MN - Jacob Wetterling, 11, St. Joseph, 22 Oct 1989 - #16

[bucshunter]

That is weak when you compare this thinking along with BTK, Ted Bundy, and Jerry Sandusky. All loved, innocent men, right?

Did they just do it once and go back to their everyday life? Yes they were all upstanding folks like dr. That dog won't hunt

 

[Sasquatch321]

I get what you are saying but you are wrong about how the local community feels. Everyone I've spoken with in that area believes "the guy on the farm" did it.

Yup, it is very true. Except for this one guy I work with, who doesn't know DR is actually a poi still, who thinks there was no evidence found but something is in the lab and his items aren't returned. He says "I think he was sold into a child sex ring"

 

[bucshunter]

Tbh I think the investigation has moved on from dr

 

[ELOCsoul]

DR did go for a jog in "late afternoon" - whatever time that would be - between 4 pm and 6 pm, maybe? Or that's what he says anyway. The Polka Fest at the Del-Win went until 10 pm.

"As early afternoon yields to late afternoon, Dan decides to take a break from his typing and go for a jog. (Note, Dan is an avid runner and still participates in several races each year.) He takes off through the back fields and heads toward the Del-Win Ballroom which is located immediately north and west of his property. (In those days, the neighborhood that existed just north of Dan’s property was not there; it was all woods at that time.) There was a Polka Fest taking place at the Del-Win that day, and the place was packed.
After running through the Del-Win parking lot and taking note of the Polka Fest, now in full swing, Dan cuts back over to 91st Avenue and heads toward home. He remembers stopping at the farm mailbox and picking up the paper, then continuing down the driveway toward his house.
After 23 years, Dan is a bit vague on what time he returned from his jog, but he assumes he showered and probably made something to eat for supper before returning to his typing. At any rate, it’s dark out when he hears his dog, Smokey, start to bark (Smokey is an outside dog). The window is still open, and Dan hears a car coming up his driveway. He shuts off his light so he can see who it is. He’s a little unnerved, wondering if it’s the same car he saw earlier in the day."
(From sasquatch's link on post #471)

For me personally, the oddest thing about DRs statements here are about picking up the paper by the mailbox. It's like he is providing an explanation for being there by the mailbox. He doesn't need to explain it, he lives there, of course his scent and footprints would be expected to be found there. Why mention this detail? It's odd to me that he remembers this, but doesn't know if it's a real memory about the person in the passenger seat, or if he remembered via hypnosis? He has said the hypnosis session was stressful, that he tried very hard to remember details. Is that possible...to try very hard under hypnosis??

 

[Jewelia]

DR is definitely strange, but again, there's nothing on him. Think about this: LE was more than willing to have this big dog and pony show...digging up the property of DRs parents, and toss up their house, but say they can't discuss the investigation. I understand if there's something very incriminating found, but I think we'd know by now.

They know who did it.....IMO.

He doesn't even fit the description the boys gave, and his voice sounds nothing like what was said about the voice of the perp. Of course, voices can be disguised.

The only thing I think he's stupid for is not hiring an attorney. If he does hire an attorney, I hope it's not anywhere near that area; an attorney from another part of the state, or an attorney licensed in that state, but living in another.

I do not think DR is on the radar anymore....or just a small blip on the radar.

 

[human]

Respectfully, to me it's a stretch and I used to run half marathons on a regular basis. Secondly, I don't remember (please correct me if I am in error) anything indicating he had been out for a run that evening, on the contrary, that he had been in the house for the evening. He would not have known the flashlights were from children from the house, and I would wonder how he saw the flashlights through the thick woods behind the house.

To run three blocks takes how long????? 5 minutes if you are really really slow. That is 1/4 of a mile. A twenty minute walking mile is considered slow.

There is a witness to what he was doing. Oh, it is he who said what he was doing

 

[human]

I've brought this up before, but no one ever commented on my thinking, so I'll do it again.

Could the "medical cop" have been some kind of county or state health department official with police/arrest powers?

Not in Minnesota

 

[human]

I have seen on other threads how new posters are welcomed. I have not really seen it done on this one, so welcome to Emeraldine and Todd? Did I spell those right?

:loveyou:

 

[Wisdom]

DR is definitely strange, but again, there's nothing on him. Think about this: LE was more than willing to have this big dog and only show...digging up the property of DRs parents, and toss up their house, but say they can't discuss the investigation. I understand if there's something very incriminating found, but I think we'd know by now.

They know who did it.....IMO.

He doesn't even fit the description the boys gave, and his voice sounds nothing like what was said about the voice of the perp. Of course, voices can be disguised.

The only thing I think he's stupid for is not hiring an attorney. If he does hire an attorney, I hope it's not anywhere near that area; an attorney from another part of the state, or an attorney licensed in that state, but living in another.

I do not think DR is on the radar anymore....or just a small blip on the radar.

Completely wrong about DR not being on LE's radar anymore. In passing along information to LE it's very easy to pick up on the context of who they enjoy getting information on. That's all I'll say on that subject.

 

[Wisdom]

I found it very interesting that the latest John Walsh "The Hunt" cnn special on this abduction didn't focus on dr at all. Very interesting.

I found it very interesting also but not in the way that you did. I actually expected the show to go the route it did knowing who was involved in much of the process.

 

[chaplain1]

Tbh I think the investigation has moved on from dr

I respect your opinion. What makes you say this?

 

[Wisdom]

For me personally, the oddest thing about DRs statements here are about picking up the paper by the mailbox. It's like he is providing an explanation for being there by the mailbox. He doesn't need to explain it, he lives there, of course his scent and footprints would be expected to be found there. Why mention this detail? It's odd to me that he remembers this, but doesn't know if it's a real memory about the person in the passenger seat, or if he remembered via hypnosis? He has said the hypnosis session was stressful, that he tried very hard to remember details. Is that possible...to try very hard under hypnosis??

Agree 100%

:goodpost:

 

[bucshunter]

I respect your opinion. What makes you say this?

Thank you, no mention of him in the recent program, no recent activity involving him, no movement in this case at all. He is still teaching children in the same town. Seems to be at a dead stop for now.

 

[Sasquatch321]

DR is definitely strange, but again, there's nothing on him. Think about this: LE was more than willing to have this big dog and only show...digging up the property of DRs parents, and toss up their house, but say they can't discuss the investigation. I understand if there's something very incriminating found, but I think we'd know by now.

They know who did it.....IMO.

He doesn't even fit the description the boys gave, and his voice sounds nothing like what was said about the voice of the perp. Of course, voices can be disguised.

The only thing I think he's stupid for is not hiring an attorney. If he does hire an attorney, I hope it's not anywhere near that area; an attorney from another part of the state, or an attorney licensed in that state, but living in another.

I do not think DR is on the radar anymore....or just a small blip on the radar.

I will be with you on December 31, 2015, if nothing has happened by then.

 

[ELOCsoul]

Completely wrong about DR not being on LE's radar anymore. In passing along information to LE it's very easy to pick up on the context of who they enjoy getting information on. That's all I'll say on that subject.

My experience has been similar. There have been subtle cues as to where their interest lies with respect to leads sent in.

 

[thenotebook]

If LE honestly thought DR did it, they would have found something of substance in 2010 and he'd be trialed and jailed by now. They wouldn't let him continue teaching students and roam the community. They've had 25 years to arrest him, and they've never done so. They haven't even arrested and released him (unlike SOMEONE ELSE...hmmm)

Whomever does solve this case will be a hero in MN. If they had enough on DR they would have arrested him years ago.

 

[Sasquatch321]

If LE honestly thought DR did it, they would have found something of substance in 2010 and he'd be trialed and jailed by now. They wouldn't let him continue teaching students and roam the community. They've had 25 years to arrest him, and they've never done so. They haven't even arrested and released him (unlike SOMEONE ELSE...hmmm)

Whomever does solve this case will be a hero in MN. If they had enough on DR they would have arrested him years ago.

What if they have positively identified the correct dna on the chest, but don't have a body? And DR isn't talking. No confession, no body, no conviction. But when time runs out, you offer that evidence out to the public.

 

[bucshunter]

My experience has been similar. There have been subtle cues as to where their interest lies with respect to leads sent in.

Oh they wish they could pin it on him

 

[human]

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If LE honestly thought DR did it, they would have found something of substance in 2010 and he'd be trialed and jailed by now. They wouldn't let him continue teaching students and roam the community. They've had 25 years to arrest him, and they've never done so. They haven't even arrested and released him (unlike SOMEONE ELSE...hmmm)

Whomever does solve this case will be a hero in MN. If they had enough on DR they would have arrested him years ago.

You are right. They do not have enough to arrest him or anyone else.

Luckliy, we live in a country where the police usually do not manufacture evidence. And that is a good thing. They cannot fire him without cause. And suspicion is not cause,

As we know from cases on here, LE often knows who did it, but they do not have enough to arrest. Sometimes miracles happpen

 

[chaplain1]

What if they have positively identified the correct dna on the chest, but don't have a body? And DR isn't talking. No confession, no body, no conviction. But when time runs out, you offer that evidence out to the public.

If they found dna, he'd have an attorney