MN - One dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

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I have read the actual letter, I read it twice. Nothing was taken out of context from anything I read. Those were the demands she had for the state of Minnesota in exchange for ICE agents being pulled back from their operations in the state. To me, that reads like extortion. Also, if their mission is to find all these serious criminal illegal aliens, why would they give up on that and leave the state before completing this task, if Minnesota gives into their demands?
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They would still arrest criminal undocumented immigrants. We don’t see this occurring at the same level in other states. In my opinion, ICE is permitted to remove criminal undocumented immigrants from jails in other states. Maybe we can agree that this doesn’t need to play out on the streets in the way that it has been. I see it as a compromise. imo

From the letter -
Second, repeal the sanctuary policies that have led to so much crime and violence in your state. Removing criminal illegal aliens from Minnesota neighborhoods will save lives, and state and local officials should support this goal. All detention facilities in your state should cooperate fully with ICE, honor immigration detainers, and permit ICE to interview detainees in custody to determine immigration status. I urge you to reach an agreement with ICE that allows them to remove illegal aliens in custody of Minnesota's prisons and jails and avoids pushing these interactions into your streets.
 
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He had a high caliber weapon, a super duper gun - it was simultaneously the gun being taken and ice shooting, how was ice supposed to know he wasn't reaching for another weapon or the exact one that was being removed from him, they were protecting the ice agents as they should of been - he shouldn't of been fighting w/ICE nor had any weapon to use against ICE <modsnip: Thread is not about immigration policy>

He wasn't fighting with ICE that I've seen in any video. Do you have a link to suggest he was fighting with ICE? Also, until we amend the Constitution to get rid of the second amendment, it's his right to carry a gun.

MOO.
 
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Well written doesn’t mean it is factual or legal.

Coercion is not a good look
I don't see any coercion in the letter, just our AG addressing issues related to fraud in Minnesota along with illegal immigrants and their removal according to U.S. law.
 
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They would still arrest criminal undocumented immigrants. We don’t see this occurring at the same level in other states. In my opinion, ICE is permitted to remove criminal undocumented immigrants from jails in other states. Maybe we can agree that this doesn’t need to play out on the streets in the way that it has been. I see it as a compromise. imo

From the letter -
Second, repeal the sanctuary policies that have led to so much crime and violence in your state. Removing criminal illegal aliens from Minnesota neighborhoods will save lives, and state and local officials should support this goal. All detention facilities in your state should cooperate fully with ICE, honor immigration detainers, and permit ICE to interview detainees in custody to determine immigration status. I urge you to reach an agreement with ICE that allows them to remove illegal aliens in custody of Minnesota's prisons and jails and avoids pushing these interactions into your streets.

WSers know the difference between jail and prison so I'll skip the article's definitions. Here are a few facts, but there are more at the link:

  • The Trump Administration claims Minnesota jails and prisons are releasing the "worst of the worst" instead of allowing ICE to immediately detain them for deportation.
  • But many of the detainees highlighted by ICE haven’t been behind bars in Minnesota for several years or haven’t served any time at all in the state, according to court records reviewed by the FOX 9 Investigators....

Minnesota law requires DOC to notify ICE when a person committed to DOC custody is not a U.S. citizen. DOC also honors all ICE detainers and coordinates transfers when ICE requests pickup.

Some county jails in Minnesota, most notably Hennepin County, do not honor ICE detainers.
That means the jail will not hold an inmate for ICE to pick up unless agents have a warrant signed by a judge.


More at the link:
 
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‘U.S. District Judge David O. Carter dismissed the Justice Department’s lawsuit demanding California’s voter rolls, calling it “unprecedented and illegal” and a threat to American democracy’


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Enforcing the law is a basic responsibility of government. Law enforcement should be able to do its job without outside interference, and protesters shouldn’t be allowed to dictate whether or not the law is enforced. imo

Is there a point at which protesters should reconsider their approach?

Not as long as US citizens are being killed in the streets, no. Protestors changing their approach is completely backwards to me. Who should be reconsidering their approach is ICE and their leadership. Protestors have every right to be there and ICE's tactics should not intimidate them into surrendering their birthrights.

MOO.
 
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Very well-written letter from U.S. Attorney General Bondi. It covers all the issues that the federal government is investigating in Minnesota, as well as Minnesota's leaders refusal to cooperate with federal immigration agents and the issue of illegal immigration and their state. Lays it all out very well.
You're not concerned about how illegal this is? Giving out the private data of millions of U.S citizens is a violation of state and federal law. I'm glad Minnesota is holding its ground.
 
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Protestors do not have the right to trash peoples homes & yards & cause such a massive disturbance. Are they going to pay for the damage? No, of course not. That comes out of my hard earned money I actually work for. ICE has every right to be here. Like I said, people are not understanding how many ILLEGAL CRIMINALS are actually here! Especially the people who are not even a resident here! It's been an ongoing serious problem, people have been concerned about safety here for years, not to mention the fraudsters who started taking advantage of the pandemic funds.
ICE doesn't have the right to murder innocent civilians. <modsnip>
 
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I don't see any coercion in the letter, just our AG addressing issues related to fraud in Minnesota along with illegal immigrants and their removal according to U.S. law.
You don’t see the ‘give the feds what they want and we will go away’ tactic?
The AG is conflating issues IMO to ramp up the anti immigrant rhetoric, legal and illegal.
Removal according to us law, except that’s not what’s happening at all, people are being taken without due process.

It’s very reminiscent of the 1930s, people didn’t want to see what was happening right in front of them, that is until they were also targeted. If we fail to learn from history we are doomed to repeat it.

The long term damage and destruction to democracy and to US citizens is going to leave loads of psychological issues all round.
 
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Protestors do not have the right to trash peoples homes & yards & cause such a massive disturbance. Are they going to pay for the damage? No, of course not. That comes out of my hard earned money I actually work for. ICE has every right to be here. Like I said, people are not understanding how many ILLEGAL CRIMINALS are actually here! Especially the people who are not even a resident here! It's been an ongoing serious problem, people have been concerned about safety here for years, not to mention the fraudsters who started taking advantage of the pandemic funds.
How many illegal immigrants are in Minnesota? What percentage of the population are they?

Isn’t Minnesota ranked in the top 10 safest states of the USA? Concerns about safety can often be perceived safety risks, rather than demonstrated ones, and quite often they re shaped by public anxiety around immigration, fear of others.

 
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IMO If you’re in public recording from a safe distance, fine. If you are closing distance, refusing to move back, stepping into agents, blocking , surrounding, etc. you are not observing , you are interfering and you are going to get treated like a threat. The conceal carry angle is the dumbest part of the debate . A permit does not give you authority. I am very much pro 2A. It doesn’t give you a hall pass to “help” by inserting yourself into a legal federal chaotic enforcement operation . Federal agents will not play intent games. They will treat “I’m helping “ as noise if your body is in the wrong place , you are closing distance and your hands are doing the wrong thing.

Mr. Pretti made horribly foolish decisions that day. I would NEVER encourage anyone I love to take part in this nonsense. IMO
Maybe you need to re-watch the videos. I think you're seeing what you want to see, not what actually happened.
 
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10:52 PM

Alex Pretti honored at Basilica of St. Mary service​

Clergy members at the Basilica of St. Mary honored and prayed for Alex Pretti and his family on Sunday.

For 10 years, Father Harry Tasto says he worked alongside Pretti as a chaplain at the Minneapolis VA hospital.

"He was known for his kindness and gentleness to patients," Tasto said. "So don't please pay any attention to the vilification from our national leaders."

Clergy invited those at Sunday's service to take home a candle in honor of Pretti.

Katie Bartlet doesn't go to church at the Basilica; she's not even Catholic, but she felt the pull to come.

"It spoke to me to come and bring a candle for Alex," she said.

By Jason Rantala

 
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Is Minnesota a swing state?

Technically speaking, it is not. It has voted blue at least since 1984 as the runner-up against Ronald Reagan was Walter Mondale, a Minnesotan. And before, they voted blue except for Nixon, and before that, they voted blue after Eisenhower.

But, during some elections, the margin has been low. I'd say, that in cases of "charismatic" Democratic candidates, they are "definitely blue", and in cases of "uncharismatic ones", the situation is more complex.

I believe that Michael Moore described the mood and the mentality of his state the best in his 2016 article "I think Trump is gonna win". That year, Minnesota voted for Clinton, but with a very narrow margin.

I lived in Iowa, just below Minnesota, and I can extrapolate, because both are post-industrial Midwestern states. People there are kind, hardworking, and - in sharp difference from Massachusetts or Washington, both states that i consider "mine" - having the concept of "a neighbor". While in MA people will help a lot if you ask and in WA, people are just but tend to help "causes" more, for a Midwesterner noticing when your neighbor is struggling and actively offering free help is the norm. And it is sincere.

So IMHO, this is the worst place to send ICE into because the sense of "neighborhood" is very strong there, and if their neighborhoods are in disarray, it hurts them a lot.

Just my personal opinion.
 
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We now have statements condemning the shooting from both former presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton. Surely we will hear from George W. Bush soon.
 
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