MN MN - Joshua Guimond, 20, Collegeville, 9 Nov 2002

[Jbrown324320]

this is not normal.

 

[human]

What does ELOC stand for?

ELOC researched Jacob Wetterling and what he found led to the killer

 

[Jbrown324320]

SJU has a lot of land and cabins in MN to bury someone. They also have property in the Carribean. there was a news story out last week about the Catholic Church using Carribean bank accounts for offshore tax accounts to skirt taxes. https://www.usnews.com/news/busines...-order-admits-offshore-holdings-in-tax-havens

 

[Trino]

Can't get this off my mind...

What if J left the party because he was feeling the effects of too much alcohol, which might explain why he didn't excuse himself/say goodbye. On the way back to his room suppose he was throwing up as a car approached, the driver offering him a ride back to his room. J accepts, the driver pulls a gun, takes J off campus, and he is not seen again. Around SJU there are acres of vacant land dotted with small bodies of water where there is minimal chance a body would be discovered.

 

[Sasquatch321]

Can't get this off my mind...

What if J left the party because he was feeling the effects of too much alcohol, which might explain why he didn't excuse himself/say goodbye. On the way back to his room suppose he was throwing up as a car approached, the driver offering him a ride back to his room. J accepts, the driver pulls a gun, takes J off campus, and he is not seen again. Around SJU there are acres of vacant land dotted with small bodies of water where there is minimal chance a body would be discovered.

What if the driver was Daniel Heinrich, out cruising the area at night again.

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[Jbrown324320]

Trino, that very well could be a plausible scenario. Sas, Josh may have been a little older than Heinrich's usual victim, but anything is possible. I really think that SJU emails are all monitored. When I emailed the Abbey when Bruce W died, I was emailing with one priest asking him how he died. We had a few back and forth emails and when I asked if his injuries sounded like they were due to homicide, then another priest commented on the email said he should stop talking. And the family said some of Josh's emails in his inbox were deleted. This could have been done by the person who accessed his account after he went missing or by an administrator.

 

[Sasquatch321]

Trino, that very well could be a plausible scenario. Sas, Josh may have been a little older than Heinrich's usual victim, but anything is possible. I really think that SJU emails are all monitored. When I emailed the Abbey when Bruce W died, I was emailing with one priest asking him how he died. We had a few back and forth emails and when I asked if his injuries sounded like they were due to homicide, then another priest commented on the email said he should stop talking. And the family said some of Josh's emails in his inbox were deleted. This could have been done by the person who accessed his account after he went missing or by an administrator.

I'm still convinced that the details of Bruce W's death are fabricated.

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[Jbrown324320]

Trino, I can see Josh getting into a car of a priest without a gun. We are taught that priests are "men of god" and trustworthy. Especially if they worked on campus. They would be in a position of power.

 

[Jbrown324320]

Sas, I don't know of anyone who has died after slipping on blood from a bloody nose. And I do not know of anyone who has ever cracked their skull and rib puncturing a lung or internal organ after an accidental fall. And I watch a lot of medical shows.

 

[Sasquatch321]

Sas, I don't know of anyone who has died after slipping on blood from a bloody nose. And I do not know of anyone who has ever cracked their skull and rib puncturing a lung or internal organ after an accidental fall. And I watch a lot of medical shows.

I agree but my first thought in defense I guess is he is a monk and he is an old monk. How fragile was he? Monks dont work out or eat the same as everyday people. Like I also said, no man deserves to live the life demands of a monk.

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[Jbrown324320]

SAS, he was a regular jogger who ate healthy food and was in his early 60's. I don't want to get too far off the topic of Josh. But it is highly suspicious

 

[Sasquatch321]

SAS, he was a regular jogger who ate healthy food and was in his early 60's. I don't want to get too far off the topic of Josh. But it is highly suspicious

If these monks lead such a good active and healthy life, why are they having orgies together and preying on and molesting children? Does regular jogging contribute to faster bone degeneration?

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[Trino]

What if the driver was Daniel Heinrich, out cruising the area at night again.

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The same thought has entered my mind. Would DH have abducted/killed only once, or would he have trolled again? I'm glad the discussion is less central to WHERE with J and more central to WHO with J. The WHERE could be a needle in a haystack, where WHO, if interviewed/interrogated might produce results. Remember JW's body was found only after interrogation. Has DH been asked about J?

 

[Sasquatch321]

The same thought has entered my mind. Would DH have abducted/killed only once, or would he have trolled again? I'm glad the discussion is less central to WHERE with J and more central to WHO with J. The WHERE could be a needle in a haystack, where WHO, if interviewed/interrogated might produce results. Remember JW's body was found only after interrogation. Has DH been asked about J?

What I know is I became aware of this case because of the Wetterling case. And that was because there were even a couple sites saying these two cases may be connected, considering they were only six miles apart. They were also framing Rassier into both.

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[dotr]

On a Saturday night one would expect the students to be partying, those who might prey on students count on it, imo. and wait for a " gazelle " to be separated from the party flock to pounce.
Could be any one of the staff or students, but could also be a visiting guest or an intruder, imo speculation.

 

[Sasquatch321]

I went and saw "My Friend Dahmer" last night. It said the best way to solve a cold case is to keep it in the public eye. Well when people come here and ask hard questions and get no answers, it is very frustrating. Has LE interviewed a single monk in this case?

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[Ozoner]

I went and saw "My Friend Dahmer" last night. It said the best way to solve a cold case is to keep it in the public eye. Well when people come here and ask hard questions and get no answers, it is very frustrating. Has LE interviewed a single monk in this case?

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Let's assume the answer is no. Why would they, unless evidence points toward a specific monk?

 

[Sasquatch321]

Let's assume the answer is no. Why would they, unless evidence points toward a specific monk?

Because of their abuse. And because there was guardian monks overwatching the buildings that night. Did they see anything? Can they quickly rule them out?

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[Ozoner]

Because of their abuse. And because there was guardian monks overwatching the buildings that night. Did they see anything? Can they quickly rule them out?

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Would there have been a monk overseeing each dorm directly, i.e. signing people in and out? Unfortunately, they may have made up their minds early on that he simply got drunk and fell into a body of water, so they may not have been very proactive about conducting interviews.

 

[Sasquatch321]

Would there have been a monk overseeing each dorm directly, i.e. signing people in and out? Unfortunately, they may have made up their minds early on that he simply got drunk and fell into a body of water, so they may not have been very proactive about conducting interviews.

Exactly, according to the father that is what happened. And now we have an investigator who says he wouldn't change anything about ehat they did early on. Did they talk to everyone they should have? Or are the monks too privy and important for that?

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