GUILTY MO - Breeann Rodriguez, 3, Senath, 6 August 2011 - #2

[MEM2010]

Perhaps taking off the training wheels with the promise to teach her how to ride without them was used as the lure to take her ? Then the perp panicked and realized he had to dispose of them ? MOO

If he lives very close by he would maybe have known that the field had been searched already.... Maybe can't rule out a local teenager(s)... MOO

I have thought of that scenario as well.

But if the perp already had her would he really take the time to take off the wheels still?


Would he take them off right in front of the house? Around the corner? In the van?

 

[scottiemom]

Maybe the wheel is white, and the connecting arm is black? The size bike she'd be on would fit in the back of a compact sedan no problems.

 

[MEM2010]

New article

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/197104/20110812/breeann-wheels-lie-detector-test.htm

 

[CN2Souls]

yes I have.

Not everyone is a master mechanic and has all the tools
necessary to make adjustments.

I did after I was tied of tighten the bolt that kept coming loose I liquid nailed it to the brace,:blushing: :giggle:

but then I needed to adjust it and the only thing I could do was, bend it...:crazy:

 

[MEM2010]

yes I have.

Not everyone is a master mechanic and has all the tools
necessary to make adjustments.

Thanks! I wasn't sure how hard it would be to been the actual leg so now I see it's possible.

 

[liz b.]

Those are my thoughts exactly, MsFacetious! The bike shown on the NCMEC posted is unlike any bikes of 16" and smaller than I have seen. The Huffy Sea Star is a very common bike, but most of the ones that I see are the blue and pink/fuscia one or pink and purple model. I have not seen the one on the poster ever in person.

If her bike is identical in color and style to the one on the poster, it would stand out to me much more than the other Huffy Sea Stars that I have seen. The colors for a girls bike are that unusual. JMOO!

I wish they would specify the similarities or dissimilarities, as that would really skew how important seeing any small girls bike would be to call in.

I agree that it seems strange that the public has not been shown a photo of the identical model of bike. Does LE think someone might actually be using the bike ? Someone who lives close by ? And LE does not want this to come to light at this time ? None of this stuff with her bike makes sense right now... MOO

 

[flipflop]

Ok so we have:

Failed Poly, VS Not Failed Poly

White Training wheels VS White and Black

New Clean Training wheels VS scuffed bent Training wheels

Bike that is Pink and Purple VS Bike that kind of looks like it

Pink Short VS Purple Pants

5 min Water drink VS 20 min Water Drink

You can never trust the media, and LE blames FB for rumours and wrong info...they get it from the media!!!

 

[CatFancier]

Have any of the parents on here had to physically bend a training wheel, or it's handle, to get the bike to ride properly?

tia

It's been years but yes, I have. With the training wheels on normally, when the bike leans onto them, it's really leaning and can be scary to the little ones. I bent them to make it stand up straighter.

 

[dsntslp]

Pic of dad on the 4 wheeler reminds me of R Cummings on the horse for some reason.

 

[MEM2010]

Now this all begs the question how did the father see the bend and LE did not?

I think I'm going to just leave all things training wheel alone until more info is released b/c I'm going crazy.

 

[CN2Souls]

pic of dad on the 4 wheeler reminds me of r cummings on the horse for some reason.

omg, me too!!

 

[belimom]

Have any of the parents on here had to physically bend a training wheel, or it's handle, to get the bike to ride properly?

tia

Another one here to say that yes, we have had do that. DS's training wheels were never really "right" and seemed to bend easily. They also seemed to be at the right (or wrong?) height to make him get stuck and spin the wheels, just like Breeann's father has said. We bent them ourselves to make them better but ended up buying new ones in the end that seemed sturdier.

DD just got a new bike this summer with training wheels and we have not had the same problems as we did with DS's bike.

 

[belimom]

Have any of the parents on here had to physically bend a training wheel, or it's handle, to get the bike to ride properly?

tia

Sorry to quote you twice but, if I were to read this quote and not know any background on the case, I would think that somewhere out there is a bike with bent training wheels and maybe a bent handle... which sounds like how a bike may look if it were run over.

Just a thought...

ETA: has he also said the handlebars were bent? I hadn't read that.

 

[liz b.]

I have thought of that scenario as well.

But if the perp already had her would he really take the time to take off the wheels still?


Would he take them off right in front of the house? Around the corner? In the van?

IDK, but in my experience it often takes a lug wrench to get the training wheels off . Speculating that he spoke to her as she passed his house, possibly the garage door was open, and he took her into the garage. If so, this would be an opportunistic crime. And not a well thought out,planned scenario. Could well be that the perp will be caught...

 

[MarthaM]

Reasons to remove training wheels off a bike taken with an abducted child:

1. the bike is too wide to dispose of with the training wheels sticking out, would make the bike stick out more and be noticed.
2. to spread out evidence
3. to lead LE on a trail in circles
4.????????? anything else???????

Or...

The person who tossed the training wheels isn't the abductor. In other words, whoever has the rest of the bike doesn't have the child. One possibility: The bike was left on the road or on the side of the road or even tossed out of a vehicle onto the shoulder, and someone comes upon it. One training wheel may have already come off, person finding the bike doesn't see that one so figures they'll take the bike but don't need the second training wheel. So they take that one off and toss it (would explain why the wheels were found a bit of a distance apart).

If this happened before the media coverage that she was missing, there could be someone who thought they were just picking up an abandoned bike and doesn't know LE is looking for it.

And the third unidentified piece of evidence would be the one possibly really connected to the abductor, unlike the bike itself.

 

[dsntslp]

Somebody said up thread that it might be necessary to remove the TW in order to get the bike in a truck box in the back of a pick-up truck. This makes sense to me. It is, in fact, the only explanation that does so far, to me anyway.

Who drives a p/u with a truck box?

ETA: It is my belief that if somebody stumbled across the bike, and did not know the circumstances, they would simply throw the whole bike in their vehicle and take the training wheels off at home. Maybe save them for a friend who might need them even.

Just my opinion.

 

[hollye]

Somebody said up thread that it might be necessary to remove the TW in order to get the bike in a truck box in the back of a pick-up truck. This makes sense to me. It is, in fact, the only explanation that does so far, to me anyway.

Who drives a p/u with a truck box?

It's the only explanation that makes sense to me either at this point, if indeed the training wheels that were found are the ones from Breeann's bike.

 

[Kat]

Have any of the parents on here had to physically bend a training wheel, or it's handle, to get the bike to ride properly?

tia

Yes, the bracket that connects the training wheel to the bicycle. On two of our kids bikes.

 

[SilkySifaka]

Logged on today hoping there would be a little more clarity in this case yet now I am even more confused.

So LE is stating the wheels looked new while ER is saying they looked used and bent:waitasec:


They found a bike exactly like Breeann's at the aunts house but looks nothing like the description:waitasec:

ER says they failed the poly yet the FBI says they are clear?:waitasec:


Where is Breeann!!?:waitasec:

BBM. this has happened in other cases where cops lie to the victims parents and say they have failed to see if they break and confess or give more info. The parent tells the media and the FBI ends up publicly clearing them when it is false. Not the parents fault though, they just said what they were told...that they failed.

 

[dsntslp]

I think the bike might fit in a large truck box for a full size P/U with the TW still on. It would not, however, fit in the truck box my dad had on his lil' Toyota P/U without removing the training wheels. IMO