - closed at 1:00a. There have been no concerns of him with the tavern. Somehow it is known he ventured into the no man's land behind the businesses. Updates are almost non-existent. LE doesn't want searchers. Strange unless LE wants to be glory boys.

Joe Brunn, a similar case in Otsego MN a few years back, had 4000 volunteers searching and found him in the river

The area is remote so walking on private property isn't a concern, except for businesses west of Hwy 13. Hwy 13 has no trail except north starting at Lone Oak, and at that hour traffic isn't heavy. (Irony is there are plans to build a trail from Lone Oak along Hwy 13 to Nichols Rd, accessing the river.) Those businesses are working places rather than places the public would go. A tavern is at Yankee Doodle - closed at 1:00a. There have been no concerns of him with the tavern. Somehow it is known he ventured into the no man's land behind the businesses. Updates are almost non-existent. LE doesn't want searchers. Strange unless LE wants to be glory boys.

Joe Brunn, a similar case in Otsego Mn a few years back, had 4000 volunteers searching, and he was found after 5 days. I wish for some resolution soon for Bryce’s family/friends.

 

[lassy]

Seems my replies were oddly inserted into the Trino post above. No idea how that happened and not sure how to edit them. Sorry.

 

[InternetGhost91]

Bryce went missing from my neighborhood, literally from my block. I find the response from Eagan PD troubling. If Bryce was my loved one, I would be rioting. I will be out searching for him this weekend.

 

[lassy]

Bryce went missing from my neighborhood, literally from my block. I find the response from Eagan PD troubling. If Bryce was my loved one, I would be rioting. I will be out searching for him this weekend.

Agree with you that the Eagan Police response and updates (or lack of) is troubling. It seems they don’t want help, it is none of the community’s business, and they would prefer we all go away and forget about this missing kid.

 

[InternetGhost91]

Agree with you that the Eagan Police response and updates (or lack of) is troubling. It seems they don’t want help, it is none of the community’s business, and they would prefer we all go away and forget about this missing kid.

I had to report someone missing once when I lived in St. Paul. The way the police treated it was alarming. There is no motivation for them to help look for missing young people and I'm sure they see it as a waste of time and resources.

I see someone else in this thread say the police have searched extensively with drones and dogs - as someone who lives in the neighborhood, I personally haven't seen any of this. On the other hand, if they are searching, the PD should be publicizing that and keeping the case in the news. Something does not add up here... Bryce deserves to be found.

I'm also suspicious of the friends he was with that night. They all took a rideshare together, why didn't they get home together? They just let him out on Highway 13 and Yankee Doodle and all went their separate ways? Makes no sense. Even when I've been drinking heavily, I have never let my friends wander alone into the woods in the opposite direction of where they live. I'm sure they feel very badly about it in hindsight, but I am also suspicious.

The police said they were canvassing. Canvassing who? The businesses on 13? He isn't just hanging out at some random business, so why would canvassing help? Makes zero sense to me.

I'm certain Bryce is in the woods off of Highway 13 and after 11 days missing, the results are obviously not good. Someone needs to find him.

 

[acutename]

This sort of a tangent, but I’ve been thinking about this a lot recently, due to this and some other cases I follow.

Aside from the well-documented ‘missing white woman syndrome’, what factors lead to increased media coverage/resolution? Family pressure on LE? LE pressuring themselves to solve? Social media coverage, etc? Some other X factor? Could make an interesting statistical survey.

1. is the person likely still alive?
2. is there a danger to the public from someone or something that needs to be mitigated?
3. "star value" and public interest for whatever reason (involvement of children, odd last statements, puzzling social media, etc.)
all IMO

 

[InternetGhost91]

1. is the person likely still alive?
2. is there a danger to the public from someone or something that needs to be mitigated?
3. "star value" and public interest for whatever reason (involvement of children, odd last statements, puzzling social media, etc.)
all IMO

In this case it seems that Eagan PD doesn't think he is still alive and therefore low priority to them. Is there a way to put public pressure on them other than posting about it online? To me, calling off the volunteer search is unacceptable.