MN - One dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

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Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun to a protest and that was absolutely fine. As was some of the J6 rioters taking guns to their 'protest'. Looks like we're back to '2nd amendment for me, but not for thee'.
Yes, that contradiction clearly exists amongst some conservatives.

But....

One of the men Rittenhouse shot also had a weapon (he even pointed it at Rittenhouse before being shot by him). Yet another BLM protester was captured on camera firing a pistol into air by when Rittenhouse walked by.

The fact that Rittenhouse is the subject of a focus, while two weapons carrying BLM protesters at the same event are ignored raises the question if your cited contradiction is solely restricted to conservatives.
 
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The targets of federal immigration enforcement that day are not known to the public, except the one target who it is reported (not by federal law enforcement) hid out in a local business building. There may have been other targets in the area, we don't know. Speculating about what federal immigration enforcements should or should not have done after they weren't immediately able to apprehend that target is just that, speculation. Maybe they were waiting for a warrant to arrive. Maybe they were rethinking their operations as they waited, etc. It is pure speculation that they should have left that area.

Whatever it is they should have been doing when the person they were chasing got away, I am 100% sure it wasnt passing the time by assaulting and executing citizens!
 
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Honestly I was just thinking of this and the fact that I am pretty sure there a number of attendees that concealed carried during some of the Anti-Lockdown Covid-19 protests too.
Also, let’s not forget the McCloskey’s

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Yes, that contradiction clearly exists amongst some conservatives.

But....

One of the men Rittenhouse shot also had a weapon (he even pointed it at Rittenhouse before being shot by him). Yet another BLM protester was captured on camera firing a pistol into air by when Rittenhouse walked by- but could not explain why he shot.

The fact that Rittenhouse is the subject of a focus, while two weapons carrying BLM protesters at the same event are ignored raises the question if your cited contradiction is solely restricted to conservatives.
I think he’s the focus because he shot 3 people and killed 2 of them that day? Yes he was legally able to carry a gun to that protest (even though the gun was purchased illegally and he carried it across state lines as a minor), but I’m pretty sure shooting and killing someone is against the law.

Edit: and I’m aware he was acquitted and it was found he acted in self defense. That’s great for him, I’m glad he was able to get due process and a fair and speedy trial.
 
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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem met with President Donald Trump in the Oval Office on Monday, two sources told ABC News, as the administration faces fallout over federal agent operations in Minnesota and Pretti's shooting.

Noem's top adviser, Corey Lewandowski, White House chief of staff Susie Wiles, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt and White House communications director Steven Cheung were also present, according to sources.
Noem met with Trump, other officials Monday: Sources

not present at that meeting was White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller
 
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Yes, that contradiction clearly exists amongst some conservatives.

But....

One of the men Rittenhouse shot also had a weapon (he even pointed it at Rittenhouse before being shot by him). Yet another BLM protester was captured on camera firing a pistol into air by when Rittenhouse walked by- but could not explain why he shot.

The fact that Rittenhouse is the subject of a focus, while two weapons carrying BLM protesters at the same event are ignored raises the question if your cited contradiction is solely restricted to conservatives.
Moo...no doubt about it, pointing and shooting a gun while protesting is over the line. But Mr Pretti was not doing that. Cameras and whistles are not weapons...moo
 
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I do not deny this fact, never did. In my opinion the man made a poor choice to do so that day, and under the totality of circumstances. It is also my opinion that had he not had that firearm on his person, and inserted himself in to the incident, he would likely be alive today.

In my opinion, his firearm in this case played a critical role in how the event unfolded, and will likely be a point of consideration in the investigation.
I’m not convinced at all that it wouldn’t have ended the same way had he not had a firearm on him. Nevermind the fact that he didn’t take it out, so how would they have known that before shooting him, 10 times, in the back while he was on his knees and blinded by pepper spray, 5 or 6 of the shots being as he lay lifeless on the ground, and then all the agents standing back dumbfounded for 30 seconds before rifling through his dead body, while simultaneously preventing a doctor from giving lifesaving CPR for at least two minutes.
 
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Actually this would have never happened if ICE wasn’t eagerly incompetent attacking citizen taxpayers just because they’re perpetually pissed off bullies mentally capable of shoving a women to the ground.

Guess the ICE mental fitness screening proudly matches the Department of War Monger ideals of comportment.

ICE is over their head, there’s been rapid hiring, apparent inadequate training on protester rights and safety, maintaining mental health fitness in high tension situations among other modules.

LE is trained when dealing with civil protest that their job is that of ensuring safety, protecting First Amendment Rights, ensuring operational continuity, and de-escalating potential conflicts with the public they serve.

Engaging in conversation with protesters to understand concerns and clarify expectations on both sides; learning to interact with counter protesters to prevent violence.

“Observe, Breathe, Connect” method is taught.

Thin skinned cold as ice ICE should have left when their prey alluded them and let local sworn officers provide community safety and care for their protesting citizenry.

ICE are emboldened by belligerent leadership, anonymity, celebrated dehumanization of “enemies” leading to them thinking themselves above the people they serve ex.“boo hoo” comment.

US taxpayers dollars are allocated by the Senate for ICE officers salary.

ICE officers take an oath to protect US citizens.



Imo
ICE are also emboldened by being able to cover their faces. Nothing to see here gentleman, move along.
 
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I’m not convinced at all that it wouldn’t have ended the same way had he not had a firearm on him. Nevermind the fact that he didn’t take it out, so how would they have known that before shooting him, 10 times, in the back while he was on his knees and blinded by pepper spray, 5 or 6 of the shots being as he lay lifeless on the ground, and then all the agents standing back dumbfounded for 30 seconds before rifling through his dead body, while simultaneously preventing a doctor from giving lifesaving CPR for at least two minutes.
They only knew he was not like them. They know that he saw them shove a woman to the ground. They know he attempted to help her up. He was murdered for all of this. THEY did not know he had his legally carried gun till the man in grey found it on him and ran off with it. Can't be more simple. They were going to main him with the pepper spray in his face, beat him on the ground, THEN one decided he would empty about 10 bullets into his back. NOTHING simpler than this. It is seen, it is known and the evidence is also known to any LE and investigators. Now, what will be done with this? IMO
 
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Nomenclature alert: protesting is now referred to in some circles as “interfering”.

There is no change in meaning beyond being a preferred word with a hoped but failed negative connotation by individuals that don’t understand the Constitution.

Or the role of federal employees on home ground or states rights or civil rights history but I digress, the President doesn’t either.

Used in a sentence: On Jan 6 there were waves of armed persons entering the Capital interfering with the peaceful transfer of power.

All Capital interference persons loved, forgiven, completely absolved and exalted!

So let’s us embrace any reference to interfering its a good thing only mean unfair people who don’t love pardons for criminals would think it’s not.


*Mr. Pretti was a hero, like all Nurses, but I thank him in addition to that for his special service to the medical care of the Veterans.




All imo
 
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So many posts attempting to smear the victim!
Seems the cult of Fox entertainment and Newsmax believers have swallowed it all hook line & sinker
 
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They only knew he was not like them. They know that he saw them shove a woman to the ground. They know he attempted to help her up. He was murdered for all of this. THEY did not know he had his legally carried gun till the man in grey found it on him and ran off with it. Can't be more simple. They were going to main him with the pepper spray in his face, beat him on the ground, THEN one decided he would empty about 10 bullets into his back. NOTHING simpler than this. It is seen, it is known and the evidence is also known to any LE and investigators. Now, what will be done with this? IMO
Moo... actually it was 2 separate ice agents. One shot first then the second shot after while he was probably already dead....moo
 
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Keep in mind that Minnesota law states that the permit to carry must be on the person when they carry along with ID. He did not have those. So, he may not have been lawfully carrying.
So far I’ve only heard DHS say he didn’t have an ID. Forgive me if I never believe another word they say. If there is a link to an entity other than one within the administration, I would love to see it.
 
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Seems the cult of Fox entertainment and Newsmax believers have swallowed it all hook line & sinker
Expect nothing more really, It's easier for them in their lives. IMO
 
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Seems the cult of Fox entertainment and Newsmax believers have swallowed it all hook line & sinker
I have one in my family and recognize the exact same talking points. (Plus toss in "whataboutthefraud?!")
jmo
 
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Moo... actually it was 2 separate ice agents. One shot first then the second shot after while he was probably already dead....moo
My God.
 
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I have one in my family and recognize the exact same talking points. (Plus toss in "whataboutthefraud?!")
jmo
Or past presidents, it’s like they can’t keep the conversation on the present regime and what’s happening

Blinders on tightly and helmets impenetrable to facts
 
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quite frankly, I don't know that the victim in this case DIDN'T have ID on him.

I only know that the same agency that lied to us about him assaulting agents and having plans to unleash maximum damage upon agents CLAIMS that is the case. I don't find that agency credible. JMO MOO IMO

And if perchance he did not have his ID on him, there is a penalty under the law that covers such a misdemeanor infraction, and it isn't death.
I agree with you here. I know a number of folks on this thread are clinging onto the "no ID". But WHO truly stated that.
If anyone can post articles or msm items that state this, would you please add here?
I, quite honestly, do not even know where it came from.
 
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That comment was in regards to discussion about documenting
to which clearly that book was a very important historical document. I am not exploiting the holocaust. I myself have been keeping documentation of current events to be able to share with family later on. We are in historical times right now.

I believe that some exploitation of the Holocaust theme is inappropriate.

For example, the side-to-side photo of Pretti being shot (pistol to his head)

And a man, sitting on the border of a trench, with a Nazi German putting a pistol to his head -

IMHO, should not be used for two reasons:

- considering the feelings of Pretti’s family

- and considering that the other (Holocaust-time) picture represents the last of the Jews executed in Vinnitsa, a Ukrainian city, during Nazi occupation.

I have seen it in many SMs and while I can understand the wish to deliver a powerful message, it is not that message.

Anne Frank’s diary is, and can be mentioned, IMHO. It is a very powerful document that transcends even the Holocaust and raises a lot of issues related to life, death, morality, the decision that people “not involved” might take.

Of non-Holocaust themes, the Stanford Prison Experiment by Phil Zimbardo (the book has a different name, “the Lucifer effect”) can be used.

Remember, as part of the experiment, Zimbardo deprived both “the prisoners” and the “guards” of names and (!) - the guards were allowed to wear masks.

The question of the legality of masked law enforcement can, and should, be raised when contacting our state representatives, IMHO.

JMO.
 
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Minneapolis mayor Jacob Frey said he told Trump’s border czar, that the city “does not and will not” enforce federal immigration law and urged an end to Operation Metro Surge “as quickly as possible”.

In a statement, Frey said he was joined by police chief Brian O’Hara for a “productive” meeting with Homan.

“I reiterated that my main ask is for Operation Metro Surge to come to an end as quickly as possible,” Frey said.

He continued: “I shared with Mr. Homan the serious negative impacts this operation has had on Minneapolis and surrounding communities, as well as the strain it has placed on our local police officers.

“I also made it clear that Minneapolis does not and will not enforce federal immigration laws, and that we will remain focused on keeping our neighbors and streets safe.”

Trump administration officials have repeatedly blamed so-called “sanctuary” laws for exacerbating tensions on the ground. Minneapolis, along with Hennepin County, restricts coordination between local law enforcement and federal immigration agents.

In a Wall Street Journal op-ed on Monday, the state’s governor, Tim Walz forcefully rebutted the administration’s claim that state prisons simply release the “worst of the worst” onto the streets.

“In reality, the Minnesota Department of Corrections honors all federal and local detainers by notifying Immigration and Customs Enforcement when a person committed to its custody isn’t a US citizen,” Walz wrote. “There is not a single documented case of the department’s releasing someone from state prison without offering to ensure a smooth transfer of custody.”

 

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