GUILTY MO - Breeann Rodriguez, 3, Senath, 6 August 2011 - #2

[Deleted member 718]

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I wonder if Buffalo Ditch is an irrigation ditch? Depending on the crop and the weather, farmers can have river water diverted to the ditches to keep their crops watered. They can also turn off the water supply if LE would need to search the ditch. They are usually about 6-8 feet deep and muddy.

Don't know what to think about the training wheels. It doesn't make sense.

 

[katydid23]

One story had the brother discovering she was gone. Also, in one story there was a 20 min time period for her being out by herself then the next was a 5 min time period....brother getting a drink of water and the mother looking out and seeing her. If she was truly abducted, I'm thinking only the brother came in for lunch that mom was preparing and since BR had just eaten, she was still outside by her lonesome. jmo

And in none of the stories does Dad see her alive and well before he leaves that morning. He said she was still sound asleep @ 10 am when he left.

I am wondering if she was already gone by then. Does mom have her own car?
Or did she take Dad's car out for a drive while he was in the shower that morning?

 

[Gardenlady]

I think the only way that LE would have suspicions about the family would be if their story was not panning out. So if the neighbors did not see Breeann out with her bike that morning, and the 5 yr old did not have a good convincing interview about the bike ride, then they are going to be suspicious.

I wonder if any of the neighbors did back up the mom's version of events. Probably not, or the cops would not be so suspicious, imo.

The response of local LE has been great so far, and so I am not trying to criticize when I say that it's possible they were suspicious because until the 3 items of evidence were found, there was not a single clue to go on otherwise.

Question just occurred to me: If they really had any evidence or witness statements that cast the parents in a suspicious light, would LE allow them out in the searches?

 

[matou]

Here is what the father said about that morning:

As for the time the child went missing, Rodriguez said his daughter didn't leave the house until after 10 a.m.

"I didn't leave the house until about 10 [a.m.], to go to that auction," Rodriguez said. "Breeann was still asleep when I left. It had to be after 10 at least. [Ramos] is saying it was closer to 11. She had to get up, brush her teeth, get dressed, and eat cereal before she went outside. It was about 11 o'clock when she went outside and about 11:30 when she went missing. We spend about 30 minutes or 45 minutes looking for her before we called 911.

"[Ramos] seen her about five minutes before. Before Austin came inside, she just seen her outside about five minutes before that. You're talking about five minutes, two or three minutes that Austin went inside, you are talking less than 10 minutes [and she was gone]."

http://www.dddnews.com/story/1752168.html

 

[~n/t~]

Hmmm... I just came back from a Canadian chain store called Zellers with my daughter and we looked at bicycles. ALL of the small bikes have THEIR OWN TYPE of training wheels on them and they are all adjustable with huge bolts to tighten. Each bike has it's own pattern, color, image e.g. Elmo, etc.

The dad would know if the wheels belong to that bike and so would the police. So why is there still a question about the training wheels?? Either the wheels match the bike or they don't. I want to know if the neighbours have seen Breeann on her bike with the training wheels or if there is a photo of her on it riding around.

Man oh man, I hope Breeann is OK. I'm not surprised that the parents were polygraphed as it's expected in all of these types of cases: look at the family first. I hope they aren't involved. I hope Breeann is OK.

The dad said they are the wheels from Breeann's bike.

 

[katydid23]

Maybe he's happy they found something connected to her. I truly believe he thinks his daughter is alive and will come home. Any parent would be relieved if something is found. That's why they do searches. They want answers. I didn't find his reaction strange at all.

I do not think the dad was involved. But I think mom might be. And I have a small sliver of a doubt about dad now as well. The wheels out in that field make no sense at all. I really think they were planted there. And the cops saying it has them going in circles---to me that sounds like they have been suspicious of the home all along.

I think there might be things they know that we do not know about the background. There may be unsavory characters lurking about the home that they are aware of.

 

[matou]

Why is there no statement about what Breeann did that morning from the mother who was home instead of from the dad who left when Breeann was still sleeping?

 

[matou]

The dad said they are the wheels from Breeann's bike.

I know he did but why are the police not making it official?

 

[Anna1964]

Charleston is not close to the town but if one wanted to visit a prisoner a large numbe of poeple would pass through Senath. Good idea. I have spent a massive amount of time thinking of reasons a person would be in or pass through the town. It is very small and believe me everyone knows everything about every everyone

 

[cluciano63]

The finding of the wheels on two different days may have added to any suspicion LE may have...it is pretty weird. Maybe LE knows perfectly well they searched the area where one happens to be the next day (as they indicated at some point.) Maybe one of the parents happened to find the wheel. We don't know what else is going on behind the scenes.

I have been concerned with Mom's story all along. The window of time, whether 20 minutes or 5 minutes, is quite small for a SO to be ready to pounce, in such a small, rural setting. The child has probably been outside lots of times and no one grabbed her. Why on a Satuday morning, when Mom could have been at a window, for all "he" knew?

But then, I am a WS cynic...

 

[katydid23]

The response of local LE has been great so far, and so I am not trying to criticize when I say that it's possible they were suspicious because until the 3 items of evidence were found, there was not a single clue to go on otherwise.

Question just occurred to me: If they really had any evidence or witness statements that cast the parents in a suspicious light, would LE allow them out in the searches?

Good question. I have heard that dad was out searching, but I don't know about mom. And I don't know if he was involved in any organized searches or just out looking for the white van. He might be under surveillance though.

I don't think LE knows what to think. They are probably doing parallel investigations still.

 

[hollye]

Were the lie detector tests taken before or after the training wheels were found?

If the parents were involved, is it possible that the wheels were planted after they failed to try to throw LE off and make them think abduction?

 

[HeinekenMan]

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I wonder if Buffalo Ditch is an irrigation ditch? Depending on the crop and the weather, farmers can have river water diverted to the ditches to keep their crops watered. They can also turn off the water supply if LE would need to search the ditch. They are usually about 6-8 feet deep and muddy.

Don't know what to think about the training wheels. It doesn't make sense.

That is a really good point. After seeing some video of the field, I can say for sure that it's cotton and not beans. Cotton and rice fields require lots of water.

 

[cluciano63]

Why would an abductor take the time to take the wheels off and toss them? Makes no sense to me. Just take the child, take the bike too, if it is easier, but get the heck out of town. To me, either they are not her wheels, or she was not abducted. JMO, JMO, JMO

 

[Mirage]

I can see the mom failing the poly.... she didn't keep an eye on her child like she should have, and now she's gone. How would you tell your husband, let alone LE that you never even watched her? So, mom would try to make dad think she had looked out and seen her, it hadn't really been "that long" etc... therefore, she would flunk the poly. As for dad... I dont know why he would fail unless he also feels guilt for not being there for his baby girl. I pray these parents are not involved.

 

[Deleted member 718]

That is a really good point. After seeing some video of the field, I can say for sure that it's cotton and not beans. Cotton and rice fields require lots of water.

With the heat Missouri has had lately, I bet irrigation is in full force. Hopefully if LE decides to drain the ditches, the farmers will be in agreement.
Sadly, it might take a bit more than a hunch to get the farmers to agree to stop watering their crops. With the Mississippi River flood early this spring and now the heat and drought, the farmers have taken a hit.

That ditch is right by where they found the training wheels. Hope Breeann didn't wander out that way and try to get a drink or cool off there.

 

[HeinekenMan]

And in none of the stories does Dad see her alive and well before he leaves that morning. He said she was still sound asleep @ 10 am when he left.

I am wondering if she was already gone by then. Does mom have her own car?
Or did she take Dad's car out for a drive while he was in the shower that morning?

You just hit on a scenario I had never considered. Does someone have a timeline up yet? I find it suspicious that mom says he left closer to 11 rather than closer to 10. Her version conveniently gives her less time to do something.

Her shifty eyes in that NBC interview are a problem for me. She never looked at the camera, and at one point she started to break down. But it wasn't a normal sort of breakdown. I sensed that she was more ashamed than sad.

 

[katydid23]

Why would an abductor take the time to take the wheels off and toss them? Makes no sense to me. Just take the child, take the bike too, if it is easier, but get the heck out of town. To me, either they are not her wheels, or she was not abducted. JMO, JMO, JMO

And dad says they are her wheels, so... she was NOT abducted. imoo

Next thing I would like to know is if there were any CPS visits to the home recently. Did mom have a bad temper? Did Breeann maybe wet her bed that morning? Just sayin...

 

[HeinekenMan]

<modsnip> But the location of the wheels could be a huge clue. If one was by the road, anyone could have tossed it from a vehicle. But the other was 30 feet from the road. That means that someone either could really throw a long way or took a huge chance by leaving a vehicle and walking into a field where, apparently, searchers had already been.

If they determine that the wheels were planted, one obvious question is whether a parent could have planted them. Another key question is where the bike wheels were hidden. Now think about this...what if LE planted them? Can you imagine that? Some guy is saying that they definitely belong to his daughter when they definitely do not.

Food for thought...

 

[dsntslp]

What 3 YO sleeps till 10:30/11 am unless they were up super late the night before or was sick? Has anything been said about what was going on at the house the night before? The day before?

I simply can not imagine a perp taking the child with the bike and then removing and dumping training wheels. Makes zero sense to me, zero.

I am not caught up yet from yesterday. I'll go back and read the previous thread from where I left off.