MN - One dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

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And now Bovino is whisked out of town, soon to retire.

jmopinion

He said that after retirement, he planned to grow apples in California. The public should let him retire in peace, just check that he doesn’t hire illegal immigrants to work in his apple orchard. I wonder how he’ll name the new variety of his apples?
 
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There are approximately 600 police officers in Minneapolis and 3,000 ICE/CBP agents. If police officers are expected to assist them with protestors, then it is completely irresponsible of the government to have that many agents there conducting operations. Many videos I’ve seen coming out of Minneapolis of ICE/CBP seems to have 10 agents on every operation (who knows why they would need 10 people to capture 1 bad guy though).

I’ll be completely generous in my math here. Let’s say 25% of the agents have the day off in any given day (not likely). That leaves 2,250 agents conducting operations in a given day. Let’s say 250 of those are doing administrative tasks and aren’t in the field. So probably, at the very least, 2,000 agents conducting operations a day, at minimum. Let’s say each operation takes 10 people. So that’s 200 operations a day. If the police had to put even one of their officers on each operation for crowd control, that would be 200 of 600 police officers unable to help residents of their city. 1/3 of the police force. Even less than that as I suspect only 400 or so work at a given time because of different shifts, vacations, training, etc - so half of their available police force. How inappropriate of our government to take away police officers from Minneapolis citizens. Who would protect them from all the illegal immigrants in the city until they were able to round them all up?


The math just might begin to suggest that ICE and border patrol are over staffed for doing ICE and border patrol things. Border patrol, especially, does not belong so far from a federal border. To my eyes, there are always way too many agents present for each arrest.

Those numbers are probably why MN accused the Federal Govt in court of having a punitive agenda. And those numbers are probably why judges are asking the Federal Government to respond to that accusation.

MOO
 
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Guy Reffitt, Christopher Alberts, Mark Ibrahim (an off duty DEA agent), Lonnie Coffman had a truck with a handgun, a rifle and a shotgun, machetes, Molotoff cocktails. All convicted, all pardoned by Trump. I'm surprised that this is the first time you've heard of this. I'm operating on the assumption that these guys were the unlucky ones who got caught. There were also people who brought less obvious weapons like flagpoles, bear and pepper spray, baseball bats. I live in Canada and it was all over the news in legitimate papers like WaPo, BBC, CNN, Al Jazeera, The Guardian, The Toronto Star, The Globe and Mail, NPR, Associated Press, Bloomberg. What was your news source?
You'd have to be living in a cave or your head buried in the sand to not know this.
 
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You'd have to be living in a cave or your head buried in the sand to not know this.
Not wanting to know is one thing but to state as a fact? Wow, bizarro world. IMO
 
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Further to hear ICE officers broke Mr. Pretti’s rib previously along with their admitting to tracking protesters I’m even more convinced they recognized him as the whistler and carried out a premeditated devastating attack.
Yes, I believe Mr. Pretti was targeted and have no doubt premeditation was involved.
I hope that is relayed to the jury, if and when necessary.
 
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While I wouldn't compare AP to anyone, his second 'intervention' that led to his death was to go to the assistance of a woman who'd been shoved to the snowy/icy ground. He appeared to want to help the woman up, not to be threatening the officer who shoved her.

I think on a human level it could be understandable that someone might want to shove that officer back and have some strong words in his face. But it didn't look like that's what AP was doing.

The woman being shoved to the ground did not involve AP in any way. What kind of a person would want to go to her assistance and help her up? It might sound like I'm being funny here, but I'm not....I'm saying that these actions are really hard to see a bad side in them.

What did the officers think he was going to do to the woman that warranted tear gassing him and tackling him to the ground?
I do not understand why they did not just handcuff him and detain him- not that I think he deserved that, but they could have checked his identity and he would still be alive. I just do not get it; do they not have handcuffs? He really was not an aggressive person. And I also do not understand why they knocked the woman down first- knocking some one on the ground - is that a standard procedure? Not sure what she was doing or saying that they saw as obstruction or worse.
 
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I don’t consider humans wanting and working for a better life as illegal
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Your consideration notwithstanding, they are illegal immigrants. They have entered our country illegally, i.e. they have broken the law.
 
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The math just might begin to suggest that ICE and border patrol are over staffed for doing ICE and border patrol things. Border patrol, especially, does not belong so far from a federal border. To my eyes, there are always way too many agents present for each arrest.

Those numbers are probably why MN accused the Federal Govt in court of having a punitive agenda. And those numbers are probably why judges are asking the Federal Government to respond to that accusation.

MOO
Yes, why were 2000 agents sent to Minnesota of all places and then 1000 more sent after one of the agents killed Renee?

jmopinion
 
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Not wanting to know is one thing but to state as a fact? Wow, bizarro world. IMO
The alternative facts people well and truly jumped the shark a long time ago. IMO
 
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I haven't been on in a long time, however I hoped my fellow sleuths might be finding details to help explain what looks like from the video stills to be the second public assasination of a law abiding citizen. Has anyone identified the woman Pretti was trying to help and where she is now?
 
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I haven't been on in a long time, however I hoped my fellow sleuths might be finding details to help explain what looks like from the video stills to be the second public assasination of a law abiding citizen. Has anyone identified the woman Pretti was trying to help and where she is now?
I haven’t seen anywhere where she’s been named or that she’s spoken out. I hope she is safe.
 
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Your consideration notwithstanding, they are illegal immigrants. They have entered our country illegally, i.e. they have broken the law.
Except not all immigrants being detained and deported were illegal…



“In the past 11 months, the Trump administration has stripped more than 1.6 million people of legal status”

One example is the now viral ‘Little Liam’, the 5 year old who was taken with his father by ICE at their home. His father has committed no crimes and was following all protocols for legally seeking asylum in the US. Thankfully, a judge has just blocked Liam’s deportation.


ETA another example of two children being deported that were U.S Citizens:


“NBC News reports that, according to a lawyer with the National Immigration Project, the two children, ages 4 and 7, were put on their mother’s deportation flight the day after they were all detained on April 24.”

Another article to help inform you: Migrants in U.S. legally and with no criminal history caught up in Trump crackdown
 

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Your consideration notwithstanding, they are illegal immigrants. They have entered our country illegally, i.e. they have broken the law.
Given alot of these people they are detaining and deporting have been in the US for a very long time, have established lives and many are upstanding people contributing to the US economy and community, why would the government not be conducting a more stringent approach such as considering each person's situation, criminal status and time in the country?

Resources cannot be an excuse for not doing this as the government certainly pulled resources very quickly for the current ICE operations.

IMO its very dangerous to slap a label on ALL illegal immigrants, and certainly a human rights concern. Someone who has been living most of their life in the US being dragged into a vehicle by a mass of masked men (some women), often involving children and families being physically ripped apart, dumped in a country unfamiliar to them with no support and possible risk to their safety? Where is the humanity in this? And before someone says 'but they broke the law', maybe consider that life isn't black and white. Where is the compassion in saying, well you fled to the US illegally, we owe you nothing. I actually don't believe this is what the US was built on, but correct me if this assumption is wrong?

Trump seems to IMO want world domination, well what a contradiction to then consider people who are not US citizens irrelevant and undeserving of simple empathy and compassion.

I can't understand how hard some people are fighting tooth and nail to justify Alex' death and/or the behaviours of ICE and the overall government's behaviour and choices right now. Is it uncomfortable for you to change your way of thinking, is it that you have ridden the horse too far now and pride won't let you back down? When humans start accepting this type of callous behaviour against others, I can only shake my head and think IMO there is so much hope lost for the future. Let's hope the same people positioning themselves as more righteous or deserving than those being targeted (not the so called violent criminals of course), that you are never in a situation where you need to flee the US and every country shuts the doors to you.
 
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Except not all immigrants being detained and deported were illegal…



“In the past 11 months, the Trump administration has stripped more than 1.6 million people of legal status”

One example is the now viral ‘Little Liam’, the 5 year old who was taken with his father by ICE at their home. His father has committed no crimes and was following all protocols for legally seeking asylum in the US. Thankfully, a judge has just blocked Liam’s deportation.

NOT at all. I don't think some want to have to pay attention to the reality going on. Suits them. These are the ones, the assaulting of people, detaining and causing physical harm to them that don't make national news. There are SO many more, there has to be going by the mentality and go ahead of the admin. as we've seen. It was OK to kill and condoned. IMO
 
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Except not all immigrants being detained and deported were illegal…



“In the past 11 months, the Trump administration has stripped more than 1.6 million people of legal status”

One example is the now viral ‘Little Liam’, the 5 year old who was taken with his father by ICE at their home. His father has committed no crimes and was following all protocols for legally seeking asylum in the US. Thankfully, a judge has just blocked Liam’s deportation.


ETA another example of two children being deported that were U.S Citizens:


“NBC News reports that, according to a lawyer with the National Immigration Project, the two children, ages 4 and 7, were put on their mother’s deportation flight the day after they were all detained on April 24.”
There’s also stories like this, a Maryland woman who was born in the US was detained for 25 days, despite her lawyers presenting her US birth certificate. She was finally released in early January. Where exactly were they going to deport her to?

 
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There’s also stories like this, a Maryland woman who was born in the US was detained for 25 days, despite her lawyers presenting her US birth certificate. She was finally released in early January. Where exactly were they going to deport her to?

Betcha anything ICE will count people like this when they brag how many people they have found. imo

jmopinion
 
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Is this a serious question?


“However, court records show, opens new tab at least five cases where carrying or possessing a firearm was part of the indictment. A summary, opens new tab of the cases by the Justice Department as of Jan. 3 said 180 defendants were charged with entering a restricted area with a dangerous or deadly weapon, which includes firearms and other types of weapons.”


“But a review by CBS News shows several Jan. 6 defendants who were charged in connection with the siege were carrying firearms on the Capitol grounds. Some pleaded guilty and acknowledged criminal misconduct. One Illinois man was accused of firing a gun into the air as rioters stormed the Capitol.”


“Underneath the hooded jacket, complainants both saw a stock of an AR-15. He's going to be with a group of individuals, about 5'8", 5'9", skinny white males, brown cowboy boots. They had Glock-style pistols in their waistband.” - in this same article, Hutchinson testifies that even Trump knew J6ers had weapons.

We do know that an unarmed civilian and U.S. Air Force veteran who was protesting peacefully on January 6th was murdered by a capitol police officer and her case was reviewed privately and to this day there has been no accountability for the officer who murdered her. She was unarmed at the time of her murder.
 
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We do know that an unarmed civilian and U.S. Air Force veteran who was protesting peacefully on January 6th was murdered by a capitol police officer and her case was reviewed privately and to this day there has been no accountability for the officer who murdered her. She was unarmed at the time of her murder.
It seems as though we are being provoked into reciprocal violence, and innocent people are being used to bait us. The photograph of Alex Pretti's parents is heartbreaking. That's what stirred me to shake off the dust and help see what we can find.
 

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We do know that an unarmed civilian and U.S. Air Force veteran who was protesting peacefully on January 6th was murdered by a capitol police officer and her case was reviewed privately and to this day there has been no accountability for the officer who murdered her. She was unarmed at the time of her murder.
Babbitt was trying to climb through a smashed in window beside a barricaded door into the House Speaker's Lobby, at which point she was shot in the shoulder. We all watched that. She was also a member of the far right QAnon. She meant harm. The door was between her and her co rioters, protecting the members of Congress, hiding in terror. Watch their interviews. See the vids, there are a lot. NO comparison, not a leg to stand on here. SO, protesting peacefully? No, please. It's on camera, video and so on. Nothing should of been done for her. People that knew her prior were shocked at how she had turned into that person, but she did. IMO
 
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I haven't been on in a long time, however I hoped my fellow sleuths might be finding details to help explain what looks like from the video stills to be the second public assasination of a law abiding citizen. Has anyone identified the woman Pretti was trying to help and where she is now?
  • Identification and Account: The woman, who has not been widely named in all reports but is identified in some legal contexts as a legal observer, recently filed a sworn affidavit. She stated she had been shoved to the ground by federal agents and that Alex Pretti moved toward her to shield and help her up.
  • Legal Status: She and another woman were reportedly detained at the scene, held for approximately an hour, and then released with a citation for impeding federal officers.
  • Current Involvement: She is now a central witness in legal filings demanding an independent investigation into the shooting. In her statement, she described locking eyes with Pretti moments before the gunfire and emphasized that his focus was entirely on her safety.
Source Court Affidavits
 

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