MN -- woman shot in face and killed by ICE, Minneapolis, 7 Jan 2026

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So now we are arguing over how a woman shot 3 times at close range was supposed to control her car, where her feet were and what factors come into how fast her car was traveling as she was dying? And this isn’t victim blaming? Wow, ok. MOO.
 
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I think that Renee and her partner fully expected to be able to drive away, but that they would get a visit from ICE later.
Judging by Rebecca's comment on video <Modsnip: name calling> that their license plates would still be the same when ICE visited them later that day.

imo
Yeah, I think her partner anticipated future harassment from ICE for her behavior of filming and 💩 talking. I don't think she or Renee anticipated death.
 
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The last and clear command that I heard was: Get out of the car.
We can clearly hear what the officer says to Renee here.

Two officers get out of the truck and walk towards her car. One officer approaches her car telling her to "get out of the f-ing car". He reaches into her car.

She backs up and tries to drive away, with her front tires briefly spinning before she gets traction.

 
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Here is a copy of the policy, stating that ICE agents are allowed and encouraged to use body cameras.


I’m not sure why no body cameras were being used in this situation and he was filming on his cell phone instead. Actually I have a few ideas but I will keep them to myself.
From what I've read/understand, ICE agents are not required to wear body cams.
And I'll bet I have the same ideas that you do as to why.
IMO.
 
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So now we are arguing over how a woman shot 3 times at close range was supposed to control her car, where her feet were and what factors come into how fast her car was traveling as she was dying? And this isn’t victim blaming? Wow, ok. MOO.
It has to be one of the worst and insane examples of victim blaming I've ever seen. Jmo
 
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The last and clear command that I heard was: Get out of the car.
Be thankful you have the advantage of listening to video replays. Unfortunately the victim didn't have that opportunity. She was killed in the midst of a clearly chaotic situation. I won't be going back and forth with you. But have some common decency and think. I typically just don't engage in the back and forth online. But I just can't with the lack of human decency anymore. Not just you but in general.
All my opinion and random thoughts
 
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So now we are arguing over how a woman shot 3 times at close range was supposed to control her car, where her feet were and what factors come into how fast her car was traveling as she was dying? And this isn’t victim blaming? Wow, ok. MOO.
It's not victim blaming to discuss how and why the vehicle accelerated after she was shot.

If her foot was on the brake, then she could not have moved her foot to the accelerator after she was shot.

Her vehicle slammed into the parked car with force.

Therefore, she had her foot on the accelerator when she was shot.

The officer started walking around the front of her vehicle when she was backing up. He may have thought that she was backing up to park her car so she could obey officer orders and get out of the car.

Instead, she backed up, slightly turned her wheels to the right, and then accelerated. When she didn't move - and was spinning tires on the ice - she gave a little extra to get off the ice.

The officer, who had walked in front of her vehicle as she was backing up, was now in front of her accelerating vehicle.

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"Video captured by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent Jonathan Ross gives a raw, up-close perspective of the pivotal moments surrounding his fatal shooting of Renee Good in Minneapolis.

A DHS official confirmed the video, obtained by CNN, was recorded on the agent’s cellphone camera; the video was originally obtained by the conservative Minnesota media outlet Alpha News."

 
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So now we are arguing over how a woman shot 3 times at close range was supposed to control her car, where her feet were and what factors come into how fast her car was traveling as she was dying? And this isn’t victim blaming? Wow, ok. MOO.
From the WS rules: "Websleuths is a victim friendly forum. Attacking or bashing a victim is not allowed". As if this woman's unjust execution isn't enough!
 
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It's not victim blaming to discuss how and why the vehicle accelerated after she was shot.

If her foot was on the brake, then she could not have moved her foot to the accelerator after she was shot.

Her vehicle slammed into the parked car with force.

Therefore, she had her foot on the accelerator when she was shot.

The officer started walking around the front of her vehicle when she was backing up. He may have thought that she was backing up to park her car so she could obey officer orders and get out of the car.

Instead, she backed up, slightly turned her wheels to the right, and then accelerated. When she didn't move - and was spinning tires on the ice - she gave a little extra to get off the ice.

The officer, who had walked in front of her vehicle as she was backing up, was now in front of her accelerating vehicle.

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None of this justifies her being murdered
 
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Ross walking off, not rendering help, and leaving the scene, just reeks of his cowboy, inhumane attitude towards the victim.
IMO
This. Compare the action of the police officers at the Bondi terrorist attack who commenced CPR on the shot terrorists as soon as they were down. And unlike Renee Good they'd actually just killed 15 people and injured dozens more.
 
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None of this justifies her being murdered
Of course not, but it's important to understand what happened.

Renee had her foot on the accelerator when she was shot. There's no other explanation for the force with which she smashed into the parked car.

She was shot in the face, she could not move her foot after that shot.

It's also reasonable to believe that the officer who shot her genuinely believed that she was backing up to move her car out of the middle of the road and park on the side of the road. He shouldn't walk behind her car when she's backing up, so he walked in front of her car.

Then she switched from backing up to accelerating forward while he was in front of her car.
 
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JR, the person who shot RG, was a career military person. From this source, quoting his Dec. deposition in the case where he was drug by a vehicle in 2025:
Deployed to Iraq from 2004 to 2005 with the Indiana National Guard.
Earned the Army Commendation Medal, Army Good Conduct Medal, Global War on Terrorism Medal and the Iraq Campaign Medal, among others, during his deployment.
Returned from Iraq in 2005, went to college.
8 years as Border Patrol agent near El Paso, TX, 2007 to 2015. Served as a field intelligence agent gathering and analyzing information on cartels and drug and human smuggling.
Attended the Border Patrol’s academy in New Mexico, where he learned to speak Spanish.
Joined ICE 2015. Served as deportation officer in Minnesota since he joined ICE. Assigned to fugitive operations, seeking to arrest “higher value targets." Also team leader with the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force.
Also a firearms instructor, an active shooter instructor, a field intelligence officer and member of the SWAT team. (revised quote for brevity)

Source: ICE officer who shot woman in Minneapolis served in Indiana National Guard

So he spent much of his adult life in military/law enforcement positions, where he has been exposed to extensive training and also lots of trauma. He is not one of the newly hired ICE officers. He is experienced.

When I see these videos from across the nation of ICE officers confronting protestors by use of force ad massive violence, I just don't understand. How has it come to where citizens using their constitutionally given rights to speak up have become the enemy and the target? So some people have shown up with vehicles to make it difficult for ICE officers to "do their jobs" because the citizens vehemently disagree with how ICE is acting. They are not actually threatening, there are no weapons, no bear spray or knives or spears. Just words and cell phones and whistles. It would have been EASY for the officers to leave and come back another day.

If they had sat in their vehicles, used their loudspeakers, and told everyone to disperse, different outcome. If they had sat and waited without doing anything, different outcome. If they had passed RG's vehicle and moved on, different outcome. There is no skin off of their nose for their work to be disrupted. That IS part of the work right now. The moment they see the protestors as the enemy, that is the problem. I know officers who say, "I protect your right to speech. Doesn't matter if I agree with you."

I can't imagine there were many ICE targets (i.e. dangerous criminals) in that sleepy street with a school. The people who live on this street or walk there or the children who attend that school are the very people the ICE agents are supposed to be protecting by getting dangerous criminals who are undocumented immigrants out of the country, right? But they become dangerous enemies when they express their dislike of how ICE is doing this job? This is the real problem. Because in the US, people are free to speak their minds and protest. Seems like some of these ICE agents have lost that thread.
 
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The could not. The car would have then accelerated slowly using residual power from the idling engine. But.... the car accelerated very rapidly.
Do you have a link to this conclusion?
IMO and TYIA.
 
  • #1,176
They only tried to open the door when she did not obey their commands to get out.

Likewise I only saw them point a weapon at her- and immediately fire it after she accelerated towards an officer- though I am very sure there are other interpretations).

All the above aside, she left with out even waiting for the passenger to get back in the car. Accelerating a car towards an officer while afraid, or unafraid is a bad idea.

But, yes, I think she was un nerved (frightened) by an escalating situation she never fully signed up for and wanted out.

She did not accelerate toward the officer. She backed up. He shot her before she made another move and it was only after the first shot that the car moves forward.

MOO
 
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He is one of thousands and thousands of garbage human beings with the given gun and the pleasure to use it via 'our' Gov't.
Who are the other "garbage human beings" that you are referring to, in your opinion?
 
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I never said her actions justified her being executed.

I think people are particularly sensitive to pointing out things the victim could have done better. None of us were in her shoes. It's like when a woman gets raped and someone says "well, they were wearing a short skirt." They may not be saying "she deserved to be rape," but the resounding response is going to be SO WHAT? The point in this case is that no matter what Renee did or didn't do, the video shows very clearly that the agent was never in danger and, therefore, the murder (yes, murder) is completely unjustified. Everything else is just noise.

MO.
 
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So why did he shift his phone to his left hand and put his hand on his gunin the first place? Why was he even considering shooting? He consciously decided to get ready to draw before (going with your opinion) she accelerated towards him.
Simply put, they never know when a situation will require them to draw their weapon in a defensive situation and it reduces the time needed to react to a potential threat. Whether people like that action or not, having their hand on their weapon could mean the difference between life and death. That does not excuse the officer for his actions and firing three shots yet at the same time, I don't know what he was thinking when he reacted to what he apparently took as a threat
 
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This. Compare the action of the police officers at the Bondi terrorist attack who commenced CPR on the shot terrorists as soon as they were down. And unlike Renee Good they'd actually just killed 15 people and injured dozens more.
Not only did they commence CPR they held back some of the public from beating the 🤬🤬🤬🤬 out of the terrorists once they were incapacitated.
 
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