MN -- woman shot in face and killed by ICE, Minneapolis, 7 Jan 2026

[libraryg]

It wasn't bodycam video, it was his phone camera (he was videoing with his phone), and it is linked here several times. Please read the thread.

imo

So you heard the thud of the Honda Pilot hitting his body then?

 

[SouthAussie]

So you heard the thud of the Honda Pilot hitting his body then?

I have spoken about this further back in the thread, as have many others. Thanks.

 

[Mickey Mouse]

This has ZERO to do with MN.

It has everything to do with the conduct of ICE agents, which is absolutely relevant. There have been many incidents that are remarkably similar of ICE agents shooting (into cars) and making accusations that are later shown to be false.

It also is relevant to the discussion of bias against LE and whether or not these types of actions by LE are ok.

 

[Ruminations]

His life, or the life of anyone else, was never in danger. There was no reason to shoot to kill. If he felt he was in danger he put himself there by where he chose to stand.

The life of Ross's coworkers and the lives of other bystanders were at stake. Renee Good was murdered. There was danger that began when Ross moved his phone to his left hand so he could pull out a gun and shoot at a bystander on a crowded street. So there was danger created by the murderer.

But until then, I agree. There was never danger.

MOO

 

[libraryg]

It has everything to do with the conduct of ICE agents, which is absolutely relevant. There have been many incidents that are remarkably similar of ICE agents shooting (into cars) and making accusations that are later shown to be false.

It also is relevant to the discussion of bias against LE and whether or not these types of actions by LE are ok.

I would like to see proof of this.

 

[Sundog]

Their lives matter and they have a right to protect themselves and their families while on the job. Seeing all the anti LE sentiment, I am on their side.

Yes, the dehumanizing came first and then the masks to protect themselves and their families from the doxing, etc. that was part of the dehumanization process.

 

[SouthAussie]

Has the Medical Examiner ruled on the manner of death?

There is frequent use of the word “murder” in this thread. Murder is a specific legal determination, generally defined as the unlawful and premeditated killing of one person by another. While that may ultimately be the conclusion, it has not been established at this point. IMO until the Medical Examiner and the appropriate legal authorities have made their findings, the manner of death remains undetermined.

I think that shots 2 & 3 clearly show intent to murder.

imo

 

[Charlot123]

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I don't know if this has already been shared, but here's a fairly thorough breakdown of what happened yesterday. It's from the CBC. Aren't we Canadians fortunate to have such good handling of the news? It helps us be critical thinkers.

I typed it yesterday. Maybe this issue has been discussed.

I loved this breakdown.

But to develop critical thinking, one has to have baseline common sense. As this case shows, it may not be an idle request.

So let us review the scene.

First impression: ICE agents are untrained in communicating between themselves. (I may be missing the atmosphere; it is likely tense and there may be panic on both sides.)

However, among three or four agents surrounding Good’s car only one, Ross, does a string of nonsensical things. Initially he is not even in the frame. Other people are communicating with Good. But then he walks with this “duck-footed pub owner’s” gait, and gets in front of the car. (Why? MN requires two car plates and he is closer to the back.) But no, he puts himself in the car’s way. When the car starts to turn and probably slightly clips him, he shoots the driver in the head three times to stop the moving car.

I Googled what happened on the day when Ross was hurt by Muñoz. The same, essentially: during a high-speed chase, Ross uses his vehicle to block Munoz’s moving car. (Putting himself in the car’s way). Munoz stops. Then, Ross breaks the car's rear driver's-side window and reaches inside to unlock the door. At this point, Munoz puts the car in drive and accelerates. Ross's gets trapped in the window, and he is dragged down the street. While being dragged, Ross fires his Taser, striking Munoz in the head, face, and shoulder. Luckily, he does not incapacitate him (a car driving at a high speed, with a knocked out driver and an agent's hand stick in the window would have been deadly for all). But Munos drives into a curb and Ross can free himself
Then he gets into the hospital to needs stitches.

See the pattern?

With Gold. He unnecessarily puts himself in car’s way —- gets very close to the driver’s side——>tries to open the door --- perhaps gets clipped (not attacked!) —->shoots the driver in the head three times to stop the moving car.

I have two versions to explain what's going on.

1) Ross is basically uneducable person. He should never work in the field, he is a hazard to the people around him, including his own team.

2) Alternatively he may be a psychopath, an emerging serial killer who is smarting for the chance to kill.

I don't know. Each time, he creates havoc and maybe some people are not team players and should not be used as such.

Does anyone understand what happens with him?

I see something that is concerning and I can’t put a finger on it.

It is as if the situation had all potential to be resolved normally with other ICE agents minus him but then he appeared out of the left field and jumped at the chance to shoot?

 

[georgiajean]

It is important, in my opinion, to consider the differences in role for a military combat person, a Police/Sherriff/Peace Officer, and a Border Control or ICE Agent.

Many military veterans go into domestic law enforcement as a transition after military service. I would say that those who go into ICE or Border Control may retain more of their military mindset (there is an "enemy" to get) than if they go into becoming a police officer.

This article talks a little about this.
Differences between Military service and being a law enforcement officer:
1: One of the primary differences is the role of community relations and its importance in law enforcement. Although some parts of military service and training involve interactions with civilians and maintaining safe, positive relationships with them, they are not emphasized nearly to the same degree as in law enforcement. Community engagement between officers and the towns and neighborhoods they patrol is critical for safety. As a law enforcement officer, you are expected to serve as a visible and trustworthy representative of your department. Building public trust through positive interactions is essential to effective policing.

2: Another key difference is the emphasis on apprehension over open combat. Military members are trained for combat and view enemy combatants accordingly. Police officers, on the other hand, are supposed to view even suspects in heinous crimes as targets for apprehension, not violence. Officers must use judgment and balance assertiveness with restraint, ensuring that all individuals – regardless of the offense – are treated lawfully. Safety, in some cases, includes the safety of suspected criminals, who are to be tried and judged by a jury of their peers.

I think these are relevant differences to how ICE operates in this country, and how they view not only the undocumented immigrants they are tracking down, but the US citizens who are criticizing how ICE operates. They are both "enemy."

 

[Tutter]

Exclusive | Renee Nicole Good was Minneapolis ‘ICE Watch’ ‘warrior’ who trained to resist feds before shooting

Good linked up with the anti-ICE activists through her 6-year-old son’s woke charter school, which boasts that it puts “social justice first” and “involving kids in political and social activism,” …

nypost.com

Was Renne Nicole Good 'ICE Watch Warrior'? What We Know About Viral Claims

A Minneapolis mother was shot dead by a federal agent during an immigration operation after allegedly driving toward officers. She is allegedly linked to anti-ICE activist groups that monitor and disrupt enforcement actions. , US News, Times Now

www.timesnownews.com

MSN

Is this true? Hmm
IMO. This isn’t victim blaming. I don’t think she did anything to be killed over. But it does add an angle.

<modsnip: Off Topic>

What a world we live in.

 

[Ruminations]

And once he's "triggered", he can't un-trigger before he makes sure she's dead with shots #2 and #3?

Then he magically feels all better and just leaves.

MOO

 

[Mickey Mouse]

I would like to see proof of this.

Dropped cases against LA protesters reveal false claims from federal agents

Dropped cases against LA protesters reveal false claims from federal agents

Revealed: records show border patrol gave inaccurate testimony about people it jailed. Prosecutors now face ‘embarrassing’ dismissals

www.theguardian.com

 

[Ruminations]

(Snipped for focus)

Do you all remember Ashli Babbit? I would be interested what was said about her back then….

What a world we live in.

Are you suggesting there are similarities in Renee Good's actions to Ashlee Babbit? Or that the gunmen who killed them were facing similar circumstances? I'm sad that they are dead. But I am not seeing an analogy. How are the cases similar?

MOO

 

[southgoldengirl]

My time is valuable and I don't have enough to wade thru all that. What was shared today matters. Damning in favor of self defense.

<modsnip> What was shared today (I'm assuming you mean Ross's phone footage) proves that it wasn't self defeanse

 

[Twick]

Letting her leave was not a safe option.

It was entirely a safe option.

 

[Mickey Mouse]

Exclusive | Renee Nicole Good was Minneapolis ‘ICE Watch’ ‘warrior’ who trained to resist feds before shooting

Good linked up with the anti-ICE activists through her 6-year-old son’s woke charter school, which boasts that it puts “social justice first” and “involving kids in political and social activism,” …

nypost.com

Was Renne Nicole Good 'ICE Watch Warrior'? What We Know About Viral Claims

A Minneapolis mother was shot dead by a federal agent during an immigration operation after allegedly driving toward officers. She is allegedly linked to anti-ICE activist groups that monitor and disrupt enforcement actions. , US News, Times Now

www.timesnownews.com

MSN

Is this true? Hmm
IMO. This isn’t victim blaming. I don’t think she did anything to be killed over. But it does add an angle.

Do you all remember Ashli Babbit? I would be interested what was said about her back then….

What a world we live in.

IMO New York Post should be taken with a huge grain of salt. I have never heard of the other source.

 

[Marysmith]

The life of Ross's coworkers and the lives of other bystanders were at stake. Renee Good was murdered. There was danger that began when Ross moved his phone to his left hand so he could pull out a gun and shoot at a bystander on a crowded street. So there was danger created by the murderer.

But until then, I agree. There was never danger.

MOO

Right. Sorry, I meant before he shot. There was no need to escalate to that point at all at all IMO.

 

[Snoopster]

Facts matter, not emotional baiting. Research is crucial.

What is the average length of training for ICE agents? Is it as long as city police officers?

https://www.npr.org/2026/01/09/nx-s...ut-ices-truncated-training-after-hiring-blitz

training to get all of those bodies into ICE, all of the right law enforcement folks into ICE, training has been reduced from about 16 weeks to about six, six and a half weeks.

ICE Academy Shortened Its Training to Just 47 Days Under Trump in Nod to the 47th President, Report Claims

The training period for new ICE recruits was trimmed 'roughly in half' to just 47 days last year, according to a report by 'The Atlantic,' because Donald Trump is the 47th president. ICE training protocols have become a focal point since the Jan. 7 shooting death of U.S. citizen Renee Nicole...

people.com

a senior DHS official replied, "False. Training to become an Enforcement and Removal Operations officer is 8 weeks long."

How long does an American local police officer train for?

In the United States, police officer training varies significantly by state and agency, but the average basic academy training lasts about 21-22 weeks (around five months), followed by a mandatory field training program. The entire process, including field training and a probationary period, typically lasts about a year.

I'm guessing that the extra time isn't about how to shoot a weapon, but more about how to investigate and manage situations effectively.

 

[Ruminations]

So you heard the thud of the Honda Pilot hitting his body then?

No, I saw the videos, and listened to the witnesses on the scene, and have concluded with my reasonable senses that nobody was hit with a vehicle.

The only danger on the scene was from the shooter who did not only murder a mother of three, he endangered everybody else on the street including his own coworkers.



MOO

 

[Tutter]

Are you suggesting there are similarities in Renee Good's actions to Ashlee Babbit? Or that the gunmen who killed them were facing similar circumstances? I'm sad that they are dead. But I am not seeing an analogy. How are the cases similar?

MOO

Well no. Ashli was not in any way to be even perceived as threatening the officer who shot and killed her. I don’t she did anything worth being killed over just like Renee. The officers overreacted in the moment. Both white women, both unarmed. Both should still be alive.