MN - Jacob Wetterling, 11, St. Joseph, 22 Oct 1989 - #15

[thenotebook]

I still don't understand why Kevin didn't come forward right away. He knew how high profile this case was and how desperate everyone was to solve it. Everyone knew they were looking for a car. Even if he really did speak with LE that night, as he claims, why wouldn't he still follow up a few days/weeks later and say "Hey, just re-confirming that I was at the scene, here is what my car looks like, here is what a saw, etc".

If he truly was innocent and had nothing to hide, he should have/could have come forward right away. What a waste of everyone's time (and possibly Jacob's fate in the balance) if his tracks are truly the ones they were looking for.

 

[BethAnn777]

Do we know who "Kevin" really is?

 

[human]

Sorry, but I can scoff since LE has had the items for 5 yrs. Waiting for technology? IMO they have no idea.

Bessie posted articles where they have found criminals after 30 years. So 5 years is nothing

 

[Cappuccino]

Bessie posted articles where they have found criminals after 30 years. So 5 years is nothing

I never heard of anybody being a POI for 30 years before they were caught. I agree with Trino, if they've found nothing on DR after 5 years of looking, they don't have any idea.

 

[human]

DR would have not had that much time. Whoever took Jacob took him somewhere where he was never found.

He had hours after the abduction and days until his house was searched. So many places to hide a child.
Mayb even a cedar chest

 

[human]

I never heard of anybody being a POI for 30 years before they were caught. I agree with Trino, if they've found nothing on DR after 5 years of looking, they don't have any idea.

Just yesterday a child named Barway was found murdered in MN. His father has been arrested.

LE said Barway was with someone he knew. LE knew plenty. They were waiting for the body to show up in the river. People were even fundd raising and giving money to the arrested murderer.

Just because we do not know, does not mean LE doesn't have a ton of info. Enough to name a POI but not enough to arrest.

Would you like LE to manufacture evidence ?

 

[human]

Do we know who "Kevin" really is?

Yes, many people know who he is.

 

[human]

Neighbor kidnaps him takes him into his house and murders him? Zero evidence is found. Not possible.

Why is it not possible? And LE seems to feel they have evidence. We just do not know what it is.

 

[Cappuccino]

Just yesterday a child named Barway was found murdered in MN. His father has been arrested.

LE said Barway was with someone he knew. LE knew plenty. They were waiting for the body to show up in the river. People were even fundd raising and giving money to the arrested murderer.

Just because we do not know, does not mean LE doesn't have a ton of info. Enough to name a POI but not enough to arrest.

Would you like LE to manufacture evidence ?

No, I'd like people to stop assuming that the police must know all kinds of secret information about someone when there's no evidence of any such thing. Sometimes, when police don't have enough to arrest a POI its because they're focussed on the wrong person.

 

[livstabler]

No, I'd like people to stop assuming that the police must know all kinds of secret information about someone when there's no evidence of any such thing. Sometimes, when police don't have enough to arrest a POI its because they're focussed on the wrong person.

...and sometimes they have evidence, but not enough to convict (without a body), so they are forced to wait. What if he got off because there's no body, and they find one later, but can't try him again??? Without JW, it's pretty hard to charge/convict anyone. It's been done before, sure, but they're obviously not interested in a quick and sloppy close attempt when PW mostly just wants answers.

 

[Cappuccino]

...and sometimes they have evidence, but not enough to convict (without a body), so they are forced to wait. What if he got off because there's no body, and they find one later, but can't try him again??? Without JW, it's pretty hard to charge/convict anyone. It's been done before, sure, but they're obviously not interested in a quick and sloppy close attempt when PW mostly just wants answers.

Pure supposition. We know nothing that justifies accusing DR, so I suggest we avoid falling into the trap of tunnel vision about him. This guy has been a teacher for 30 odd years and despite being named as a POI in a child abduction case, none of his pupils, colleagues or employers have a bad word to say about him. Those people know him better than internet posters here, so that counts for something.

 

[livstabler]

Pure supposition. We know nothing that justifies accusing DR, so I suggest we avoid falling into the trap of tunnel vision about him. This guy has been a teacher for 30 odd years and despite being named as a POI in a child abduction case, none of his pupils, colleagues or employers have a bad word to say about him. Those people know him better than internet posters here, so that counts for something.

Well, unless you know and have spoken to every pupil, colleague and employer he's had for the last 30 years, and have access to all LE's evidence or lack thereof, I'd guess your statement is supposition as well?

 

[Cappuccino]

Well, unless you know and have spoken to every pupil, colleague and employer he's had for the last 30 years, and have access to all LE's evidence or lack thereof, I'd guess your statement is supposition as well?

A grown man of the type who snatches young boys isn't going to work around children for 30 years and not do anything that would lead to a complaint. None of his pupils or their parents have accused him of anything, and his employers are still happy to employ him. As for LE, their evidence is obviously not all that, otherwise he'd have been arrested.

 

[Sasquatch321]

A grown man of the type who snatches young boys isn't going to work around children for 30 years and not do anything that would lead to a complaint. None of his pupils or their parents have accused him of anything, and his employers are still happy to employ him. As for LE, their evidence is obviously not all that, otherwise he'd have been arrested.

Have they nerded out with facts surrounding him? What if they found out their beloved teacher went to sleep before helping Jacob?

 

[Cappuccino]

Have they nerded out with facts surrounding him? What if they found out their beloved teacher went to sleep before helping Jacob?

What if they did? That's not a crime.

These threads always go into a cul de sac when people start arguing about DR, so I'm out for the time being. I'll come back when the discussion returns to the facts.

 

[Trino]

...and sometimes they have evidence, but not enough to convict (without a body), so they are forced to wait. What if he got off because there's no body, and they find one later, but can't try him again??? Without JW, it's pretty hard to charge/convict anyone. It's been done before, sure, but they're obviously not interested in a quick and sloppy close attempt when PW mostly just wants answers.

A QUICK answer? It's been 26 years! Not exactly quick, eh?

 

[human]

Pure supposition. We know nothing that justifies accusing DR, so I suggest we avoid falling into the trap of tunnel vision about him. This guy has been a teacher for 30 odd years and despite being named as a POI in a child abduction case, none of his pupils, colleagues or employers have a bad word to say about him. Those people know him better than internet posters here, so that counts for something.

And we know this how!

 

[human]

A grown man of the type who snatches young boys isn't going to work around children for 30 years and not do anything that would lead to a complaint. None of his pupils or their parents have accused him of anything, and his employers are still happy to employ him. As for LE, their evidence is obviously not all that, otherwise he'd have been arrested.

And we know this how?

 

[bucshunter]

And we know this how?

Seems like common sense don't you think?

 

[cGorg]

What if they did? That's not a crime.

These threads always go into a cul de sac when people start arguing about DR, so I'm out for the time being. I'll come back when the discussion returns to the facts.

Cappuccino...here's a fact...maybe not a fact in the sense you meant 'facts'....but it is a fact nonetheless as it has transpired, and was recorded on film. DR stated on camera that he is 100% certain that the afternoon driver is the kidnapper. He also stated via Joy's blog that he saw a small, dark car with headlights close together. These are 'facts'....statements of facts-at least according to DR. So if these 'facts' are true...then:
1. The abductor made 2 appearances on the scene, one in the afternoon as the crazy driver, and one in the late evening as the abductor-in a different vehicle.
2. The abductor had prior knowledge, hence the first trip through the farmstead scouting the land, and the second trip knowing the boys would be making the trek to the TT.
3. LE missed the tire tracks of the 2 vehicles(afternoon + evening)...but not Kevin's tire tracks.

I'm not saying 1,2,3 are 'facts'.....but they are deductions...based upon statements of facts by DR. If DR's statements regarding the 2 vehicles he witnessed are true.....then those statements need to be supported by some plausible explanations of how they could be true. I'm sure posters here can think of some plausible explanations....and that is my point...if posters believe that there were indeed 2 cars witnessed that evening by DR, then offer some speculations as to this plausibility.