MN - One dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

[Amonet]

That lacks logic as from all reports ICE was busy shoving women to the ground and weren’t even aware of the gun held legally by the gentleman Nurse assisting a brutally attacked women.

It appears the [mod ship] murdered the Nurse because they were enraged he was providing care to their victim not becouse of a gun that they didn’t know of.

I hope it wasn’t too late to do drug tests on those ICE officers.


Imo

I'm afraid it does appear that they were angry that someone tried to go to the aid of someone they had shoved to the ground. And that they really took out that anger on Mr Pretti. Someone helping the woman to her feet and checking she's okay wouldn't have interfered with their duties.

I don't think this is behaviour becoming of LE.

I've also noticed disagreement when some posters have used the word "murder" about this incident. I think it's fair to say that those officers didn't have intent to kill before Mr Pretti was on the ground. But what about manslaughter instead of "murder"? Sometimes people can use those two words interchangeably in common speech even though they have different legal meanings.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

Keep in mind that Minnesota law states that the permit to carry must be on the person when they carry along with ID. He did not have those. So, he may not have been lawfully carrying.

Minneapolis shooting: What we know about death of Alex Pretti

Trump officials says federal agents shot in self-defence, as Pretti's parents accuse them of "sickening lies".

www.bbc.com

That would only be relevant if they had asked him for it, which they did not before they pumped him full of lead. And also, before we assume he didn't follow the law, I'd like some evidence. Media parrots what the administration tells them and they've already lied about this situation ("brandishing" his gun?) and been proven to be liars by video. So their credibility is nil, in my book.

MOO.

 

[Emerald1328]

Leaving this here in case anyone is interested.

CBP Use of Force policy documents:

Use of Force Policy and Administrative Guidelines and Procedures Handbook

Securing America's Borders

www.cbp.gov

CBP database of policies, procedures and directives:

Policies, Procedures and Directives

Securing America's Borders

www.cbp.gov

ICE Use of Force policy:

https://www.ice.gov/doclib/detention-standards/2011/2-15.pdf

ICE database of policies, procedures and manuals:

FOIA ICE Library (You will have to select Policies, Procedures and Manuals under the Category drop down)

DHS Use of Force policy:

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2023-02/23_0206_s1_use-of-force-policy-update.pdf

 

[Emerald1328]

I certainly dont see it that way. ICE has requested that Minneapolis police assist with crowd control in these situations. The Mayor wont allow it. They aren't asking MPD to help them with the immigration arrests, just to keep the peace. Isn't that a police department's job? Neither one of these fatal shootings would have happened if police had been on scene to help with crowd control.

There are approximately 600 police officers in Minneapolis and 3,000 ICE/CBP agents. If police officers are expected to assist them with protestors, then it is completely irresponsible of the government to have that many agents there conducting operations. Many videos I’ve seen coming out of Minneapolis of ICE/CBP seems to have 10 agents on every operation (who knows why they would need 10 people to capture 1 bad guy though).

I’ll be completely generous in my math here. Let’s say 25% of the agents have the day off in any given day (not likely). That leaves 2,250 agents conducting operations in a given day. Let’s say 250 of those are doing administrative tasks and aren’t in the field. So probably, at the very least, 2,000 agents conducting operations a day. Let’s say each operation takes 10 people. So that’s 200 operations a day. If the police had to put even one of their officers on each operation for crowd control, that would be 200 of 600 police officers unable to help residents of their city. 1/3 of the police force. Even less than that as I suspect only 400 or so work at a given time because of different shifts, vacations, training, etc - so half of their available police force. How inappropriate of our government to take away police officers from Minneapolis citizens. Who would protect them from all the illegal immigrants in the city until they were able to round them all up?

 

[SouthAussie]

i wonder if any drug tests were done on the ice agents? because this behavior is so unhinged, it makes me wonder if they were sober? and i hope they look into how they have handled previous cases, because does a person really go from doing his job well to this? it’s a big escalation. jmo.

Regular steroid use can also lead to roid rage. I believe roid rage is a quick escalation.

In the case of the journalist being offered an ICE job, she had used marijuana prior to her drug testing. Still passed.

(I read her entire article in Slate. Her Slate article is linked within the previous Guardian article I linked. She speaks of steroids due to the appearance of others applying for an ICE job at the same time that she applied in person.)

imo


“Nine days later, impatience got the best of me. For the first time, I logged into USAJobs and checked my application to see if my drug test had come through. What I actually saw was so implausible, so impossible, that at first I did not understand what I was looking at,” she wrote.

She discovered that ICE appeared to have formally offered her a job even though she had not submitted key documents, including a domestic violence affidavit, background check authorization, or identification details. Her onboarding status was shown as “Entered on Duty.”

Anti-Trump US reporter says she was offered job at ICE after ‘minimal vetting’

Slate journalist Laura Jedeed documented hiring process and said she got offer despite not completing paperwork

www.theguardian.com

 

[Amonet]

ICE is there trying to do their jobs and mobs keep interfering. If people just videoed from the sidewalk etc there wouldn't be a problem.

Although he had stepped into the road, it appeared that Mr Pretti was basically just videotaping what was happening. Then he moved to go to the assistance of a woman who'd been shoved, and that's when the situation severely deteriorated. I think this is why so many people are upset as he does seem to be doing more or less what you're suggesting should be acceptable?

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

Can you please show in that article where it says he didn’t have his permit on him? I read it twice and never saw anything that said that. You stated it like it was a fact.

Edit, I apologize, I did see the quote in the article about him not having ID.

From the article:
"
After the shooting, DHS shared a photo of a firearm on social media, which they said belonged to Pretti. The agency also said he had two magazines of ammunition and no ID.

Bovino told reporters it looked like a "situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement". He did not provide any further evidence."

I wouldn't believe one single solitary word that comes out of Bovino or anyone in the administration in this matter. They have literally lied from the start, even in that article by claiming how violent Pretti was, as if we didn't see it unfold with our own eyes.

MOO.

 

[Oakland CA]

NEW: US Customs & Border Protection distributes its official "in-custody death notification" for Alex Pretti

Feds began providing medical aid at 902am

Minneapolis fire/EMS arrived to provide aid at 905am

Pretti was placed in ambulance at 914am

Pronounced dead at 932am

https://twitter.com/x/status/2016270591595315659

For perspective, could someone add into the timeline...

- What time the first of the ten shots was fired
- The time that the ice guys started rifling through the victim's pockets and/or rolling his body
around to count the bullet wounds.

Thanks

 

[Amonet]

SBM

Protecting criminal and other illegal immigrants? How is that their job?

I don't think that is how they perceive what they are doing.

 

[SouthAussie]

For perspective, could someone add into the timeline...

- What time the first of the ten shots were fired
- The time that the ice guys started rifling through the victim's pockets and/or rolling his body
around to count the bullet wounds.

Thanks

5 seconds for 10 shots to be fired.

9:01:13 a.m. -- One of the federal officers appears to remove a gun from Pretti's waist that seems to match the handgun federal officials said he was carrying.

9:01:14 a.m. -- First shot is fired. At least one officer immediately steps away from Pretti.

9:01:16 a.m. -- One second after the first shot, three additional shots are fired. Pretti appears to go limp and fall to the ground.

9:01:19 a.m. -- Within three seconds, six more shots are fired. The six agents have stepped back from Pretti’s body.

A minute-by-minute timeline of the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti involving federal agents

In total, 10 shots were fired in less than five seconds, according to a forensic audio analysis of the videos conducted for ABC News.

abcnews.go.com

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

Boy, lots of people want to put words in my mouth this morning I guess. I am pointing out that Pretti was not in fact legally carrying that morning. Nothing more.

And there's no evidence to substantiate this claim. It's an unbelievable claim that someone who literally went to the protest in order to ensure the law was being followed would not have ID on him. It's as absurd as the claim that he was violent or that he brandished his weapon.

MOO.

 

[Oakland CA]

5 seconds for 10 shots to be fired.

9:01:13 a.m. -- One of the federal officers appears to remove a gun from Pretti's waist that seems to match the handgun federal officials said he was carrying.

9:01:14 a.m. -- First shot is fired. At least one officer immediately steps away from Pretti.

9:01:16 a.m. -- One second after the first shot, three additional shots are fired. Pretti appears to go limp and fall to the ground.

9:01:19 a.m. -- Within three seconds, six more shots are fired. The six agents have stepped back from Pretti’s body.

A minute-by-minute timeline of the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti involving federal agents

In total, 10 shots were fired in less than five seconds, according to a forensic audio analysis of the videos conducted for ABC News.

abcnews.go.com

Thank You SA

 

[Amonet]

I reject the idea that enforcing border laws is comparable to the systematic genocide of over 6,000,000 Jews.

Agreed wholeheartedly.

I also think some of the comparisons being made recently refer more to other aspects of the actions, policies, and beliefs of the regime in question and not solely focused on individuals of a single religion and how horrifically they were treated by that regime. There were other horrors to that regime and there were other people targeted by that regime.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

SBM

Here is the article from representatives of the U.S. Holocaust Museum and why they find it inappropriate.

ETA link

MSN

They actually didn't state why. Unless I missed it? Why is it inappropriate?

 

[Marantz4250b]

That would only be relevant if they had asked him for it, which they did not before they pumped him full of lead. And also, before we assume he didn't follow the law, I'd like some evidence. Media parrots what the administration tells them and they've already lied about this situation ("brandishing" his gun?) and been proven to be liars by video. So their credibility is nil, in my book.

MOO.

Indeed.

And anyway, they shot an unarmed man in the back who was pinned to the ground at the time. Even if you could excuse away the first few rounds fired in the initial mele, which you can't, it certainly could never justify the second fusilade of at least five rounds fired into him when he was likely already dead or mortally wounded.

Even if he'd just finished wiping out a classroom of children, it is still grossly unlawful to shoot an unarmed man, who was posing no threat to you, to death simply because you have the ability to do so. That's still murder!

 

[kuromiiiilove]

And there's no evidence to substantiate this claim. It's an unbelievable claim that someone who literally went to the protest in order to ensure the law was being followed would not have ID on him. It's as absurd as the claim that he was violent or that he brandished his weapon.

MOO.

Maybe his wallet was in his car and he stepped out of his car, like he did for his first encounter with ICE. I wonder if DHS may be betting on a technicality here. MOO

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

i think it’s also the cruelty of it all that’s so disheartening. the overkill, saying “boo hoo”, going through his pockets instead of performing cpr, not letting a doctor perform cpr. and then the lies, the victim blaming and the deflecting after. i hope people will still be brave enough to document what is happening in the future, and to help up a fellow human who was pushed down.

i wonder if any drug tests were done on the ice agents? because this behavior is so unhinged, it makes me wonder if they were sober? and i hope they look into how they have handled previous cases, because does a person really go from doing his job well to this? it’s a big escalation. jmo.

I wouldn't be surprised. They handled this so poorly that I believe it would constitute a charge of gross malpractice in vetting new recruits and increasing numbers. I actually hope there is some criminal culpability for how horribly this was handled by Noem. IMO, she's as responsible as the agent(s?) who pulled the trigger on Pretti.

ICE error meant some recruits were sent into field offices without proper training, sources say

An AI tool used to help ICE identify potential new recruits with law enforcement experience wrongly categorized some potential new officers, sources say.

www.nbcnews.com

ICE error meant some recruits were sent into field offices without proper training, sources say

An AI tool used to help ICE identify potential new recruits with law enforcement experience wrongly categorized some potential new officers, sources say.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

There is no "humanitarian duty" to interfere with federal immigration officers who are following the law and arresting illegal immigrants. The humanitarian duty would have been to never encourage millions of people to enter our country illegally.

Can you define the interference? What exactly did Pretti do that you consider to be interfering with immigration officers? I'm not seeing it.

 

[K9Enzo]

And there's no evidence to substantiate this claim. It's an unbelievable claim that someone who literally went to the protest in order to ensure the law was being followed would not have ID on him. It's as absurd as the claim that he was violent or that he brandished his weapon.

MOO.

He had no authority to "ensure the law was being followed". None. Zero

Any what, exactly, was he supposed to do if he thought the law was being broken? Intervene, insert himself into an active federal operation, approach working federal agents? Close distance and record based on how close he wanted to be? Ignore agent commands?

IMO

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

He had no authority to "ensure the law was being followed". None. Zero

You're right, he had no "authority." But he had a RIGHT to do so. It is literally his birthright to publicly observe law enforcement operations and protest.

Any what, exactly, was he supposed to do if he thought the law was being broken? Intervene, insert himself into an active federal operation, approach working federal agents? Close distance and record based on how close he wanted to be? Ignore agent commands?

IMO

OF course not. What he was supposed to do is witness it (literally the job of a legal observer) and film it. He never once "intervened" or "inserted himself." He followed the law and exercised his rights. When we start killing US citizens for exercising their rights, then who the hell are we as a nation?

What commands did he ignore and where can I see evidence of it?

MOO.