MN - One dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

  • #821
I haven’t been able to find mainstream verification of this video either.
I saw it on another platform earlier today and asked for a source but did not get any response just fyi
 
  • #822
This is where the problem lies:

"In the hours after the shooting, the Department of Homeland Security alleged that Pretti “violently resisted” disarmament until officers fired “defensive shots.” But bystander footage reviewed by The Wall Street Journal contradicts that version of events. The footage appears to show a federal officer pulling a handgun away from Pretti. Less than a second later, an agent fires several rounds."

Otto, you have to find out what violently resisted means in their speak. In protests in modern Germany you can get arrested and fined for 'defacing public property' or some such wording for locking yourself to some part of a government building like iron railings, in protest. Not gluing, locking. Before I knew of the definitions, I assumed protesters were resorting to graffiti, vandalism, broken windows in what had otherwise been a year-long, massive, non-violent protest in which I also was involved.

I am aware that we are not meant to go off topic, however I am citing an example that I personally know and saying: Find the equivalent in the US!! What is the lowest form of 'violently resisting' in LE-speak? Raising an arm to protect your head?? Remaining standing near BP man?? Helping a fellow protester off the ground? Even standing between fellow protester and BP man?? Or swearing??

@Otto the more you repeat LE-speak w/o knowing the definition used and interpreted by Border Patrol, the more you play into their version of events which even NRA and other institutions/groups of that nature are questioning. And the more you play into BP hands.

JMO
 
  • #823
They knowingly inserted themselves into an active law enforcement operation. This was not an organic protest that coincidentally occurred at the same location agents were trying to make an arrest. imo

needed to dbm
 
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  • #824
New: Top Border Patrol official Gregory Bovino and some of his agents are expected to leave Minneapolis tomorrow and return to their respective sectors, sidelining a key player in the Trump administration’s immigration crackdown.

Noem next? This comment is about the shooting of Alex Pretti and the lies the administration told about how/why the shooting happened, justifying the killing of a resident.

CNN cited an official who said Bovino's departure was a "mutual decision." According to CNN's reporting, administration officials were "deeply frustrated" with Bovino and Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem's handling of the shooting's aftermath, with Bovino alleging that Pretti was planning to "massacre" federal agents.

 
  • #825
  • #826
Noem next? This comment is about the shooting of Alex Pretti and the lies the administration told about how/why the shooting happened, justifying the killing of a resident.

CNN cited an official who said Bovino's departure was a "mutual decision." According to CNN's reporting, administration officials were "deeply frustrated" with Bovino and Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem's handling of the shooting's aftermath, with Bovino alleging that Pretti was planning to "massacre" federal agents.

CNN reported the president was "personally unhappy" with the way his administration was being portrayed, with officials also upset over Secretary Noem's labeling of Pretti as a "domestic terrorist." At a White House briefing Monday, Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said that was not President Trump's personal position.

Leavitt added that Homan will be the "main point of contact" for the operation in Minneapolis going forward.


 
  • #827
I was thinking of Alex’s phone. He was recording when he was shot. Where is his phone and the video?

I surely hope that the border patrol agents who killed him didn’t destroy the phone. However, if things are synchronized with the cloud, it is still possible to extract.

If it disappears altogether, it will raise more legal questions.
 
  • #828
Not necessarily true.

My phone uploads all of my pictures, videos, downloads and voice calls to my home NAS drive. Everything is then backed-up to an off-site location.

All this is cheap to do and anyone who needs to preserve their evidence can so so at minimal cost.

Do you believe that his digital footprint can be preserved, even if ICE indicates they didnt have /or lost his phone.
And, can US administration refuse to let it be seen????
 
  • #829
I surely hope that the border patrol agents who killed him didn’t destroy the phone. However, if things are synchronized with the cloud, it is still possible to extract.

If it disappears altogether, it will raise more legal questions.

right. so right.
 
  • #830
I surely hope that the border patrol agents who killed him didn’t destroy the phone. However, if things are synchronized with the cloud, it is still possible to extract.

If it disappears altogether, it will raise more legal questions.
I think there is more than enough video evidence to prove UNjustified murder even without Alex' phone. The phone really isn't needed, imo.

But if it disappears, that reflects loud and clear on how the investigation was mishandled.

jmo
 
  • #831
A federal judge is weighing whether to extend an order blocking the Trump administration from “destroying or altering evidence” connected to Pretti’s killing and said at the close of today's hearing, "we will be getting a decision forthwith.”
[snip]
A lawyer for the Minnesota attorney general pointed to several “serious irregularities” in how federal authorities preserved evidence in the hours after the shooting, including denying local police access to the scene and releasing statements that blamed Pretti and called him a domestic terrorist. Witness video of the shooting contradicts Trump administration’s narrative.

Peter Farrell, the lawyer for the Minnesota attorney general, questioned why Trump officials posted on social media a photo of a gun that federal agents said belonged to Pretti.

Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension “would never treat a gun like that,” Farrell said.
Judge to decide on evidence in Pretti shooting
 
  • #832
Do you believe that his digital footprint can be preserved, even if ICE indicates they didnt have /or lost his phone.
And, can US administration refuse to let it be seen????
I have literally no idea as I have no particular experience in tech or anything.

If his data is away from his phone then it's going to be a lot more difficult to hide by the government, quite honestly.

I like protecting my data and being in control of same. The NAS drive makes it extremely easy as you can set it to grab everything from your phone in pretty much real time. That was never my intention for getting it (it was to store movies as my previous external HDDs were filling up to quickly) but it's worked out quite well. It can also handle feeds for security cameras on my house when I get round to setting them up.

If you need to protect your data the it's an awesome machine.
 
  • #833
  • #834
I received approval to link the following video. The white vehicle right behind the incident was occupied at the time of the shooting and this is the driver’s footage. I haven’t seen it in MSM yet, but I’m sure it’s just a matter of time.


Edit: the driver also posted a video right before this one of the events right before this video starts.

Very important video. Thanks for gaining the approval to post, then posting it.
 
  • #835
16m ago

Bovino, some Border Patrol agents to leave Minneapolis soon: sources​

Outspoken Border Patrol commander Gregory Bovino and some of his green-uniformed agents are expected to soon leave the Minneapolis area, two sources familiar with the move tell CBS News.

The move comes following intense backlash over how top federal officials, including Bovino, responded to the fatal shooting of ICU nurse Alex Pretti.

Bovino, citing no evidence, suggested over the weekend Pretti intended to "massacre" federal agents.

By Camilo Montoya-Galvez

 
  • #836
“The answer to Attorney General Bondi’s request is no," Simon wrote.
"Her letter is an outrageous attempt to coerce Minnesota into giving the federal government private data on millions of U.S. Citizens in violation of state and federal law. This comes after repeated and failed attempts by the DOJ to pressure my office into providing the same data."

So it seems imo that Pam B was asking for information she is not entitled to under state or federal law. I should be shocked - imo none of this is normal and it should be called out no matter how many times we see this type of thing happening.


JMO

 
  • #837
What does it matter? The agents shot disarmed person lying on the ground ten times. No matter ehat facial expressions Alex Pretti did shooting him was not appropriate response.

MOO 🐄
Of course. We can look at the end result and know that no one should have pulled the trigger. That much is obvious.

But, some see value in examining the events that occurred prior to the shooting in order to understand how it went wrong. Analyzing the events prior to the shooting does not equate with a statement that the shooting was justified.
 
  • #838
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What about the others in that pack? I want to know who all of them are. Also there were TWO who emptied their guns on Alex's lifeless body. Who are they?

I have said it already: Alex Pretti is becoming a martyr. He is the martyr who gave his life for two important causes: the safety of the city of Minneapolis and in the long run, the principles of the self-governance of the states within the US, a federation.

With the martyrs, and I am not talking about the religious but the human concept of this term, one can not lie or brush things aside. It is the memory, the reverence, the symbolism, the folks’ veneration, if you will.

Obviously neither Bovino nor Noehm nor whoever-replaces-Bovino yet understand this very important component of the situation, the public view of Alex’s death. But eventually, they’ll have to provide all documents and the names of the agents, the sooner the better.

Nowadays Internet finds the culprits too often. I bet it will happen in this case for sure. They can’t hide the names, but they can unload them now. The agents who killed Pretti are dragging them all, Noehm, Bovino, the federal government down now, and heavily so. They are a tremendous liability, and it is not these agents’ job, but their actions that caused it.

I hope we’ll know their names soon. No one is demanding their heads, but the names and the CVs.
 
  • #839
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I have said it already: Alex Pretti is becoming a martyr. He is the martyr who gave his life for two important causes: the safety of the city of Minneapolis and in the long run, the principles of the self-governance of the states within the US, a federation.

With the martyrs, and I am not talking about the religious but the human concept of this term, one can not lie or brush things aside. It is the memory, the reverence, the symbolism, the folks’ veneration, if you will.

Obviously neither Bovino nor Noehm nor whoever-replaces-Bovino yet understand this very important component of the situation, the public view of Alex’s death. But eventually, they’ll have to provide all documents and the names of the agents, the sooner the better.

Nowadays Internet finds the culprits too often. I bet it will happen in this case for sure. They can’t hide the names, but they can unload them now. The agents who killed Pretti are dragging them all, Noehm, Bovino, the federal government down now, and heavily so. They are a tremendous liability, and it is not these agents’ job, but their actions that caused it.

I hope we’ll know their names soon. No one is demanding their heads, but the names and the CVs.
I'm honestly surprised we don't know the names of the shooters already. We knew with the Renee Good shooting in like, a day?

MOO
 
  • #840
I'm honestly surprised we don't know the names of the shooters already. We knew with the Renee Good shooting in like, a day?

MOO
I think they’re being a bit ‘smarter’ about this one. Jonathan Ross’ identity was found out because Noem said the officer had been involved in a dragging incident in x month, and it turned out there was only one such incident at that time.
 

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