MN - Jacob Wetterling, 11, St. Joseph, 22 Oct 1989 - #10

[cGorg]

Well the information is from 1990, so it's fairly relevant. In all the discussion of possible perpetrators, there was only one person that's not been named in all of this, that would have seen the boys at home without parents, and that is the pizza delivery person.

I'm sure they were checked out though.

Can you verify that? (I'm not trying to be uppity about this. It's a great point that the pizza delivery person is unknown.....we've never delved into this....this person would have been immediately in contact with the Wetterling home and possibly may have noticed that the kids were on their own. [modsnip] we could rule this possibility in/out) ELOCsoul....It's a logical assumption on your part

 

[Trino]

Can you verify that? (I'm not trying to be uppity about this. It's a great point that the pizza delivery person is unknown.....we've never delved into this....this person would have been immediately in contact with the Wetterling home and possibly may have noticed that the kids were on their own. At the very least, by knowing the delivery persons identity we could rule this possibility in/out) ELOCsoul....It's a logical assumption on your part

Perhaps it would be a good time to review WS rules: sleuthing family members or others that are not suspect is not allowed.

 

[thenotebook]

I think it's a pretty safe assumption that LE thoroughly vetted the pizza guy back in 1989. They may not have had the technology that we have today, but that is just basic police work. The pizza person would have been the last person (besides Aaron and Trevor and the perp) to see Jacob alive.

 

[human]

If LE interviewed a man from Japan that was at the Del Win, then LE checked the pizza delivery person. No doubt in my mind.

If the guy was a sex offender, then he would have really been in the hot seat

 

[Ifollowthis]

I think it's a pretty safe assumption that LE thoroughly vetted the pizza guy back in 1989. They may not have had the technology that we have today, but that is just basic police work. The pizza person would have been the last person (besides Aaron and Trevor and the perp) to see Jacob alive.

..and the people that were in Tom Thumb...

 

[human]

Perhaps it would be a good time to review WS rules: sleuthing family members or others that are not suspect is not allowed.

It certainly is a bind. People who do not believe DR to play any part really cannot get anywhere because any other possibilities cannot be identified.

It is too bad because I am sure for many of us, me included, other suspects may seem more reasonable.

He seems an odd choice, yet he is

 

[human]

Here is an adorable teacher who was a favorite and had been teaching 32 years.

Defies explanation

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/3...ged-with-molesting-23-children/#ixzz1l4SwFs00

 

[Shay]

Here is an adorable teacher who was a favorite and had been teaching 32 years.

Defies explanation

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/3...ged-with-molesting-23-children/#ixzz1l4SwFs00

<snip> Berndt has never been married, has no children and there's no indication of a previous arrest record, authorities said. <snip>

Interesting...

 

[Sasquatch321]

It certainly is a bind. People who do not believe DR to play any part really cannot get anywhere because any other possibilities cannot be identified.

It is too bad because I am sure for many of us, me included, other suspects may seem more reasonable.

He seems an odd choice, yet he is

He does seem an odd choice at first, but then

1. Never personally responded to Pattys letter
2. LE accused him of changing his stories
3. The shrine (videotapes, journal, newspaper clippings, pattys letter)
4. No Alibi
5. Slept through a helicopter hovering over his farm
6. Has secret information
7. LE named him a POI after 3 searches of his farm, lie detector tests, dna samples, and hypnotisms.

 

[cGorg]

Perhaps it would be a good time to review WS rules: sleuthing family members or others that are not suspect is not allowed.

I understand the rules. I wasn't meaning to implicate others that are not suspect in this case...only wondering about those persons who may have been witness to the happenings on the night of October 22, 1989....and wondering if that testimony was ever collected or published. Has anyone here seen testimony of the clerk(s) that worked the night of October 22, 1989 at Tom Thumb?

 

[cGorg]

Here is an adorable teacher who was a favorite and had been teaching 32 years.

Defies explanation

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/3...ged-with-molesting-23-children/#ixzz1l4SwFs00

so you are inferring what?

 

[cGorg]

I think it's a pretty safe assumption that LE thoroughly vetted the pizza guy back in 1989. They may not have had the technology that we have today, but that is just basic police work. The pizza person would have been the last person (besides Aaron and Trevor and the perp) to see Jacob alive.

The key word in your statement is "assumption". Not "fact". You're simply assuming that LE vetted the pizza guy but you have nothing to back that up. And, the LAST person besides Trevor + Aaron that we know of to have seen Jacob alive would be the clerk who worked at the Tom Thumb who rented the video and sold candy to Jacob, Trevor and Aaron.(I don't count the perp as the last person for obvious reasons)

 

[cGorg]

If LE interviewed a man from Japan that was at the Del Win, then LE checked the pizza delivery person. No doubt in my mind.

If the guy was a sex offender, then he would have really been in the hot seat

That's just your opinion, correct?

 

[bessie]

That's just your opinion, correct?

It's pretty obvious the other posters are stating opinions. So what's your point?

 

[Trino]

I understand the rules. I wasn't meaning to implicate others that are not suspect in this case...only wondering about those persons who may have been witness to the happenings on the night of October 22, 1989....and wondering if that testimony was ever collected or published. Has anyone here seen testimony of the clerk(s) that worked the night of October 22, 1989 at Tom Thumb?

Should we see it? Are we privileged to information collected by law enforcement?

 

[thenotebook]

The key word in your statement is "assumption". Not "fact". You're simply assuming that LE vetted the pizza guy but you have nothing to back that up. And, the LAST person besides Trevor + Aaron that we know of to have seen Jacob alive would be the clerk who worked at the Tom Thumb who rented the video and sold candy to Jacob, Trevor and Aaron.(I don't count the perp as the last person for obvious reasons)

I had forgotten about the Tom Thumb worker, so I stand corrected on that. And yes of course my statement is an assumption, not a fact. I'm not a member of LE and I'm not the pizza delivery guy, and most of us here are not. Aren't we all making assumptions and brainstorming theories?! Isn't that the point of this website?! Maybe you should call LE and ask if they interviewed the pizza guy if my "assumption" is making you so upset.

 

[human]

I understand the rules. I wasn't meaning to implicate others that are not suspect in this case...only wondering about those persons who may have been witness to the happenings on the night of October 22, 1989....and wondering if that testimony was ever collected or published. Has anyone here seen testimony of the clerk(s) that worked the night of October 22, 1989 at Tom Thumb?

There is a story by the J (modsnip) girl that was posted by Sher. It was in a paper from St. John's, I believe. I wonder if you put the J (modsnip) name in the search function here if it will show up

 

[shergal]

There is a story by the J (modsnip) girl that was posted by Sher. It was in a paper from St. John's, I believe. I wonder if you put the J (modsnip) name in the search function here if it will show up

I tried searching for clerk at Tom Thumb and found this old page from thread #4 which I just spent an hour reading. Lots of interesting old theories. Evidently at one time I had found the name of the college girl who was working at Tom Thumb, but it was removed - probably because we are not supposed to name those who aren't suspects.

Interesting reading though: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-118670-p-2.html

 

[ThePhantom]

Oh well.

 

[shergal]

This is from 2013, but I just saw this report of a white van with a black side door taking photos of kids in a park in the Twin Cities area. Not sure if they ever found the van or driver.

http://archive.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=1028043