MN - Philando Castile, 32, fatally shot by police officer, 6 July 2016 #2

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Ramsey County attorney's office has a new "FAQ" up on their website on the Castile case:

https://www.ramseycounty.us/content/frequently-asked-questions-regarding-castile-case

**Public statements by officials are not copyrighted, so not subject to the 10% rule. Will paste the whole statement here.

Frequently asked questions regarding Castile case

Why did it take so long for the case to get to the Ramsey County Attorney’s Office (RCAO)?

In Minnesota, officer-involved shootings typically take up to six months to investigate. As of today, the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension’s (BCA) ongoing investigation has been presented to the RCAO within a period of 12 weeks. Each police-involved shooting incident has a unique set of facts and related investigative challenges. The job of the investigative agency assigned to the case is to thoroughly gather all of the facts that will be helpful in determining whether any criminal charges are warranted.

What has your office been doing to prepare to handle the case?

In anticipation of receiving this case, Ramsey County Attorney John Choi appointed a special prosecutor, Don Lewis, to bring independent perspective to our prosecution team, which has been meeting regularly. We are currently in the process of retaining additional expertise in the form of national use-of-force consultants to assist in our prosecution review and evaluation of the BCA investigation. A use-of-force expert will help identify further areas of investigation and answer prosecutors’ questions around the reasonableness of the officer’s actions from an objective standpoint. A key point of inquiry is whether the officer’s subjective belief that deadly force was necessary, was objectively reasonable and justified under the totality of the circumstances.

What happens now that the case has been presented to the RCAO?

In Minnesota, each crime has elements which are established by the state legislature. In order for a defendant to be found guilty of a crime, the prosecutor must prove each and every element beyond a reasonable doubt. In addition, in an officer-involved shooting incident that results in death, the prosecutor must prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the use of deadly force was not justified as established by Minnesota law and the United States Supreme Court. Our prosecution review will first focus on ensuring all of the facts of this case have been adequately gathered to make a charging decision.

When will you make a formal charging decision?

Our office will work as efficiently as possible, while ensuring we conduct a diligent and thorough prosecution review of the BCA investigation, in order to determine what justice requires in this case. It is very likely that we will be requesting further investigation from the BCA, as is typical in these types of cases. We cannot provide an estimated timeline for our work until we review the entire investigative file and meet with national use-of-force consultants. By way of reference only, in the case of the officer-involved shooting incident of Jamar Clark in Hennepin County, the prosecution review took a total of seven weeks.

Are you going to present the case to a Grand Jury?

Whether our office makes a charging decision or we turn it over it to the grand jury to enable our community to decide, there are benefits to both approaches. I outlined some of the considerations around whether to use a grand jury during a July 8, 2016 appearance on Almanac, which I encourage you to watch. When a decision is made, we will notify both the Castile family and the public.

When will you release the (dash cam) video?

We understand that many in our community are anxious to see more evidence as quickly as possible. We will release the video to the public once we are confident that the timing in doing so won’t adversely affect the ongoing investigation or possible prosecution.

Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2016 - 4:25 p.m.
 
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Ramsey County Attorney John Choi released a statement late on Wednesday:

Our office will work as efficiently as possible, while ensuring we conduct a diligent and thorough prosecution review of the BCA investigation, in order to determine what justice requires in this case. At this time, we are in the process of engaging national use-of-force consultants to assist in our prosecution review and evaluation of the BCA investigation. Also, it is very likely that we will be requesting further investigation from the BCA, as is typical in these types of cases.

On August 2, 2016, I met with the Castile family and shared details with them on how we will proceed with our prosecution review and our intention to be diligent and thorough in our work.

We cannot provide an estimated timeline for our work until we review the entire investigative file and meet with national use-of-force consultants. Our engagement of such expert consultants will begin as early as tomorrow. By way of reference only, in the case of the officer-involved shooting incident of Jamar Clark in Hennepin County, the prosecution review took a total of seven weeks.

Former U.S. Attorney Tom Heffelfinger, who is not involved in this case, believes Choi will take even longer than the seven weeks Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman took with the Clark case.

"After reviewing the file, the prosecutors will almost certainly tell the BCA they have questions and tell the BCA to do further investigation," Heffelfinger said.

http://www.kare11.com/news/bca-completes-investigation-into-philando-castile-death/327392686

BBM
 
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Minnesota governor appoints police-community council, including Black Lives Matter rep

With his arm embracing Philando Castile’s mother, Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton walked out of a Capitol briefing room on Wednesday trying to find answers to rebuilding trust with police departments across the state.

Just moments before, Gov. Dayton signed an executive order creating a Council on Law Enforcement and Community Relations. The goal of the 32-member panel is to come up with recommendations for police agencies and legislators on how to rebuild citizen trust with police.

“This is all about relationships,” said Chief Scott Johnson of the Grand Rapids Police Department. “If you don’t have trust, you don’t have relationships.”


Fifteen voting members and 17 ex-officio members, including one representative each from:

Black Lives Matter
The Council on American-Islamic Relations
The faith-based group ISAIAH
Minnesota Tribal Nations
The Minnesota County Attorneys Association

This kind of council is one of the solutions Campaign Zero and BLM has recommended. Good to know someone is paying attention.

I know this news won't be surprising to human. :)
 
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Minnesota governor appoints police-community council, including Black Lives Matter rep




Fifteen voting members and 17 ex-officio members, including one representative each from:

Black Lives Matter
The Council on American-Islamic Relations
The faith-based group ISAIAH
Minnesota Tribal Nations
The Minnesota County Attorneys Association

This kind of council is one of the solutions Campaign Zero and BLM has recommended. Good to know someone is paying attention.

I know this news won't be surprising to human. :)

Wow, finally someone 'in charge' is addressing the issue of trust between LE and the paying public.

With his arm embracing Philando Castile’s mother, Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton walked out of a Capitol briefing room on Wednesday trying to find answers to rebuilding trust with police departments across the state.

http://www.fox9.com/news/211164609-story

Not the first time this issue being the core problem has been posted on WS - ahem
 
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Minnesota governor appoints police-community council, including Black Lives Matter rep




Fifteen voting members and 17 ex-officio members, including one representative each from:

Black Lives Matter
The Council on American-Islamic Relations
The faith-based group ISAIAH
Minnesota Tribal Nations
The Minnesota County Attorneys Association

This kind of council is one of the solutions Campaign Zero and BLM has recommended. Good to know someone is paying attention.

I know this news won't be surprising to human. :)

Luv the Gov! Too bad he is not running again. A super rich man with a heart of gold. He is the worst speaker, no charisma, but so excellent. MN is doing fabulous in so many reviews such as employment, quality of life. Hopefully, this will move MN further along in the issue of racial disparity.
 
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Luv the Gov! Too bad he is not running again. A super rich man with a heart of gold. He is the worst speaker, no charisma, but so excellent. MN is doing fabulous in so many reviews such as employment, quality of life. Hopefully, this will move MN further along in the issue of racial disparity.

Well lookie here, a politician who actually seems to get it. That's a rare thing these days, indeed.
Bad speaker? No "charisma"? Who cares! What does that have to do with being a GOOD LISTENER(the hallmark of a good leader)?
 
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Well lookie here, a politician who actually seems to get it. That's a rare thing these days, indeed.
Bad speaker? No "charisma"? Who cares! What does that have to do with being a GOOD LISTENER(the hallmark of a good leader)?

To me it is amazing because most politicians are good with the talk, but Dayton with all of his privilege is so compassionate
 
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Minnesota governor appoints police-community council, including Black Lives Matter rep




Fifteen voting members and 17 ex-officio members, including one representative each from:

Black Lives Matter
The Council on American-Islamic Relations
The faith-based group ISAIAH
Minnesota Tribal Nations
The Minnesota County Attorneys Association

This kind of council is one of the solutions Campaign Zero and BLM has recommended. Good to know someone is paying attention.

I know this news won't be surprising to human. :)

"Among the non-voting members will be a representative from Philando Castile’s family and Jamar Clark’s family. Clark was shot and killed by a Minneapolis police officer in 2015 as evidence showed he grabbed the officer’s gun. The homicide was ruled justified by the Hennepin County Attorney. Castile was shot and killed by a St. Anthony police officer on July 6 during a traffic stop."


Are they going to have any mothers of officers who died on the streets at the hands of gang members? I doubt it. This over sight group will try to make it 'safer' for the local gangs to run the streets and harder for officers to protect themselves, imo.
 
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Here is what BLM desires in a cilia review board. It looks like a living nightmare to me:


Establish effective civilian oversight structures

Establish an all-civilian oversight structure with discipline power that includes a Police Commission and Civilian Complaints Office with the following powers:

The Police Commission should:

determine policy for the police department based on community input and expertise
share policy and policy changes in publicly accessible formats
discipline and dismiss police officers
hold public disciplinary hearings
select the candidates for Police Chief, to be hired by the Mayor
evaluate and fire the Police Chief, if needed
receive full-time, competitive salaries for all members
receive regular training on policing and civil rights
not have current, former or family of police officers as members
select its members from candidates offered by community organizations
The Civilian Complaints Office should:

receive, investigate and resolve all civilian complaints against police in 120 days
establish multiple in-person and online ways to submit, view and discuss complaints
be immediately notified and required to send an investigator to the scene of a police shooting or in-custody death
be allowed to interrogate officers less than 48 hours after an incident where deadly force is used
access crime scenes, subpoena witnesses and files with penalties for non-compliance
make disciplinary and policy recommendations to the Police Chief
compel the Police Chief to explain why he/she has not followed a recommendation
have the Police Commission decide cases where the Police Chief does not follow recommendations
issue public quarterly reports analyzing complaints, demographics of complainants, status and findings of investigations and actions taken as a result
be housed in a separate location from the police department
be funded at an amount no less than 5% of the total police department budget
have at least 1 investigator for every 70 police officers or 4 investigators at all times,whichever is greater
have its Director selected from candidates offered by community organizations
not have current, former or family of police officers on staff, including the Director
(Ex: San Francisco Charter Policies on Police Commission and Office of Citizen Complaints)

Remove barriers to reporting police misconduct

For all stops by a police officer, require officers to give civilians their name, badge number, reason for the stop and a card with instructions for filing a complaint to the civilian oversight structure.
 
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Here is what BLM desires in a cilia review board. It looks like a living nightmare to me:


Establish effective civilian oversight structures

Establish an all-civilian oversight structure with discipline power that includes a Police Commission and Civilian Complaints Office with the following powers:

The Police Commission should:

determine policy for the police department based on community input and expertise
share policy and policy changes in publicly accessible formats
discipline and dismiss police officers
hold public disciplinary hearings
select the candidates for Police Chief, to be hired by the Mayor
evaluate and fire the Police Chief, if needed
receive full-time, competitive salaries for all members
receive regular training on policing and civil rights
not have current, former or family of police officers as members
select its members from candidates offered by community organizations
The Civilian Complaints Office should:

receive, investigate and resolve all civilian complaints against police in 120 days
establish multiple in-person and online ways to submit, view and discuss complaints
be immediately notified and required to send an investigator to the scene of a police shooting or in-custody death
be allowed to interrogate officers less than 48 hours after an incident where deadly force is used

access crime scenes, subpoena witnesses and files with penalties for non-compliance
make disciplinary and policy recommendations to the Police Chief
compel the Police Chief to explain why he/she has not followed a recommendation
have the Police Commission decide cases where the Police Chief does not follow recommendations
issue public quarterly reports analyzing complaints, demographics of complainants, status and findings of investigations and actions taken as a result
be housed in a separate location from the police department
be funded at an amount no less than 5% of the total police department budget
have at least 1 investigator for every 70 police officers or 4 investigators at all times,whichever is greater
have its Director selected from candidates offered by community organizations
not have current, former or family of police officers on staff, including the Director
(Ex: San Francisco Charter Policies on Police Commission and Office of Citizen Complaints)

Remove barriers to reporting police misconduct

For all stops by a police officer, require officers to give civilians their name, badge number, reason for the stop and a card with instructions for filing a complaint to the civilian oversight structure.

So they cant have any members on the board who are former LE or who are family of LE. But they do have family of people shot by LE? Is that fair or impartial?


So many of the above demands are very problematic, imo. Can't imagine how the officers could survive if BLM was in charge of them. If there was an issue, BLM would decide the blame? Cops would be fired and/or charged with crimes, quite frequently.

They want the ability to hire and fire the police chiefs? Right now they are asking for dozens to be fired.
 
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Luv the Gov! Too bad he is not running again. A super rich man with a heart of gold. He is the worst speaker, no charisma, but so excellent. MN is doing fabulous in so many reviews such as employment, quality of life. Hopefully, this will move MN further along in the issue of racial disparity.

Any thoughts on who will replace him and do you think that person will be as open-minded?
 
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Wow, finally someone 'in charge' is addressing the issue of trust between LE and the paying public.

With his arm embracing Philando Castile’s mother, Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton walked out of a Capitol briefing room on Wednesday trying to find answers to rebuilding trust with police departments across the state.

http://www.fox9.com/news/211164609-story

Not the first time this issue being the core problem has been posted on WS - ahem

Wow, finally someone 'in charge' is addressing the issue of trust between LE and the paying public.

Right. More needs to be done to address and repair LE's relationship within communities. If we can't trust LE they can't do their jobs and the more aggressive LEOs get the less we trust them. Staying stuck where we are -anger, fear, and on different sides - isn't going to get us anywhere.

This also makes me think about Blue Lives Matter - it's another way of them telling us "We are separate and different from you." And they want harsher punishments for people who kill cops but do they want the same for cops who kill civilians?
 
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As far as the BLM demands, I imagine they are
like any negotiations. You have things you can ditch and some things you really want. It is about compromise and discussion .

As Blue says, we must move forward. Things are not working
 
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no monitors setup for something like a review and explanation of the video... not sure what that means.
 
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use of force not justified.

officer charged with 2nd degree manslaughter and 2 felony charges of dangerous firearm discharge.
 
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dashcam caught the incident on audio and video, will not be released right now

other officer was never made aware of the presence of a gun, did not see any sudden movements

officer yanez made inconsistent statements about whether or not he ever saw the gun
 
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para - "i gave officer yanez every reasonable doubt but i feel that no reasonable officer would have felt that deadly force was necessary or justified"

castile was not a suspect in the robbery

other officer did nothing wrong, is not facing any discipline or charges
 

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