MN - Jacob Wetterling, 11, St. Joseph, 22 Oct 1989 - #11

[ThePhantom]

"I'm late for an appointment at the Red Carpet Club" -- this is a nightclub, right? What kind of appointment might he have been referring to? Job interview, date, ?? And what a strange thing to say anyway. It's as though the perpetrator thinks his victim actually cares on some level.

Or do you think the "Red Carpet" statement was just a red herring?

 

[ThePhantom]

Though LE stated to the public that no incriminating evidence was found in the 2010 dig at DR's farm, they also said they had some items they were holding onto in the event future technology could be used to test them. What kind of future technology I wonder?

They must not have found anything incriminating on DR's computer, which is noteworthy. Even if it was washed, FBI most likely would have known how to recover data.

Curious about who thinks DR is the perp for Jacob, who is on the fence, and who doesn't believe DR was involved.

I still find it odd that so many sexual offenses against males occurred during that time period in that area. What's striking about it is that this isn't a highly populated area. It's not like parts of CA or NYC where one might expect to see several violent serial sex offenders at work at the same time. Patty Wetterling's question about what's going on in that area that is so hurtful to boys is spot on.

 

[ThePhantom]

Back to the sketch of Jared's perp wearing the baseball cap -- there are many men might resemble that sketch. But is Jared saying that DAH is the man he believes assaulted him?

And what kind of perpetrator says, "It's okay to talk about this, but if they can identify me I will kill you?"

It's okay to talk about this? That's like something a counselor might say to a client -- or a parent to a child or -- a rapist to a boy??

 

[Trackergd]

Back to the sketch of Jared's perp wearing the baseball cap -- there are many men might resemble that sketch. But is Jared saying that DAH is the man he believes assaulted him?

And what kind of perpetrator says, "It's okay to talk about this, but if they can identify me I will kill you?"

It's okay to talk about this? That's like something a counselor might say to a client -- or a parent to a child or -- a rapist to a boy??

RBBM

I can't wrap my mind around anyone who has abducted a child saying that. Only an idiot would think that a child (or an adult for that matter) would not communicate in detail to LE what their abductor looked like and any other applicable information. To me, that speaks of someone not living in reality.

 

[Sasquatch321]

RBBM

I can't wrap my mind around anyone who has abducted a child saying that. Only an idiot would think that a child (or an adult for that matter) would not communicate in detail to LE what their abductor looked like and any other applicable information. To me, that speaks of someone not living in reality.

DAH is freshly out of jail and with a stolen police scanner, possibly the gun too. He returns to Hawick after being off the map for awhile and borrows his grandmas or anyones Chevy Celebrity and goes out looking for drugs, he comes up empty, there is jared walking down the street in the dark, bingo imo.

 

[ThePhantom]

I could see that, Sasquatch. Now, were they able to obtain DNA in Jared's case and then able to match it with DAH? (I don't know if they ever obtained DNA from DAH, but I'm assuming they did?)

 

[ThePhantom]

I believe I heard or saw this -- but I can't get it out of my mind -- that there were footsteps 120 feet up DR's driveway? Can someone confirm?

 

[Sasquatch321]

I believe I heard or saw this -- but I can't get it out of my mind -- that there were footsteps 120 feet up DR's driveway? Can someone confirm?

Jacobs last footprint is found down that gravel driveway about 40 yards, yes. If there is any info on perp footprints let me know.

 

[Sasquatch321]

The appointment at the Red Carpet is a meeting point for a drug deal. Was Dah incarcerated in the St. Cloud Jail? Some old bunkmate from jail there brought DAH back to St. Cloud to meet at the Red Carpet. imo.

 

[ThePhantom]

So, conceivably, we could be talking about two separate perpetrators -- one who was operating in the Paynesville area (DAH), and a "random" event that coincided in that general time frame (Jacob).

Does LE still believe Jared and Jacob's cases are connected?

 

[Sasquatch321]

So, conceivably, we could be talking about two separate perpetrators -- one who was operating in the Paynesville area (DAH), and a "random" event that coincided in that general time frame (Jacob).

Does LE still believe Jared and Jacob's cases are connected?

For sure, they are leaving that option open but it doesn't say they in fact are yet.

 

[JerseyJo]

Sounds to me almost like the perp was trying impress Jared, by asking him if he liked the police scanner.

Also the statement that the perp was late for an appointment at the Red Carpet, sounds like something someone might say to someone on a date that they wanted to cut short.

Jared's perp sounds delusional to me.

 

[JerseyJo]

Did DAH work or have any type of a job during the time period of Jared and Jacobs abduction? Sorry if this info has been discussed previously.

 

[Sasquatch321]

This is just making too much sense right now. Dah is in Hawick and arranges a drug deal in st cloud later that night. Without drugs for the time being he is wanderless and needs a fix. He leaves Hawick early, on the way to st cloud you then have to go through cold spring. Now this guy is already convicted for what we are looking for. How many other people could it be at that time, not many.

He will never admit to Jared in fear of going down for jacob.

 

[puppyraiser]

Though LE stated to the public that no incriminating evidence was found in the 2010 dig at DR's farm, they also said they had some items they were holding onto in the event future technology could be used to test them. What kind of future technology I wonder?

They must not have found anything incriminating on DR's computer, which is noteworthy. Even if it was washed, FBI most likely would have known how to recover data.

Curious about who thinks DR is the perp for Jacob, who is on the fence, and who doesn't believe DR was involved.

I still find it odd that so many sexual offenses against males occurred during that time period in that area. What's striking about it is that this isn't a highly populated area. It's not like parts of CA or NYC where one might expect to see several violent serial sex offenders at work at the same time. Patty Wetterling's question about what's going on in that area that is so hurtful to boys is spot on.

It would be interesting to see if another cluster of offenses occurred in another part of the country shortly before or after the incidents involving Jacob, Jared and the other boys. If so, who/what is the common denominator?

 

[ELOCsoul]

Did DAH work or have any type of a job during the time period of Jared and Jacobs abduction? Sorry if this info has been discussed previously.

I don't know steady he was working at that time, but in January he was working at the Kay potato farm near Brooten.

 

[Jbrown324320]

sasquatch, do you have a link to the article that indicates this? I don't recall hearing about it. This may mean that the perp is really stunted in emotional growth and wants to impress a fellow child. I know most victims of child sexual assault are stunted emotionally, but this one was obvious.

Jareds perp showed him the portable police scanner and said "do you like this?" as if he's still amazed by it himself, it's stolen, imo.

 

[Jbrown324320]

In fact Human, he was non-compliant because according to the court site, he was charged with possession of contraband articles in June of 1988. Isn't that only for prisoners? I believe he was to serve his sentence concurrent and he probably received credit for time served like another poster said. I don't know his release date, but the date his original conviction was filed was Oct 1987. He had to have been arrested around that time, convicted for a 180 days for the first conviction, a year for the second, contraband was for 300 days. He could have been in for over two years and he could have been released after a year. It doesn't indicate release dates.

DAH did pay $50 towards his court fines in November of 1988. He may have been out by then or he may not have been out.

Even if he got time off for good behavior, I bet he would be in jail in Jan.

If you read his reports, though, it does not seem like he would have good behavior. He seems to be noncompliant.

Whatever the case may be, for some reason, LE dismissed him for Jacob. He certainly sounds like an excellent choice for a perp.

If LE is so corrupt as to avoid the Catholic church, then certainly DAH would have been an excellent scape goat.

But he isn't the chosen one.

 

[Jbrown324320]

and I believe he was a truck driver and farm laborer.

I don't know steady he was working at that time, but in January he was working at the Kay potato farm near Brooten.

 

[Jbrown324320]

it depends on what type of offense. If it is a stranger snatch and grab, a violent offense toward a boy or a girl, if it was done by grooming over a long period of time. there were all sorts of predators operating in the area .

It would be interesting to see if another cluster of offenses occurred in another part of the country shortly before or after the incidents involving Jacob, Jared and the other boys. If so, who/what is the common denominator?