MN -- woman shot in face and killed by ICE, Minneapolis, 7 Jan 2026

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What’s interesting to me is that “everyone” is so upset with what happened to this woman but those same people thought Charlie Kirk’s murder was justified. Food for thought.
This is called whataboutism.
 
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That's why I said JMO????? Just like yours is just YOUR opinion.
They didn't actually say it was their opinion though they stated it as fact
 
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They didn't actually say it was their opinion though they stated it as fact
Well spotted. I'm just so tired of what seems like trolling at this point so I missed it 😉
 
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Her car moved towards him before he drew his weapon. He reacted to her front tires spin on the slick pavement and the vehicle starting to move forward before he drew and fired. That movement of the vehicle played a part in what happened plain and simple. That's not me blaming her as I don't think she was trying to hit him and was trying to get herself out of the situation and I don't excuse him for doing what he did as he obviously had time to move out the way before he fired the first shot

He drew his weapon when she backed up, IMO.
 
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That is ridiculous. She was doing nothing threatening that would cause him to think he in danger.
How many times have officers been put in life threatening danger in situations where the person wasn't doing anything threatening? Sadly that action is one learned in blood over the years which is why they do it
 
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What were they thinking?

They were parked in the middle of the road and interacting with officers. When two more officers arrived and told Renee to get out of the car, why didn't she listen?

What was the point of trying to drive away? Isn't it common sense that when an officer tells us to do something, we listen ... if only because we do not want to escalate the situation?
Conflicting orders from intimidating goons
 
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Shock and Aww when the officer is found not guilty.

Jmo
 
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Do you have a link to this conclusion?
IMO and TYIA.
People who are shot in the head don't then move their foot onto the accelerator after they are shot. Video footage illustrates how fast the car was going when it crashed into the parked car.
 
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The number one thing that went wrong in that situation was the agent shot a civilian and killed her. HIS ACTIONS should be scrutinized, rather than finding fault with the victim's every move.

The agent had the authority to control himself and maintain order in a public tense moment. He failed. He is at fault.


jmopinion
 
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Not sure if it's been posted, but Renee's family closed the funding campaign and encouraged people who still wanted to donate to give to those in need.
That's pretty admirable, IMO.
 
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People who are shot in the head don't then move their foot onto the accelerator after they are shot. Video footage illustrates how fast the car was going when it crashed into the parked car.
Are you a brain trauma specialist?
 
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How many times have officers been put in life threatening danger in situations where the person wasn't doing anything threatening? Sadly that action is one learned in blood over the years which is why they do it
0 ICE officers have been killed on duty except for 1 who had a heart attack chasing someone. No immigrants or civilians have ever directly killed an ICE officer in the entire existence of the agency. No ICE officer has EVER been murdered by a vehicle on duty/in relation to their work (the one struck by a car was by a drunk driver while the officer was off duty - completely incidental). Link upthread. These assertions of officers being in grave danger all the time are so overstated.
 
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We will literally never know what Renee thought or what her plans were in the situation because she’s dead. We may hear from the agent if he’s actually charged with a crime and put on trial. Discussing if her foot was on the accelerator before she was shot doesn’t change the situation IMO. Before she was shot, she never had her car moving faster than 2mph. After she’s shot and dying/incapacitated, her car speeds up. Ok, what does that matter? At that point, she’s dead and the officer isn’t hurt at all. It’s very lucky that her car didn’t hit any bystanders or agents as it wasn’t being controlled by an alert and alive person. A well trained officer would know that shooting into a vehicle is never a good idea as it creates a situation where the car could become out of control and cause more damage. He made the choice to shoot her and didn’t seem to care or worry about any consequences after that. Arguing about how her foot was positioned when she’s being surrounded by masked men shouting conflicting commands at her is victim blaming. All MOO.
In the videos I have watched, one officer gives one command: "get out of the f-ing car."

Renee backs up, slightly turned her wheels, and started driving forward.
 
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0 ICE officers have been killed on duty except for 1 who had a heart attack chasing someone. No immigrants or civilians have ever directly killed an ICE officer in the entire existence of the agency. Link upthread. These assertions of officers being in grave danger all the time are so overstated.
Exactly. And if that was the case, if it was you, wouldn't you want to wear a body cam? You know, to protect yourself... I can't seem to shake that one personally hmm. Jmo.
 
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This seemed like a fresh perspective. MSN

Quote from this video: "Agitating banter and heckling is to be expected in this position, and is part of the job. That isn't threatening or endangering." I wish there was a transcript, there is a lot of commentary in this news clip that resonates with a lot of the discussion here.
 
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Witnesses say that agents were giving conflicting commands. Multiple witnesses stated agents told her to leave.

“Some of them were leaving, and they just went around her, but ICE gave her orders to leave, while at the same time, another ICE person said, ‘Get out of the car,’ and he reached for her door handle. And then there was an ICE agent in front of her vehicle. So it was difficult for her to leave, as she'd been ordered to do,” Callenson said.

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Heller said she heard ICE agents telling the driver, a woman, to “get out of here.”


There were two officers near the driver's side window, one officer near the passenger side.

The one officer who approached her window told her to get out of the car. That is the only officer who was speaking to her shortly before she was shot.

Video is at this link - turn up the volume:

 
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What a strange comment
It is and we know why some officers are found not guilty right? IMO That's starting to end, that trend I've seen. Civil trials by the families are on the rise due to it..
 
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