MN - One dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

  • #881
There seems to be confusion over the behavior of people protesting, filming and yelling at ICE.

I would hope ICE is held to the same standard as LE. Real LE know that the constitution protects citizens' rights to free speech, bear arms and film watch talk etc.

Although I don't agree with the actions I am an American citizen and have the right to name call, swear, film and protest the actions or lack of actions from LE and certainly agents hired to come in my community acting unprofessional ways. Properly trained agents know to not retaliate to words and gestures. The one thing I can't do is touch them.

IMO if the shooters had video it would be playing non stop from the WH. If we never see AP phone video I will wonder just how much incriminating the video must be.

IMO it was very wreckless for the Trump administration (JD and Miller) to tell these agents they had immunity. It only emboldened them push back harder and kill this man.

This can stop but many Americans will have to stand up for our rights.

Nobody has the right to touch me, much less knock me down or kill me because I'm filming or running my mouth because I do not agree.

IMO these agents were poorly trained and seemed to have zero inclination of what to do if they didn't get their way.

The protesters, however, need to see that people among them are not inebriated or plain mental cases. I saw a video from Friday post-protest evening when a clearly drunk woman was yelling something at a group of protesters going home. Let us be fair: all protests have a certain percentage of people drunk, especially in cold weather. I have seen the trend a lot, and not only in the US. But they are the weak links, and this is how protests might turn violent. So: not my right to tell the Minnesotans how to do it, but maybe they should warn people to not show up drunk or obviously high?

So far, all in all, they have been amazingly organized and my heart goes out to them. Stay warm!
 
  • #882
Noem should be next. Gut and revamp the whole thing.

MOO.

Be careful what you wish for. She is not the sharpest tool in the shed IMHO and it might be a hidden benefit to the situation.
 
  • #883
There’s this -


With all my respect, the article reads as if the groups behind the protests are radical leftists and anti-Israeli and that they are financed by George Soros…

Not to mention that Soros is 95, but George Soros (Gyorgy Schwartz) is a Hungarian-born Jew who survived the Nazi occupation.

Why the heck should he finance anti-Israeli groups?

You know, propaganda has the right to exist, First Amendment, but then, it can be smart, stupid or plain bizarre. This is the example of bizarro fiction. JMO.
 
  • #884
White House allies are increasingly blaming one person for the chaotic fallout of the Trump administration’s crackdown in Minneapolis: Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.

The thrusts of the criticism are familiar, that Noem rushed to the cameras too quickly and sabotaged any independent probe into Saturday’s fatal shooting of 37-year-old Alex Pretti by Border Patrol agents. But this time, they’re occurring more publicly, as the White House takes steps to revisit its strategy in Minneapolis.....

Noem, meanwhile, has focused on using social media to project an image of exceedingly aggressive immigration enforcement.....

Noem has said little since Trump distanced himself from the shooting on Sunday night, but she praised Trump’s decision to send Homan to Minneapolis in a social media post on Monday.




 
  • #885
37m ago

Border patrol commander Gregory Bovino removed from his role - report​

Gregory Bovino has been removed from his role as border patrol “commander at large,” The Atlantic reports.

According to the magazine, Bovino will return to his previous job in El Centro, California, where he is expected to retire soon, citing a homeland security official and two people with knowledge of the removal.


El Centro ?

Back to walk the Mexican border fence.
 
  • #886
"Peaceful Protest", Yes. Bringing a gun to a "Peaceful Protest'. No.
I'm sorry, but nobody had to know that this man had his fully permitted handgun.

He did not take it out.

He did not reach for it.

What he did do is try to assist someone pushed and peppersprayed.

He was jumped and tackled and manhandled when the border patrol agents found his gun. It was none of their business what was in his holster. But they found it. Took it. Then shot him when the gun was in their possession.

Nothing Alex Pretti did with that gun was illegal.

He was a very peaceful man by every report.

MOO
 
  • #887
35m ago
CNN is reporting that border patrol official Gregory Bovino’s access to his social media accounts was suspended.

The move comes after Bovino responded to posts about the fatal shooting of 37-year-old Alex Pretti over the weekend, accusing Pretti of assaulting immigration agents before he was shot dead. Bovino’s claim has not been supported by videos of the killing on Saturday.

An official for the Department of Homeland Security said earlier today that Bovino has not been removed from his duties after reports saying otherwise.

 
  • #888
17m ago
Maanvi Singh

Hundreds of candles were lit at a memorial for Pretti, created at the site of his killing – many of them scented and tapered lights that neighbors had scrounged from their homes.

Brass Solidarity – a band that had formed in the aftermath of the 2020 murder of another Minneapolis resident George Floyd – played a rendition of Stand By Me, and the dozens of people gathered around the memorial sand along. The community band, led by Raycurt Johnson, normally plays once a week in George Floyd Square – near the site of Floyd’s killing. After Renee Nicole Good was killed, they began playing in her memory, as well. On Monday, they honored Pretti.

“Say his name!” They shouted as they concluded their song. “Alex Pretti!” The neighborhood screamed back.

Earlier in the day, Pho 79 and Carvalle, a Vietnamese and Chinese restaurant down the street from the Pretti memorial, was offering free meals to anyone in need. In the evening, they had set out hand warmers and other supplies for demonstrators who had gathered nearby.

Two days ago, in the aftermath of the killing, many of the restaurants along this corridor, known as “eat street” had transformed into makeshift shelters and field hospitals for demonstrators and observers injured by the chemical irritants that federal agents had used against them.

On Monday night, the street was fairly quiet – save for the brass music that pierced through the chilly air.

 
  • #889
35m ago
CNN is reporting that border patrol official Gregory Bovino’s access to his social media accounts was suspended.

The move comes after Bovino responded to posts about the fatal shooting of 37-year-old Alex Pretti over the weekend, accusing Pretti of assaulting immigration agents before he was shot dead. Bovino’s claim has not been supported by videos of the killing on Saturday.

An official for the Department of Homeland Security said earlier today that Bovino has not been removed from his duties after reports saying otherwise.

Adding to the converation about Bovino's suspension from social media accounts:

Bovino would use one X account, @CMDROpAtLargeCA, to post multiple times a day, trolling his critics, sharing mugshots of immigrants his officers arrested, and publicizing his own appearances at press conferences and on cable news.

 
  • #890
38 min ago

Alex Pretti's colleague says he was a compassionate nurse caring for veteran patients​

From CNN's Danya Gainor
Dr. Aasma Shaukat, a co-worker and mentor of Alex Pretti at the Minneapolis VA Medical Center, said the 37-year-old ICU nurse was full of empathy and compassion and easily connected with the veteran patients he cared for at work.

“He really connected with patients, particularly veterans, that he thought were a vulnerable group, and he truly believed he was helping them. Not everybody can do that as easily as Alex,” Shaukat told CNN’s Erin Burnett.

Shaukat, who worked alongside Pretti for six years, said she wasn’t surprised to learn that he was engaged in peaceful protests in the community.

“He was all about being a good citizen, standing up for your neighbors, your community, and standing up for what he believed was unjust or unfair,” she said. “That would be very much Alex.”

 
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  • #891
Regarding Alex' phone (with apologies if this has been posted already):

  • The FBI took possession of “a mobile phone and a firearm belonging to the deceased” Pretti, according to the lead DHS official overseeing the investigation into the shooting....
  • DHS investigators now have access to Pretti’s phone, the Homeland Security investigations’ special agent in charge said.

 
  • #892
Adding to the converation about Bovino's suspension from social media accounts:

Bovino would use one X account, @CMDROpAtLargeCA, to post multiple times a day, trolling his critics, sharing mugshots of immigrants his officers arrested, and publicizing his own appearances at press conferences and on cable news.

instagram/x/facebook all up still under that account name
 
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  • #893
He had every right to carry a gun wherever he went, per the Constitution.
<modsnip: Information stated as fact with no approved source to support>

It's my opinion that had he not been carrying that day, and had he not inserted himself when the woman was pushed down, he'd likely be alive today.

It's my opinion that an unfortunate chain of events transpired. I do not adhere to the notion that a Federal agent in this case committed 1st degree murder.

It's my opinion that no charges will be brought against the Federal agents in this case, however, if so, they will be lesser in nature, considering a litany of factors that came in to play that day.
 
  • #894
With all my respect, the article reads as if the groups behind the protests are radical leftists and anti-Israeli and that they are financed by George Soros…

Not to mention that Soros is 95, but George Soros (Gyorgy Schwartz) is a Hungarian-born Jew who survived the Nazi occupation.

Why the heck should he finance anti-Israeli groups?

You know, propaganda has the right to exist, First Amendment, but then, it can be smart, stupid or plain bizarre. This is the example of bizarro fiction. JMO.
The article doesn’t say that he financed any anti Israeli groups. There are several groups involved in the anti-ICE protests, not all funded by George Soros’ Open Society Foundations. Indivisible Twin Cities is separate from the Council on American-Islamic Relations. imo

From the link -
In addition to Indivisible Twin Cities — which does not identify its leaders on its website — other protest leaders include the Council on American-Islamic Relations, an anti-Israel group whose Minnesota chapter’s executive director Jaylani Hussein has rallied against ICE at protests.
 
  • #895
I'm sorry, but nobody had to know that this man had his fully permitted handgun.

He did not take it out.

He did not reach for it.

What he did do is try to assist someone pushed and peppersprayed.
These two facts are in my opinion critical to the case.

He inserted himself. And he was armed. Yes, a right to be armed, however, had he not been armed and not inserted himself into the situation when the woman was pushed down he'd likely be alive today.
 
  • #896
instagram/x/facebook all up still under that account name
The account will likely remain but he no longer has access to use it.

jmo
 
  • #897
The truth would not have made her boss look good, either, but she'd have come out looking better.

Not sure why she or anyone is willing to humiliate themselves and lie for their boss.

MOO

It may be not just for their boss.

Noem comes across as a true believer. I think that she subscribed to the whole Trump platform not (only) for individual power or perks, but sincerely. She views her ICE as an important political force. Hence, she is accountable not only to her president but to the ICE agents hired by her. She needs to protect them. She needs to stay by her promise.

And it is a tough role because I doubt they want to be in Minnesota. Her agents were hired to chase illegal immigrants, but facing their own citizens, looking into themselves, in a way, is a different thing.

She has some basic survivor’s ability but propaganda-wise, she is absolutely inept because this mainstream-Episcopalian-raised-in-flyover-land core is so strong in her. She can’t debate; she slams down the questions.

So she closed all the questions in both cases instead of saying, “we shall open an investigation”, and then dealing with “the investigations” in a typical bureaucratic way. She promised immunity; this time she called Pretti a terrorist, and considered the issue closed.

She cuts a dictatorial figure, but her lack of political ambiguity plus the urge to be constantly seen and heard are, in fact, a huge asset to the other party.

She is like a new-generation Sarah Palin, IMO.
 
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  • #898
These two facts are in my opinion critical to the case.

He inserted himself. And he was armed. Yes, a right to be armed, however, had he not been armed and not inserted himself into the situation when the woman was pushed down he'd likely be alive today.
This sounds very similar to rape cases where people say “well if she hadn’t been drinking and wearing a short skirt, she wouldn’t have gotten raped”. You are taking ALL of the onus off of the person who actually committed the crime and putting it on the victim. He was shot 10+ times in the back and you seem to continue to think that’s his fault. I find that extremely egregious. IMO.
 
  • #899
Some of the federal government want to double down, and many seem to view the detention of illegal immigrants as some sort of "war" where they use the word "capitulation" if they withdraw or alter methods. Rather than ask what is the right way to proceed in a democracy, the focus seems to be on popularity, and how to improve it.

"Some in the administration worry that public polling and sentiment has turned against the administration’s immigration actions in cities, and some discussions have centered on how to continue deportations without clashing with protesters, officials said. Trump adviser Stephen Miller has continued to push for aggressive immigration enforcement, arguing the administration shouldn’t back down in Minneapolis.​
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Trump administration officials said they were planning to make a concerted effort in the coming weeks to improve ICE’s image by highlighting what agents are doing in other places besides Minneapolis. Though officials have privately discussed polling showing the public is souring on their operations, many in the administration think that winding down their efforts in Minneapolis would amount to a capitulation to the left, the officials said."​


Clinton: “To make matters worse, those responsible have lied to us repeatedly, told us not to believe what we saw with our own eyes, and used increasingly aggressive and hostile tactics, including obstructing investigations by local authorities.”​
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Shortly after Pretti's death, the Department of Homeland Security said that Pretti "violently resisted" disarmament until officers fired "defensive shots." Bystander footage contradicts that version of events."​

I think if this was more obviously seen as being about dealing with active criminals and not about left vs right, there would be far less protesting against it.

Protecting citizens from in-the-moment crime is something that transcends political leanings. Everyone agrees that violent criminals should be apprehended by LE and taken to court and put in prison (or potentially removed from the country at some point after being found guilty if they are not a legal citizen).

As a non-US person there are aspects here that I don't understand. But I do believe that if people are clear on what crime was committed by an illegal alien (or anyone else) and that the individual is an ongoing threat, they wouldn't be likely to have a problem with that individual being apprehended by LE. I suspect that some of the hostility towards ICE started as some members of the public were not so clear on who was being targeted and what level of threat they posed? I think that's the point where the messaging and methods should have been reassessed rather than reaching a point where the Pretti killing became just about inevitable and there was then a series of clearly false claims made that he was brandishing a weapon and had an obvious aim to murder LE and civilians.

I'm torn as I want this to calm down, I want the apprehension of violent criminals done in the right way to protect innocent people and not have LE at risk either. But I am also really concerned about the strength of the immediate statements about the incident...do they have more of a political motivation than a motivation of justice and truth? Again, this is not something that should differ by political 'sides' as justice and truth also transcend 'sides' and I don't think the US is as split on issues like that as some might make out.
 
  • #900
Adding to the converation about Bovino's suspension from social media accounts:

Bovino would use one X account, @CMDROpAtLargeCA, to post multiple times a day, trolling his critics, sharing mugshots of immigrants his officers arrested, and publicizing his own appearances at press conferences and on cable news.


Sounds exactly like the kind of creep Noem would want to put in Minnesota: Does not follow the rules, openly flaunts information that should be professionally handled, wants to put the spotlight on himself.
 

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