MN - One dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

[Summerliz03]

From your link

Some have condemned the requests as an attempt by the White House to create a national database of voters and restrict access.
“The requests cover sensitive, private information such as driver’s license numbers and partial Social Security numbers. Its collection by the federal government raises serious privacy and security concerns and may violate state and federal laws.”
“What the DOJ is trying to do is something that should frighten everybody across the political spectrum. They’re trying to use the power of the executive branch to bully states into turning over highly sensitive data: date of birth, Social Security number, driver’s license—the holy trinity of identity theft.”


IMO this is all about interfering in future elections.

Yes, by having state voting rolls and data, the federal government could remove anyone from a voter registration with zero notice or explanation. That person would have no idea they were removed unless they were regularly checking their voter registration or they went to vote and learned they were no longer registered. States have always handled their own voter registration and data, it’s not a federal government issue.

 

[keek]

That’s taken out of context. imo.

I would encourage people to read the actual letter rather than relying on clickbait headlines.

It's from Bondi and we have for sure, all of it and again, it's from Bondi.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

Per the media interview with the ICE department (linked upthread), he said that civilians should not interfere with the duties of federal officers. Observing is fine, taking video is fine. In both of these screen shots, it does not look like a friendly conversation. In my opinion, it looks like a confrontation.

The thing is, he doesn't get to decide. With due respect, Otto, America has a Constitution that guarantees certain rights. Those rights are codified in that document and cannot be changed at the whims of any administration. The only thing that changes the Constitution is an amendment. An amendment requires 2/3 of the House of Representatives and 2/3 of the Senate. THEN, it goes to the states and has to be supported by 38 states.

So the ICE department can say whatever they want. It doesn't make it true.

Americans are Constitutionally guaranteed the right to protest and to observe public law enforcement. They are also guaranteed the right to ask questions. Unless someone can point out exactly what this gentlemen did that "interfered" with federal law enforcement, I call bull on what the administration is saying.

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Beelden van doodgeschoten burger Minneapolis spreken kamp-Trump tegen

Uit de video's en ooggetuigenverslagen blijkt dat Pretti geen wapen in zijn handen hield, maar juist een telefoon. Deze feiten staan haaks op uitspraken van de federale overheid.

nos.nl

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There's no question that excessive force was used, but it doesn't appear to start with excessive force. It appears to start with confrontations between protesters and ICE agents.

I disagree entirely. What I see on that video starts with ICE putting their hand on a protestor and ends with a US citizen dead. There is no published backstory about interference. In America, protestors are allowed to shout at law enforcement so confrontation or not is not justification for anything that followed.

MOO.

 

[Inthedetails]

Is Minnesota a swing state?

Minnesota is the only state in the union that didn't vote for Reagan in the 1980s.

The last time MN voted for a Republican president, it was for Nixon in the 1970s.

I know things have changed since then, but it's a blue state. The current governor ran for VP in the last presidential election.

This is not meant to be political but factual to answer a question and provide context that perhaps WSers outside the USA might find useful about the place.

jmopinion

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

Please note: analyzing the events that led up to the shooting does not equate with believing that the shooting was justified.

It appears that Pretti had a conversation with the ICE officers earlier, and then he was in the middle of an ICE officer shoving the woman in the white coat.

I think analysis needs to be rooted in legally applicable facts, and sadly, judging by their statements prior to any investigation and in light of video evidence showing the opposite, the administration is not relying on facts. So I can't agree with any analysis that references their factless position.

MOO.

Source: all the links and articles that have been posted thus far in this thread, save the stuff put out by DHS and the government as it's in direct contradiction to witness statements and video.

 

[Summerliz03]

That’s taken out of context. imo.

I would encourage people to read the actual letter rather than relying on clickbait headlines.

I have read the actual letter, I read it twice. Nothing was taken out of context from anything I read. Those were the demands she had for the state of Minnesota in exchange for ICE agents being pulled back from their operations in the state. To me, that reads like extortion. Also, if their mission is to find all these serious criminal illegal aliens, why would they give up on that and leave the state before completing this task, if Minnesota gives into their demands?

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Very well-written letter from U.S. Attorney General Bondi. It covers all the issues that the federal government is investigating in Minnesota, as well as Minnesota's leaders refusal to cooperate with federal immigration agents and the issue of illegal immigration and their state. Lays it all out very well.

Absolutely! I agree it’s a well written letter.

 

[keek]

I have read the actual letter, I read it twice. Nothing was taken out of context from anything I read. Those were the demands she had for the state of Minnesota in exchange for ICE agents being pulled back from their operations in the state. To me, that reads like extortion. Also, if their mission is to find all these serious criminal illegal aliens, why would they give up on that and leave the state before completing this task, if Minnesota gives into their demands?

Pretty much outing themselves that that was NEVER the reason the boots were sent there, sooo many of them, so obvious the reason, petty revenge that cost people their lives and then some. IMO

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

True. Protesting is standing up for a cause. Is it still protesting when the many confront individual federal officers who are are fulfilling a job duty? Should the protest be with the person who gave the order?

Imagine that people are crossing an international border and one person is pulled aside for additional screening. As soon as that happens, everyone in the room starts blowing whistles, swearing, chanting, and confronting border security officers. Is that protesting?

Protesting is a Constitutionally protected right. It's honestly impossible to overstate that this is A-OK in the USA. It is how we make our opinions known. I'm really not sure what point you're making with your analysis here. Are you saying that they were wrong to protest? Are you saying they were wrong to be there? I really don't understand. If that's what you're saying, I think you may be unintentionally misunderstanding American laws, values, and Constitutional rights.

MOO.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

Indeed. There are what appears to be confrontations between Pretti and and more than one ICE agent, and more than one ICE agent interacts with Pretti. Pretti appears to place himself close to ICE agents on at least two separate occasions. There is physical contact on two occasions. He is described as an "observer" with a camera.

What were the ICE agents doing there? ICE agents were not operating independently. Someone hired them to go there and do that job. That is where the problem lies, not with the individual agents. The protests should be with the person making the decisions, not the person carrying them out ... in my opinion.

That's not how it works though. No one is ordering them to kill people. Their job is to remove undocumented immigrants. They are taking it upon themselves to shoot it in the moment. It's like police. If a cop shoots someone, people will fight police in that city. They're not going to fight the national police association or the police academy or whatever.

Also, it's happening in Minnesota to Minnesotans. Surely we can't expect the entire population of Minnesota to travel to DC to protest there? They have ever right to protest against the invasion in their state.

MOO.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

Absolutely! The problem is higher up the food chain than the agent on the street, yet the agent on the street takes the brunt of the protests.

Because the agent on the street is doing the shooting.

There's another video at this website that explains how ICE became so threatening. It's a Dutch video, but all the interviews are in English, and it's optional to set closed captions to English. It explains how it started with Clinton and changed with government changes to become what it is today.

Beelden van doodgeschoten burger Minneapolis spreken kamp-Trump tegen

Uit de video's en ooggetuigenverslagen blijkt dat Pretti geen wapen in zijn handen hield, maar juist een telefoon. Deze feiten staan haaks op uitspraken van de federale overheid.

nos.nl

ICE did not start with Clinton. ICE began with Bush in 2003, long after Clinton was out of office.

History of ICE

www.ice.gov

 

[PezCandy]

I'm sick of the uproar these "peaceful" protesters cause. There is nothing peaceful about them, my property has been getting damaged, trash everywhere, my kids can't sleep, & the part that really ticks me off most is the criminals that blend in with these protesters, homes getting vandalized & broken into because there's so many people out that it's hard to pin point who's all doing it. This has been a problem since the George floyd incident. We've had neighbors out there begging people to leave. Things escalate to violence really quick why would you want to put yourself in the middle of it? While I don't think anyone should have gotten shot this is causing so much stress for the people who live here. I don't think people understand how many actual illegals who have serious SERIOUS crimes on their records or escaped are here, it's been an issue for a long time.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

I can't imagine a scenario where I would think it wise to holster my Glock 19, strap an extra magazine or 2 on my belt, have foreknowledge of the time and location of Federal agent activity for a given day, arrive on scene, and insert myself into the situation such that I find myself face to face with armed Federal agents.

His Constitutional right to do so. At no point did he use the gun or threaten to use the gun on agents. So unless we're ok with law enforcement just shooting anyone with a gun, we need to not use his legally carrying a gun as an excuse to justify this.

MOO.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I really appreciate you answering, so just a few questions if you still feel like answering or anyone else:

In regards to citizens 'inserting themselves' into operations, has there ever been a situation involving an LE shooting, escalation or altercation that you believe LE were responsible for, they overreached or were using their powers to commit a crime under legislation i.e. manslaughter, murder, assault?

I appreciate you answering Q2 - are you saying that you feel uncomfortable that ICE don't have ENOUGH power to fulfil the goal?

In re: to Q1: "In regards to citizens 'inserting themselves' into operations, has there ever been a situation involving an LE shooting, escalation or altercation that you believe LE were responsible for, they overreached or were using their powers to commit a crime under legislation i.e. manslaughter, murder, assault?"

ANSWER: I honestly don't know and cannot comment. I do believe we're in a most unique situation in the US than has ever been dealt with. I'm not as much of an industrious fan of US history as I'd prefer to be, but none of what's happening feels common to my knowledge of what's come before in our country's history. Much of this feels new and entirely non-American value-wise.
(I know that might sound odd given my screen name but I an in fact a very patriotic American citizen).

Q2 FOLLOW UP:

The simple answer is that I believe the US public has been flat out lied to about how many illegals are in their midst, and when ICE shows up & everyone loses their mind, because they have no idea (by design) how many illegals are among them. I suspect (but obviously cannot prove it) that this is also part of the rampant government fraud in the same exact places.

Obviously all of this is jmo...

 

[Inthedetails]

Like all of us, I've seen the videos several times now. I appreciate an analysis that shows still photos and concise, written descriptions rather than yet another video.

Timeline: A Moment-by-Moment Look at the Shooting of Alex Pretti

A moment-by-moment analysis of videos from the scene shows that Mr. Pretti was already restrained when shots were fired. The footage contradicts the federal government’s account of the fatal shooting.

www.nytimes.com

 

[sapphire blue]

Absolutely! I agree it’s a well written letter.

Well written doesn’t mean it is factual or legal.

Coercion is not a good look

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

I have read the actual letter, I read it twice. Nothing was taken out of context from anything I read. Those were the demands she had for the state of Minnesota in exchange for ICE agents being pulled back from their operations in the state. To me, that reads like extortion. Also, if their mission is to find all these serious criminal illegal aliens, why would they give up on that and leave the state before completing this task, if Minnesota gives into their demands?

rbbm
They would still arrest criminal undocumented immigrants. We don’t see this occurring at the same level in other states. In my opinion, ICE is permitted to remove criminal undocumented immigrants from jails in other states. Maybe we can agree that this doesn’t need to play out on the streets in the way that it has been. I see it as a compromise. imo

From the letter -
Second, repeal the sanctuary policies that have led to so much crime and violence in your state. Removing criminal illegal aliens from Minnesota neighborhoods will save lives, and state and local officials should support this goal. All detention facilities in your state should cooperate fully with ICE, honor immigration detainers, and permit ICE to interview detainees in custody to determine immigration status. I urge you to reach an agreement with ICE that allows them to remove illegal aliens in custody of Minnesota's prisons and jails and avoids pushing these interactions into your streets.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

He had a high caliber weapon, a super duper gun - it was simultaneously the gun being taken and ice shooting, how was ice supposed to know he wasn't reaching for another weapon or the exact one that was being removed from him, they were protecting the ice agents as they should of been - he shouldn't of been fighting w/ICE nor had any weapon to use against ICE

He wasn't fighting with ICE that I've seen in any video. Do you have a link to suggest he was fighting with ICE? Also, until we amend the Constitution to get rid of the second amendment, it's his right to carry a gun.

MOO.

 

[Sundog]

Well written doesn’t mean it is factual or legal.

Coercion is not a good look

I don't see any coercion in the letter, just our AG addressing issues related to fraud in Minnesota along with illegal immigrants and their removal according to U.S. law.

 

[Inthedetails]

rbbm
They would still arrest criminal undocumented immigrants. We don’t see this occurring at the same level in other states. In my opinion, ICE is permitted to remove criminal undocumented immigrants from jails in other states. Maybe we can agree that this doesn’t need to play out on the streets in the way that it has been. I see it as a compromise. imo

From the letter -
Second, repeal the sanctuary policies that have led to so much crime and violence in your state. Removing criminal illegal aliens from Minnesota neighborhoods will save lives, and state and local officials should support this goal. All detention facilities in your state should cooperate fully with ICE, honor immigration detainers, and permit ICE to interview detainees in custody to determine immigration status. I urge you to reach an agreement with ICE that allows them to remove illegal aliens in custody of Minnesota's prisons and jails and avoids pushing these interactions into your streets.

WSers know the difference between jail and prison so I'll skip the article's definitions. Here are a few facts, but there are more at the link:

• The Trump Administration claims Minnesota jails and prisons are releasing the "worst of the worst" instead of allowing ICE to immediately detain them for deportation.
• But many of the detainees highlighted by ICE haven’t been behind bars in Minnesota for several years or haven’t served any time at all in the state, according to court records reviewed by the FOX 9 Investigators....

Minnesota law requires DOC to notify ICE when a person committed to DOC custody is not a U.S. citizen. DOC also honors all ICE detainers and coordinates transfers when ICE requests pickup.

Some county jails in Minnesota, most notably Hennepin County, do not honor ICE detainers.
That means the jail will not hold an inmate for ICE to pick up unless agents have a warrant signed by a judge.

More at the link:

Records undercut ICE claims that MN jails, prisons release 'worst of the worst'

The Trump Administration has repeatedly blamed county and state officials in Minnesota for releasing violent criminals from jail or prison instead of handing them over to ICE for deportation. But many of those detainees have no criminal records in Minnesota or haven’t been incarcerated here for...

www.fox9.com