MN - Philando Castile, 32, shot by police officer, 6 July 2016 #1

[Everyday Grace]

I just wish the media didn't need to report on two such nothings, and just feed the fire.

I wouldn't have had a clue as to what those "celebrities" were saying or doing if they hadn't shown up in this thread

I just wish folks didn't need to share on such nothings, and just feed the fire.

Silence in indeed golden. I cannot do this anymore. Too much toxicity.

 

[i.b.nora]

I have no plans at this time to read the report. But, I thought this article about the report and The New York Times take on it is interesting:

Here's why I'm skeptical of Roland Fryer's new, much-hyped study on police shootings
Be wary of any study that acts like it’s invented the concept of data.
Updated by Dara Lind on July 11, 2016, 3:40 p.m. ET @DLind

http://www.vox.com/2016/7/11/12149468/racism-police-shootings-data

snippet

“The study is definitely useful in some regards: Researchers examined the circumstances of police shootings (like whether police were attacked before firing their guns) with much more detail than previous work has, for example. But it’s narrower than a lot of existing research on racial disparities in criminal justice — so narrow, in fact, that it kind of misses the point of why police killings of young black men are so frequently outrageous.

You won’t know that from reading write-ups that treat this study (or any study) as a Columbus-level discovery. On the bright side, that makes this study a useful object lesson for a few tips in how to read social science research in general (and criminal justice research in particular).”​

Its an easy to read article that helps to inform how one might look at and digest reports or studies such as this one.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

I think it shows nastiness, not feeding the fire. I imagine most people are appalled.

I'm appalled at what those two ugly people had to say. I hope the media continues to call them out, there needs to be accountability.

 

[i.b.nora]

Philando Castile’s Driving Record Raises Questions About Racial Profiling
He’d been cited for dozens of minor infractions, many of which were eventually dismissed.
The Huffington Post
By Kim Bellware
07/11/2016 11:32 pm ET | Updated 11 hours ago

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...rofiling_us_5783e257e4b01edea78ef139?section=

“After Castile’s death, Black Lives Matter Minneapolis met briefly with Falcon Heights Mayor Peter Lindstrom to demand the city end its contract with the St. Anthony Police Department.

The group met again on Sunday at the Progressive Baptist Church in St. Paul ― this time with Lindstrom, St. Paul Mayor Chris Coleman, St. Paul Police Chief Todd Axtell, NAACP National CEO and President Cornell Brooks and Gov. Mark Dayton (D).

Martin described the meeting as productive and said the talks focused on what kind of legislation could be enacted to “beef up the racial profiling laws.”

He also said the group discussed how forces like the St. Anthony police can keep more comprehensive data on race and police interactions.

“You can’t police yourself if you don’t know what you’re doing out there,” Martin (Jeffry Martin, NAACP St. Paul) said.

He was optimistic that Minnesota could actually become a nationwide leader in reforming laws to stamp out racial profiling. “We left the table knowing we’ll be back in a productive way and not a reactionary way for the next tragedy.””​

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[human]

Philando Castile’s Driving Record Raises Questions About Racial Profiling
He’d been cited for dozens of minor infractions, many of which were eventually dismissed.
The Huffington Post
By Kim Bellware
07/11/2016 11:32 pm ET | Updated 11 hours ago

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...rofiling_us_5783e257e4b01edea78ef139?section=

“After Castile’s death, Black Lives Matter Minneapolis met briefly with Falcon Heights Mayor Peter Lindstrom to demand the city end its contract with the St. Anthony Police Department.

The group met again on Sunday at the Progressive Baptist Church in St. Paul ― this time with Lindstrom, St. Paul Mayor Chris Coleman, St. Paul Police Chief Todd Axtell, NAACP National CEO and President Cornell Brooks and Gov. Mark Dayton (D).

Martin described the meeting as productive and said the talks focused on what kind of legislation could be enacted to “beef up the racial profiling laws.”

He also said the group discussed how forces like the St. Anthony police can keep more comprehensive data on race and police interactions.

“You can’t police yourself if you don’t know what you’re doing out there,” Martin (Jeffry Martin, NAACP St. Paul) said.

He was optimistic that Minnesota could actually become a nationwide leader in reforming laws to stamp out racial profiling. “We left the table knowing we’ll be back in a productive way and not a reactionary way for the next tragedy.””​

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Minnesota has some strange things to clean up. Minn is always one of the top states in education in the US in all kinds of measures. Minn is one of the top states in economic viability. It is filled with Fortune 500 companies. The Governor comes from a billionaire family ( Dayton's and started Target), but the Governor is truly a man who cares for people of lower income. He is a gem.

There is a huge education gap beween POC and whites in MN. I was on a committee to address this issue in my community.
Minn is addressing the school to prison pipeline with more positive approaches in schools. I do not know what the Minn problem is. I used to serve POC as a teacher in a special program . I would be out with parents in the community. That is where I saw first hand what kinds of things they experienced. Sometimes we had to laugh because it was so absurd.

 

[bluesneakers]

She said they had pot. Isn't that illegal?

You're right - I forgot about that.

If anyone other than LE had shot her boyfriend wouldn't we consider her a victim and follow our victim-friendly guidelines?

JMO

 

[Damarna]

Does Minnesota school districts require drug testing for its employees?

Hate when I hit send too early!

I work for a public school district and was drug tested upon hire. Not since. I'm not sure about St. Paul School district - or if PC was employed by the district or a vendor who provided food service?

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[Tillicum]

You're right - I forgot about that.

If anyone other than LE had shot her boyfriend wouldn't we consider her a victim and follow our victim-friendly guidelines?

JMO

For me this is another case where I will need to sit on my hands due to TOS. In my case it has nothing to do with who shot her boyfriend but I can't speak for others. How many other cases have we followed where the majority of us sat on our hands until more information (that we were already aware of) was out in WS accepted MSM? Right now my heart breaks for that little girl who has been exposed to more than any adult should ever be exposed to in a lifetime IMO.

I've followed many of these cases here but this one scares the heck out of me. I want to know the truth, I want the facts and not just because I have friends in LE. I have friends who are black and I have friends who are white but I also have both black and white grandchildren who I love with all my heart. One has just gotten his license and two others will soon. I can't put into words how torn and frightened I am. To me personally it's important to look at all the factors and personalities involved so that this "mamaw" can do everything in her power to eliminate anything that could put my grandbabies in danger.

 

[Hope4More]

If you had taken a concealed weapon training, you would know that you are trained to tell police upfront that you have a weapon in the car. When police approach the car, you should be sitting in the car with your hands visible on the steering wheel, at which time you inform police that you have a weapon in the car. Not digging for your license somewhere. You hands should be visible.

I'm sure that is very good advice, the hands in plain sight tip, no reaching for a license, even though that's what we all know to do, and typically is the first instruction the cop gives.

Perhaps we should have some handy phrases ready as well. Maybe-- "I don't have a gun, but I do recognize the Constitution allows every American to stockpile assault rifles or any other gun of their choice, including peeps on the terrorist watch list, God bless America, (sir , or m'am).

Or..."I do own a gun, I always have it with me, and I just want to say (sir, m'am) that my gun is bigger than your gun, which doesn't seem quite right, but I don't make the rules, I just follow them."

 

[Tillicum]

US police shooting: Philando Castile's partner tells BBC she wants change

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36772039

 

[human]

US police shooting: Philando Castile's partner tells BBC she wants change

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36772039

Richmond, CA chief did fabulous changes. Long article

http://www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-me-richmond-pd-20150503-story.html

 

[barcode]

Philando Castile’s Driving Record Raises Questions About Racial Profiling
He’d been cited for dozens of minor infractions, many of which were eventually dismissed.

No true actually, he had over a 50% rate with convictions and I find that high because many tickets are dismissed,

 

[Trino]

Does Minnesota school districts require drug testing for its employees?

Let's not confuse Minneapolis and St. Paul. He worked for St. Paul.

 

[Rocco]

US police shooting: Philando Castile's partner tells BBC she wants change

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36772039

She needs to stop talking---she making her account of what happened seem more unbelievable every day. In the link she claims PC told the officer he had a permit and a gun before he was shot. If he told the officer he had a gun, there's no way he would have been asked to reach for anything----- including his driver's license or registration--- until the officer had secured that gun. No way!! In her recording, you can hear the cop say after the shooting: "F***, I told him not to reach for anything. "

 

[human]

Let's not confuse Minneapolis and St. Paul. He worked for St. Paul.

The person asked about Minnesota. That would be all districts in MN. My district did not have drug testing.

I have searched as much as I want to. It seems that many districts have the identical wording in their policies. The drug testing refers to drivers and if any employees are suspected of using on the job.

It is possible that Cass Lake/Bena has something but I could not access it.

I did not see anything as a requirement for getting a job or while working unless suspected of use on the job

 

[al66pine]

Audio. If they've been linked before, I missed it.
http://m.startribune.com/police-aud...lando-castile-on-robbery-suspicion/386344001/ July 12


http://www.startribune.com/audio-officers-discuss-stopping-philando-castile-s-car/386337111/
audio of officers discuss stopping Mr C's car

http://www.startribune.com/audio-sc...fired-in-philando-castile-incident/386337251/
scanner report of shots fired.

http://www.startribune.com/audio-scanner-audio-of-incident-response-to-castile-shooting/386337531/
scanner audio of incident response to shooting.

 

[al66pine]

" Originally Posted by barcode No true actually, he had over a 50% rate with convictions and I find that high because many tickets are dismissed,"

Whatever. Obviously you have no interest in the positive aspects of the article.

Confused. Which article? What's the gist of it? Relevance of content to Mr C's citations & dismissed citations to article? Link, pls? TiA.

 

[Only4Justice]

Yes. But no alcohol, the worst drug of all.

Thanks for this post. Can't repeat this enough. Thanks human.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

The person asked about Minnesota. That would be all districts in MN. My district did not have drug testing.

I have searched as much as I want to. It seems that many districts have the identical wording in their policies. The drug testing refers to drivers and if any employees are suspected of using on the job.

It is possible that Cass Lake/Bena has something but I could not access it.

I did not see anything as a requirement for getting a job or while working unless suspected of use on the job

Drug testing is expensive, and most school districts don't have enough money in their budgets as it is, so random drug testing is extremely low priority. Most companies, and probably school districts as well, will do one pre-hire, and then only if an incident happens on the job.

 

[pet friend]

I can't imagine the shock and disbelief of Philando Castile's family, friends, colleagues. How they are keeping it together and expressing empathy for LE from Dallas and the fallen officer's and their families-speaks of empathy towards others in their grief and sorrow. Imho