MN - Morgan Evenson, 27, survives brutal knife attack, Minneapolis, 13 Dec 2017

[Karinna]

Police are testing what evidence they have. Might take awhile.

“Evenson said she got a very clear look at the suspect as she struggled with him for a few minutes. She describes him as a thin, Somali man in his early twenties with a slight accent and short, afro-style hair.

“Minneapolis police are increasing their patrols in the area and are awaiting results from forensic testing.”

http://www.fox9.com/news/weeks-later-minneapolis-police-still-seeking-suspect-in-uptown-stabbing

Thanks for an update and good to know LE are increasing their patrols in the area.

 

[K_Z]

A detailed description was in fact given by the witness/victim and police shared it in the media.

From the first post/link in this thread: “Police Sgt. Darcy Horn said Thursday that they are still looking for the man, described as being of Somali ethnicity, in his early 20s, about 5 feet 7 inches tall, with a slender build and short hair with a slight Afro style on top. At the time of the attack he was wearing an Army green colored jacket and gray stone washed jeans.”

BBM. Please note that that description in the link referenced is from an article published January 4th. The attack happened December 13.

Here's a timeline:

The first media coverage of the attack was December 17, 4 days AFTER the attack, in the Star Tribune.

http://kstp.com/news/woman-survives-late-night-stabbing-attack-in-uptown-minneapolis-/4711481/

Witnesses say they rushed to help a woman who was stabbed at least 14 times in an attack in the Uptown area of Minneapolis Wednesday night.

Twenty-six-year-old Morgan Evenson is now resting at her home in Uptown after she was attacked on the corner of West 32nd Street and Fremont Avenue South about 10 p.m. that evening, according to Patrick Stellick, Evenson's fiance.

UPDATE: Woman Stabbed 14 Times Speaks About Ordeal

Stellick told KSTP that Evenson was walking home on Fremont after leaving her job at the Apple store on Hennepin Avenue when the suspect tackled her from behind. Evenson fought back, Stellick said.

"Attack" and "suspect." Later in the article the pronoun "he" is used in the description of the attack. No description of *any* kind. And this gem:

Minneapolis Police Sgt. Darcy Horn said no one has been arrested, and that no information on a suspect is available.

But made sure to incite fear in the public by noting that the attacker was not apprehended.

Dec 19, 6 days after the attack, the suspect again was described as only "the attacker", and "he". And more comments that he was on the loose, with NO description of any kind.

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2017/12/19/uptown-stabbing-victim/

December 20th, 7 days after the attack, ABC-5 only described him as "the attacker", and "he." No description, no details about where he ran off or how he arrived behind ME, but comments that he was still on the loose.

http://kstp.com/news/woman-stabbed-14-times-speaks-about-ordeal/4714419/

From December 20 to January 2nd, there was NO coverage of this in the local media at all.

Until January 2nd, when *finally* a basic description of the attacker, and what clothing he was wearing (3 weeks prior!), and the fact that he pulled up and got out of a car to follow her (and apparently there was at least one other person, an accomplice, involved who was driving the car), AND that the attacker fled on foot, and the specific street he was seen running down (32nd).

http://www.fox9.com/news/weeks-later-minneapolis-police-still-seeking-suspect-in-uptown-stabbing

Evenson said she got a very clear look at the suspect as she struggled with him for a few minutes. She describes him as a thin, Somali man in his early twenties with a slight accent and short, afro-style hair.

Minneapolis police are increasing their patrols in the area and are awaiting results from forensic testing.

December 13 until January 2 to publicize a BASIC description of the very violent attemped murderer running loose (or who was probably picked up by his accomplice in the same car he was dropped off in.)

TWENTY days for a description of the violent attacker on the loose, and which way he went when he ran off. And THEN a description of his clothing and what he looks like, with an impotent appeal to the public to call a tip line if they see him. GMAB. That's gross incompetence by BOTH the police, AND the media, IMO, that put MANY citizens at risk.

The mayor and police chief should have to answer publicly for how this unfolded. Residents in the area should be outraged.

 

[CoolJ]

BBM. Please note that that description in the link referenced is from an article published January 4th. The attack happened December 13.

Here's a timeline:

The first media coverage of the attack was December 17, 4 days AFTER the attack, in the Star Tribune.

http://kstp.com/news/woman-survives-late-night-stabbing-attack-in-uptown-minneapolis-/4711481/



"Attack" and "suspect." Later in the article the pronoun "he" is used in the description of the attack. No description of *any* kind. And this gem:



But made sure to incite fear in the public by noting that the attacker was not apprehended.

Dec 19, 6 days after the attack, the suspect again was described as only "the attacker", and "he". And more comments that he was on the loose, with NO description of any kind.

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2017/12/19/uptown-stabbing-victim/

December 20th, 7 days after the attack, ABC-5 only described him as "the attacker", and "he." No description, no details about where he ran off or how he arrived behind ME, but comments that he was still on the loose.

http://kstp.com/news/woman-stabbed-14-times-speaks-about-ordeal/4714419/

From December 20 to January 2nd, there was NO coverage of this in the local media at all.

Until January 2nd, when *finally* a basic description of the attacker, and what clothing he was wearing (3 weeks prior!), and the fact that he pulled up and got out of a car to follow her (and apparently there was at least one other person, an accomplice, involved who was driving the car), AND that the attacker fled on foot, and the specific street he was seen running down (32nd).

http://www.fox9.com/news/weeks-later-minneapolis-police-still-seeking-suspect-in-uptown-stabbing



December 13 until January 2 to publicize a BASIC description of the very violent attemped murderer running loose (or who was probably picked up by his accomplice in the same car he was dropped off in.)

TWENTY days for a description of the violent attacker on the loose, and which way he went when he ran off. And THEN a description of his clothing and what he looks like, with an impotent appeal to the public to call a tip line if they see him. GMAB. That's gross incompetence by BOTH the police, AND the media, IMO, that put MANY citizens at risk.

The mayor and police chief should have to answer publicly for how this unfolded. Residents in the area should be outraged.

Is this different than any other similar case?

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

No, not really. The vast majority of crimes don't even receive this much coverage from local media.

Is this different than any other similar case?

 

[CoolJ]

No, not really. The vast majority of crimes don't even receive this much coverage from local media.

Exactly! And I would propose the exact opposite of what K_Z is saying.
I would say that this case, as horrific as it is, would normally not be news. However, a faction of people who are opposed to the Somali community in Minnesota are kicking up a fuss that any crime purportedly committed by someone of Somali origin should be immediately and without delay reported to all media sources and blasted through the airwaves as if all people of Somali origin are capable of such violence.

How is that for a dose of truth?

 

[K_Z]

Here's another thing to consider.

If Morgan had been a 12 year old seventh grader walking a block home at 8:30pm from a friend's house, and this same attack happened, do you think the police and media response was appropriate?

If Morgan had been an 88 year old woman using a cane, walking her dog at 8:30 pm and this same attack happened, do you think the police and media response was appropriate?

If Morgan had been a 26 year old intellectually impaired woman with Down Syndrome, walking home from a friend's house at 8:30 pm, would the police and media response have been appropriate?

If Morgan had been a 26 year old female body builder or elite level athlete, would the police response have been appropriate?

 

[K_Z]

Is this different than any other similar case?

Show me another case of an unprovoked stalking and 13- stabbings knife attack by a random stranger on a sidewalk in a residential neighborhood, with a perp on the loose, that was treated the same way, anywhere in MN or a similar community. This was highly unusual, and exceptionally brazen-- the words used by a police officer. Which is why it is all the more unacceptable how it was handled.

The KNOWN information that might have lead to a very rapid apprehension was suppressed. There is simply no other rational conclusion.

Let me be clear. I don't think there was a huddled "conspiracy" with directions from superiors to suppress the description of the attack and attacker. I think that the current social conditions that have evolved over the past couple of years has produced a RELUCTANCE to publicize and pursue "certain" perpetrators by the police and media. Strategic AVOIDANCE, encouraged by social conditions. And it's unspeakably dangerous on many levels.

This is exactly like a "slow code" in hospitals and ERs. It's immoral, unethical, and incompetent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_code

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

Like I said earlier, I am not arguing with you.

We agree to disagree.

Show me another case of an unprovoked stalking and 13- stabbings knife attack by a random stranger on a sidewalk in a residential neighborhood, with a perp on the loose, that was treated the same way, anywhere in MN or a similar community. This was highly unusual, and exceptionally brazen-- the words used by a police officer. Which is why it is all the more unacceptable how it was handled.

The KNOWN information that might have lead to a very rapid apprehension was suppressed. There is simply no other rational conclusion.

Let me be clear. I don't think there was a huddled "conspiracy" with directions from superiors to suppress the description of the attack and attacker. I think that the current social conditions that have evolved over the past couple of years has produced a RELUCTANCE to publicize and pursue "certain" perpetrators by the police and media. Strategic AVOIDANCE, encouraged by social conditions. And it's unspeakably dangerous on many levels.

This is exactly like a "slow code" in hospitals and ERs. It's immoral, unethical, and incompetent.

 

[CoolJ]

Here's another thing to consider.

If Morgan had been a 12 year old seventh grader walking a block home at 8:30pm from a friend's house, and this same attack happened, do you think the police and media response was appropriate?

If Morgan had been an 88 year old woman using a cane, walking her dog at 8:30 pm and this same attack happened, do you think the police and media response was appropriate?

If Morgan had been a 26 year old intellectually impaired woman with Down Syndrome, walking home from a friend's house at 8:30 pm, would the police and media response have been appropriate?

If Morgan had been a 26 year old female body builder or elite level athlete, would the police response have been appropriate?

We have no idea what the “police response” is or was in this case or any other case as it is being investigated.

I think the only reason this case is getting the attention it now is, is because the perp is possibly someone of Somalian decent and there are people hounding the media to report on it for that very reason.

 

[animlzrule]

Exactly! And I would propose the exact opposite of what K_Z is saying.
I would say that this case, as horrific as it is, would normally not be news. However, a faction of people who are opposed to the Somali community in Minnesota are kicking up a fuss that any crime purportedly committed by someone of Somali origin should be immediately and without delay reported to all media sources and blasted through the airwaves as if all people of Somali origin are capable of such violence.

How is that for a dose of truth?

And we have a winner!!!! Ding, ding, ding... In fact, you can substitute just about any ethnicity or community in place of the default ethnicity of this country and that same faction of people will use it as an opportunity to further their agenda by stoking fear and paranoia. Rinse and repeat.

 

[K_Z]

Political correctness run amok. To the detriment of us all.

See also, "the Ferguson effect".

This perp will do this again, whatever his warped motivation was, IMO. He and his accomplice/s are now emboldened, IMO. He completely got away with this attempted murder, and has been sheltered/ shielded by police and the media because of his ethnicity and race, IMO.

He WILL offend violently again-- and may even escalate his violence, IMO. He didn't run a red light, or shoplift a pack of gum. He stalked and stabbed a woman 13+ times on a public sidewalk. Where does a criminal go from there, except to do something unspeakably worse? To "someone else's" loved one/s.

 

[CoolJ]

Political correctness run amok. To the detriment of us all.

See also, "the Ferguson effect".

This perp will do this again, whatever his warped motivation was, IMO. He and his accomplice/s are now emboldened, IMO. He completely got away with this attempted murder, and has been sheltered/ shielded by police and the media because of his ethnicity and race, IMO.

He WILL offend violently again-- and may even escalate his violence, IMO. He didn't run a red light, or shoplift a pack of gum. He stalked and stabbed a woman 13+ times on a public sidewalk. Where does a criminal go from there, except to do something unspeakably worse? To "someone else's" loved one/s.

Nah, paranoia and bigotry run amok. To the detriment of all.

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

Caucasian covers a lot. Somalian is very very specific. Unless one has lots of experience with different peoples, not sure how anyone could know.

I live in a country now where there are a lot of tourists. People always think I am from Canada because of my accent. I do not think I have an acccent, but I must. I am from Minnesota.

I met a woman yesterday who spoke perfect English. She was from Mexico City. She was half German and half Mexican. She also spoke German and Soanish. Maybe other languages.

Because of her English, I figured she was American.

French, Swiss, Portuguese. Beats the heck out of me. Australian or New Zealand. I always get mixed up on those accents.

No, I do not for one minute believe most people can guess where someone is from.

I once had a stranger, over the phone, peg me to within 100 miles of my hometown, based only on my (non-existent, vanilla Midwest) accent.

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[animlzrule]

Political correctness run amok. To the detriment of us all.

See also, "the Ferguson effect".

This perp will do this again, whatever his warped motivation was, IMO. He and his accomplice/s are now emboldened, IMO. He completely got away with this attempted murder, and has been sheltered/ shielded by police and the media because of his ethnicity and race, IMO.

He WILL offend violently again-- and may even escalate his violence, IMO. He didn't run a red light, or shoplift a pack of gum. He stalked and stabbed a woman 13+ times on a public sidewalk. Where does a criminal go from there, except to do something unspeakably worse? To "someone else's" loved one/s.

BBM: You mean, the debunked "Ferguson effect."

Debunking the Ferguson Effect
A new Brennan Center report on U.S. crime trends rebuts claims of a nationwide crime wave.

"First, the fears of a “a new nationwide crime wave” are premature at best and wildly misleading at worst. The numbers make clear that violent crime is up in some major U.S. cities and down in others. “However, there is not yet sufficient evidence to conclude that these levels will persist in the future or are part of a national trend,” the report concludes. “Although headlines suggesting a coming crime wave make good copy, a look at the available data shows there is no evidence to support that claim.” And with the crime wave’s existence unsupported by evidence, so too is the claim that heightened scrutiny of law enforcement caused it."

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/ferguson-effect/416931/

This is just one source. There are others. And even if "The Ferguson Effect" WAS real? It says more about the state of the integrity of LE than it does the communities ravaged by violence. Anyhoo, this perp did not perpetrate this crime because he is Somalian. Why so much outrage for this particular case, vs. all of the other murders that aren't perpetrated by POC? Because it seems to me that the perp's alleged ethnicity is what has you so frenzied, not that this poor woman was attacked.

 

[human]

I am wondering how a man with a thin build, a slight accent, and wearing non descript clothing that is worn by anyone can be identified a Somali? What is it that is the identifier? The accent us slight.

I am also wondering how it is known that this was not in the news right away? Did people do a search on back editions?

I look at my hometown paper online but I cannot look at earlier editions as I have no subscription. And even when I know of an instance, I put in search words and what I am looking for does not come up,

I am simply curious how anyone knew of this if it was not in the news.

As far as the description, I imagine ME was traumatized and taking drugs in the hospital. I imagine it ook time to stabilize and recover from the horror as well as pain.

If there are cameras, one would think LE is looking for the car

 

[Safeguard]

Rs/bbm

As far as the description, I imagine ME was traumatized and taking drugs in the hospital. I imagine it ook time to stabilize and recover from the horror as well as pain.

If there are cameras, one would think LE is looking for the car

That really doesn't fly considering she was able to give a detailed account of her assault, in every way, except for a description of her assailant? It does appear there was a reluctence, for whatever reason, to release that information.

ETA: OK I see the first post had the link about her seeing him get out of a car... No description of the vehical?

 

[human]

Rs/bbm

That really doesn't fly considering she was able to give a detailed account of her assault, in every way, except for a description of her assailant? It does appear there was a reluctence, for whatever reason, to release that information.

ETA: OK I see the first post had the link about her seeing him get out of a car... No description of the vehical?

Being in the hospital after such an attack would mean she is being monitored as well as getting pain meds and who knows what else. It would take awhile for her to be stablized enough to communicate.

I doubt after 14 stab wounds one is up for conversation.

 

[Karinna]

Being in the hospital after such an attack would mean she is being monitored as well as getting pain meds and who knows what else. It would take awhile for her to be stablized enough to communicate.

I doubt after 14 stab wounds one is up for conversation.

But it has been stated in MSM that Morgan was able to give LE a good description of her attacker. And there were also witnesses to the attack as well.

 

[Safeguard]

But it has been stated in MSM that Morgan was able to give LE a good description of her attacker. And there were also witnesses to the attack as well.

Right. She was communicating just fine.
Many of those reports claim the police are calling her attack a "botched robbery". That's absolutely ridiculous. He wasn't after her purse, he was after her life. and he nearly took it too.

 

[Karinna]

Right. She was communicating just fine.
Many of those reports claim the police are calling her attack a "botched robbery". That's absolutely ridiculous. He wasn't after her purse, he was after her life. and he nearly took it too.

Agreed. And from the sound of things Morgan put up a good fight against him, and thank god for the people who helped her especially the man that sent the perp. running. I am sure because of this it will make people more vigilant in the area now. I wish her all the best for her future life with her partner and that she has a long and happy life.