Deceased/Not Found MN - Jessica Jo Marshik, 36, apt door found ajar, Minneapolis, 14 Dec 2021

  • #181
From her FB dated today: Finding Jessica Marshik | Facebook

"We want to thank everyone for their support and help with trying to bring Jessica home. We regret to inform everyone that Jessica’s family received definitive evidence from police that Jessica should unfortunately be presumed no longer with us.
At this time we cannot share any information about Jessica’s presumed death, out of respect for her family’s request for privacy."

I haven't been able to check on cases here lately . . . I'm so very, very sad to see this.
 
  • #182
Thank you. She was definitely like family to me--the sister I never had. I totally respect her family's grieving process and agree that the public isn't "owed" anything. But I also sincerely hope that her family will feel comfortable revealing what happened--at least to those of us close to Jessica--so we can get some closure. If anyone in her family is reading this, we're still here for you... Jessica is so loved by so many, and that will never change.

{{{HUGS}}} to you and to @silsby .
 
  • #183
Just saw that the thread title changed :( So sorry to all who loved her.
 
  • #184
Nobody talking about it = committed suicide
 
  • #185
Nobody talking about it = committed suicide

With all due respect, nobody talking can equal lots of things like accident, accidental overdose, self harm, self-destructive habits or more. This family has asked for space and to not discuss. I am willing to give them that space to grieve and be together to hold her in their hearts. Lots of issues come into play when a person dies and not everyone can see things from a cut and dried perspective. They lost a loved one and probably don't really understand why no matter how she left this earth.
 
  • #186
Nobody talking about it = committed suicide

While self-harm is possible in this case, it’s not the only conclusion. As @kaen stated above there are many other possibilities for why the family has not revealed more information publicly (yet)

In fact, often LE makes some sort of “No danger to the public” statement in cases of self-harm, which we don’t see here.
 
  • #187
I wish we knew what happened to Jessica.

First and foremost, I respect her loved ones' right to mourn in private, and if they choose never to disclose what happened to her, I fully understand that. We aren't owed anything.

And yet I still yearn to know what happened, and why. While I didn't know Jessica personally, we were friends on FB (we ran in the same activism circles), and we graduated from the same high school (she was a few years older than me).

From what I knew of her, Jessica was an activist through and through. I may be projecting my own feelings onto her, but I can't help but wonder if we could best honor Jessica's life by raising awareness about whatever caused her demise.

Minneapolis is currently in the throes of yet another "officer-involved" shooting, and I bet Jessica would be speaking out loud and clear if she were here. I just wish we had the opportunity to speak out about whatever led to the loss of her life.

*My personal opinion only*.
 
  • #188
Because they used the phrase “presumed no longer with us” I still have some hope that she may be alive. There are certainly cases where that presumption turned out to be wrong.
 
  • #189
Because they used the phrase “presumed no longer with us” I still have some hope that she may be alive. There are certainly cases where that presumption turned out to be wrong.

But they also used the phrase "definitive evidence" :/
 
  • #190
Because they used the phrase I still have some hope that she may be alive. There are certainly cases where that presumption turned out to be wrong.
Because they used the phrase “presumed no longer with us” I still have some hope that she may be alive. There are certainly cases where that presumption turned out to be wrong.


It’s always good to have hope!! My heart goes out to everyone that was close to Jessica! I didn’t know Jessica but stand for many of the causes that she stood for! It saddens me that a community that needs more voices lost such a strong one.

I’m not clear on who exactly used the phrase “presumed no longer with us”. Did that come from her family or LE?
In many states, a missing person is “presumed to be deceased” after seven years. This was not the wording used in this case but they did say “definitive evidence” which to me changes the meaning of the word “presumed” in this case. Unfortunately. It was mentioned up thread that maybe there was “video of her going into a river” insinuating suicide. Maybe that was the case? Maybe a letter was found? In another case that I read about it was said to be “no threat to the public” because the suspect was arrested for another crime and was in custody and confessed to being connected to Jessica.
 
  • #191
I’m not clear on who exactly used the phrase “presumed no longer with us”. Did that come from her family or LE?

It came from a friend speaking via the Facebook page on behalf of the family, who received the information from LE.

I also found a post about the case on the Minnesota United page, which shared the same message on the Finding Jessica Marshik page, but also stated with permission from the family that Jessica has been found deceased.
 
  • #192
It came from a friend speaking via the Facebook page on behalf of the family, who received the information from LE.

I also found a post about the case on the Minnesota United page, which shared the same message on the Finding Jessica Marshik page, but also stated with permission from the family that Jessica has been found deceased.
Thank you for your response! Could you please site where they say that she has been deceased? I have not seen that.
 
  • #193
Thank you for your response! Could you please site where they say that she has been deceased? I have not seen that.

I included the link in my previous post, you just need to click on 'Minnesota United.' The statement is right at the top.
 
  • #194
In other cases where this kind of language was used, it indicated things like significant blood evidence, partial remains, photo evidence or otherwise that allowed LE to determine the subject was definitely deceased without having actually recovered the body.
 
  • #195
Bumping!

When I search Jessicas' name in "news" I'm not getting any updates. Is there any new info about what happened to Jessica? Concerning that a single working female living alone could be missing from her apartment only to be deemed as "no longer with us".

Does this mean LE are finished with looking or?? What happened?
 
  • #196
Does this mean LE are finished with looking or?? What happened?
We may never know the details. IMO it's likely LE has sufficient evidence, of some kind, to indicate Jessica is deceased, and has shared that evidence with her family. JMO.

Perhaps her family will release a statement at some point and we'll know more about what happened in Jessica's case.
 
  • #197
We may never know the details. IMO it's likely LE has sufficient evidence, of some kind, to indicate Jessica is deceased, and has shared that evidence with her family. JMO.

Perhaps her family will release a statement at some point and we'll know more about what happened in Jessica's case.

I'm assuming and hopeful that LE have information that we will never be privy to and that they are acting on it.

IMO I just find it odd that there are other current similar cases in which LE have shared much more information. Not that sharing with the public has done much to help the progress of those cases but my point is about how little has been shared in Jessicas case. IMHO.

In all cases one fact is that the general public are not entitled to know anything unless public safety is at risk.

Maybe we will get a statement or update soon.
 
  • #198
In all cases one fact is that the general public are not entitled to know anything unless public safety is at risk.
I agree, the public has no "right" to know the circumstances, unless whatever happened poses a risk to others. Neither LE or Jessica's family has any obligation to share any information.
 
  • #199
I agree, the public has no "right" to know the circumstances, unless whatever happened poses a risk to others. Neither LE or Jessica's family has any obligation to share any information.

It feels off that nothing is being shared with some of her closest friends. You know, the ones who were there for her when her family wasn’t. And the FB page is very “I know the details but THE FAMILY ALWAYS COMES FIRST so I won’t tell you” when it comes to literally everything, including a memorial for Jess. It’s pretty upsetting that people who may not have been the closest to her are getting then withholding information from those who were.
 
  • #200
It feels off that nothing is being shared with some of her closest friends. You know, the ones who were there for her when her family wasn’t. And the FB page is very “I know the details but THE FAMILY ALWAYS COMES FIRST so I won’t tell you” when it comes to literally everything, including a memorial for Jess. It’s pretty upsetting that people who may not have been the closest to her are getting then withholding information from those who were.
I agree with you! The FB page is very “tight lipped”! Could you reach out to her family personally? As a concerned friend? I don’t think it’s strange for friends to reach out to family to offer condolences and ask about arrangements. Especially after this much time has passed!
 

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