MN - Daunte Wright, 20, fatally shot by police during traffic stop, Brooklyn Center, 11 April 2021

[al66pine]

"Nothing Good to Say?"

I dont know, but I was taught 'If you have nothing good to say, say nothing'. It is obvious why negatives are posted in these cases. It is to blame the victim for his own death.

@Gibbo214 The "say nothing" adage may be all fine and good in obituaries & many other circumstances, but if prosecutors followed it to the letter, they would be out of work. Ditto crim defense atty's, as there would be no crim prosecutions for them to defend.

On a more serious note, per our 1st Amendment, reporters/media have freedom of the press* and individuals enjoy the right of free speech.**
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[Tippy Lynn]

Thank you so much.
Your work is amazing @TippyLynn.

You know exactly how to find things at a minutes notice.

Thank you and you're welcome.

I like to look at all the facts good, bad, ugly and everything in between.

 

[kittythehare]

Thank you and you're welcome.

I like to look at all the facts good, bad, ugly and everything in between.

You get through the court system with the speed of light.
I wish I had your skills.
Thank you so much for your graciousness and generosity.
(I'll try to keep all in one place now so I can find them)

 

[Gibbo214]

"Nothing Good to Say?"
@Gibbo214 The "say nothing" adage may be all fine and good in obituaries & many other circumstances, but if prosecutors followed it to the letter, they would be out of work. Ditto crim defense atty's, as there would be no crim prosecutions for them to defend.

On a more serious note, per our 1st Amendment, reporters/media have freedom of the press* and individuals enjoy the right of free speech.**
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** Freedom of speech in the United States - Wikipedia

All western democracies have freedom of speech. This does not, however, allow threatening to jail political opponents and call them criminals.

 

[SugarQueen]

As awful as this situation is I just can’t understand how anyone thinks it was intentional. Kim Potter made a deadly mistake when reacting to DW resisting.
She is being charged and will be held accountable.

 

[Gibbo214]

As awful as this situation is I just can’t understand how anyone thinks it was intentional. Kim Potter made a deadly mistake when reacting to DW resisting.
She is being charged and will be held accountable.

I cannot think how a 26 year veteran of LE could make that mistake. And then say 'Oh , I shot him' I expected an lol after that oh dear moment. That is the response after you shoot someone? 'Oh '?

 

[CrimeAway]

This may be a factor in this tragic case, but right now a lot is unknown:

Slips and capture - Wikipedia

ETA another link that describes the above phenomena in more detail:

Force Science explains "slips-and-capture errors"

 

[SugarQueen]

I cannot think how a 26 year veteran of LE could make that mistake. And then say 'Oh ****, I shot him' I expected an lol after that oh dear moment. That is the response after you shoot someone? 'Oh ****'?

Yes, that was her response. It sounded like a genuine, shocked, response to me.
Is there a more appropriate response?

 

[Apollo]

Yes, that was her response. It sounded like a genuine, shocked, response to me.
Is there a more appropriate response?

I think the Oh **** adds to her credibility that it was a mistake or why say that?

Perhaps some people think when listening to the comment that she's saying it in a sarcastic manner. We all hear and see things differently.

 

[Gibbo214]

Yes, that was her response. It sounded like a genuine, shocked, response to me.
Is there a more appropriate response?

I think that there are many more appropriate responses than 'Oh '.

 

[Gibbo214]

I think the Oh **** adds to her credibility that it was a mistake or why say that?

Perhaps some people think when listening to the comment that she's saying it in a sarcastic manner. We all hear and see things differently.

I think that 'oh ' means nothing. It sounds like she is saying, 'Oh dear, snicker, snicker'.

 

[Gibbo214]

"Nothing Good to Say?"
@Gibbo214 The "say nothing" adage may be all fine and good in obituaries & many other circumstances, but if prosecutors followed it to the letter, they would be out of work. Ditto crim defense atty's, as there would be no crim prosecutions for them to defend.

On a more serious note, per our 1st Amendment, reporters/media have freedom of the press* and individuals enjoy the right of free speech.**
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* Freedom of the press - Wikipedia
** Freedom of speech in the United States - Wikipedia

I have no idea what that means. Why would prosecutors be out of work if they did not bring up previous charges? And do defence attorneys defend previous crimes?

 

[Simply Southern]

I need court and case numbers, otherwise I can't.

You can look up by name. The charges are felony’s and are in the District court.
@Tippy Lynn posted at the beginning of the thread. I think it was the first day.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Yes, so very true @oceanblueeyes! Very thought-provoking post. Lots of them selflessly put their lives in danger for their community. I am in CO... So throughout these conversations here i can't help but think of the officer that selflessly ran into a mass shooting in a supermarket and was killed in the process of saving many lives. Sorry, realize this thread is about Daunte.

What i am trying to say.... Every occupation has some not so great characters, including LE. But LE as a whole should never be looked upon as all bad and i just really struggle with that.




Sorry, long day... Do you mean cutting the budget or increasing the budget?

Morning all!

ITA!

Sadly, I read about police officers being shot almost every single day it seems with multiple being shot at one time.

I agree the bad apples in any PD should be removed, but all those being shot weren't bad. They were honorable LEOs carrying out their duties when shot, stabbed or run over by bad people with the intent to do them grave harm.

Every poll I've seen about this subject shows the majority wants police officers in their communities including AAs, and certainly not less or none.

Imo, it's unwise to paint any profession with the same wide brush as if they are all the same. Actual statistic about LEOs who comes in contact with millions of people each year shows most do their duties very well... even though 60k LEOs each year are assaulted or attacked in the line of duty per the FBI.

Mrs, Potter should stand trial for killing Mr. Wright. May justice be served. It shows each case is based on what an individual has done as it always should be. That's the very foundation of our justice system.

Jmhoo

 

[SaguaroSpirit]

I think the Oh **** adds to her credibility that it was a mistake or why say that?

Perhaps some people think when listening to the comment that she's saying it in a sarcastic manner. We all hear and see things differently.

BBM. That statement is getting more true by the day.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Imo, more police training isn't the problem.

If that was true then everyone in all PDs all across our country would be doing bad things because they aren't properly trained when each one has the same training as all have on their police force where they serve.

Yet the vast majority of LEOs aren't doing these bad acts by any stretch of the imagination even though trained the same in each department.

So to me it's clear. It comes right back to each individual of those who shouldn't have ever become police officers in the first place no matter where they are located.

Jmho tho

 

[tlcya]

I think that 'oh ****' means nothing. It sounds like she is saying, 'Oh dear, snicker, snicker'.

I received her excited utterance as genuine shock and dismay at what she had just done. I did not take it as dismissive or "oh well" or snicker snicker.

I find it interesting how we all receive and hear things differently. The other day a poster thought they heard another officer onscene respond with "oh well" when in actuality the officer said "oh wow".

I do think this shooting was not justified and it does warrant the 2nd degree manslaughter charge. Do I think she did it on purpose? No. Did she do it and is she 100% culpable? Absolutely. JMO

 

[RaspberryMama]

Questions...

In regards to notices being sent to a wrong address - DW was out on bail waiting to appear in court in August, is that correct? If so, wouldn't he have had to be meeting with a parole officer regularly? Was he? If he was, why wasn't he informed at one of those meetings?

Also, does anyone know if the officer's hearing today at 1:30 will be televised?

 

[PrairieWind]

The record is set straight in this piece
Police Chief Claims Cop Who Killed Minnesota Black Man Accidentally Fired Gun Instead of Taser

Fact Check: Was Daunte Wright's arrest warrant sent to the wrong address?

and you can check it out yourself here
Search - Minnesota Court Records Online (MCRO)

This has already been debunked. The returned envelope is out of the other case and not related to the case where the warrant was issued. I'm not sure its even the same court. This needs to stop being posted.

 

[tara83]

Things have not been very good for law enforcement this last year in particular. In my opinion they've really been under attack. If my son or daughter wanted to work the streets as law enforcement in the current environment, I would say and do everything in my power to stop them.
Adrenaline. I'm pretty sure that will be a topic of this officer's trial.
Personally, I find what happened here a tragedy.
It's still early in development. So, I have no opinion as to a verdict for the officer charged.

KP was sure not under attack in this situation.I don't see what other cases have to do with this situation.