GUILTY MO - Breeann Rodriguez, 3, Senath, 6 August 2011 - #3

[lauriej]

Are we absolutely sure LE got the right guy? Is there any physical evidence? I mean this guy had lived in that neighborhood for over a decade, why did he decide to act now, against Breeann? Have any other children come forward and disclosed anything about any interaction with this man? Does this man have a wife and children? If he does I'm sure they are horrified.

..yes, a wife and 3 kids..


http://abcnews.go.com/US/breeann-rodriguez-missing-father-charged-murder/story?id=14297243

Breeann Rodriguez Missing: Father of Three Charged With Murder

Morgan was quietly arrested around 11 p.m. Friday, said Debra Miller, who lives across the street and learned from someone else that her decade-long neighbor had been taken into police custody.

"Earlier we had noticed items being taken out of the house by the FBI," Miller, 51, said. "His wife just came over and said they were taking out computers and just bags of stuff. ... Of course she was upset but trying to believe the best."

Morgan worked in a steel factory in nearby Blytheville, Ark., Miller said.

"Our street is a dead-end street. We watch after each other's children. Our grandchildren have been here all summer," she said. "This is so shocking. It's hard to believe. ... He's such a small-built man, about 5'6," maybe 130 or 140 popunds, real meek. And just always seemed like a real nice guy."

 

[milanj]

It does no good to blame the parents, they really must be going through enough as it is and blaming themselves. After reading from so many what that town is like (low population, safe, everyone knows everyone, NO crime) and hearing the parents speak they seem to have moved there so they DIDN'T have to helicopter parent... I myself might have felt secure enough there to turn my back for a second and have the unthinkable happen.

They surely must realize by now that they were very sadly mistaken and that NOWHERE is safe for children. Hell, I'm wondering if I should even feel safe when I go pee anymore without taking my 13 year old daughter with me for crying out loud :sick:

 

[Janeumayer]

There was comment on one of the local forums, Topix IIRC, by someone who went to high school with the perp. Said he graduated in 1986, was very shy, but likeable.

He said he was shy and quiet. Didn't say "likable". :twocents: eace:

 

[CarrieBean]

The parents are already suffering the most severe circumstance for letting their daughter out of their sight. No need to blame anyone other than the creep who stole and murdered Breeann at this point.

Something like this could happen to the child of the most attentive parent. These <modsnip> just wait for the opportunity.

 

[Salem]

Well....I certainly WILL question why a 3 yr. old was out and about with only a 5 yr. old to supervise her. TOTALLY irresponsible for the mom or both mom and dad to allow that situation and unfair to put that responsibility on a 5 yr. old. Infuriating! Why make it easy for the creeps to grab your baby?? (not you....the lazy parents) :banghead:

Many will say the parents have paid the ultimate price for their mistake, irresponsibility, ignorance, laziness....whatever....but, I disagree! Their baby paid that price. She's dead.

The parents are victims in this tragedy. Children should be able to play in their front yards, ride their bikes, and kick up their heels without fear of being murdered. This was a small town, in a closed neighborhood, where everyone knew everyone. A child outside for 5 or 10 minutes should NOT RESULT in murder.

Parents should not be expected to smother their children in order to keep them safe. AND BLAMING THE PARENTS IN THIS CASE IS NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED.

From all appearances, they were very loving, caring parents and they do not deserve to be taken to task.

Salem
Mod

 

[cluciano63]

Arkansas does not seem to have a searchable data base for criminal records like Missouri does; at least not one that I can find.

 

[Jaxson]

It does no good to blame the parents, they really must be going through enough as it is and blaming themselves. After reading from so many what that town is like (low population, safe, everyone knows everyone, NO crime) and hearing the parents speak they seem to have moved there so they DIDN'T have to helicopter parent... I myself might have felt secure enough there to turn my back for a second and have the unthinkable happen.

They surely must realize by now that they were very sadly mistaken and that NOWHERE is safe for children. Hell, I'm wondering if I should even feel safe when I go pee anymore without taking my 13 year old daughter with me for crying out loud :sick:

Ita agree, and not everyone can afford to be a 'helicopter' parent. Some have to go to daycare where they get molested or left on buses because they fell asleep.
We cannot be with them every second of every day.

 

[momtective]

Arkansas does not seem to have a searchable data base for criminal records like Missouri does; at least not one that I can find.

I've searched family watchdog for all States and he's not there in any State under Shawn Dale Morgan.

 

[Salem]

These are really the scariest of all. Just a neighbor. No long record, not a registered SO, not family, just there. He could be anyone's neighbor.

And not just a neighbor, but a neighborhood resident for 10 YEARS! Unless the dude was creepy to begin with, who the heck would think their neighbor, in the neighborhood for 10 years, with 3 kids of his own and a wife that has friends in the neighborhood, would be capable of this? Who would even think such a person would do this? Not me.

Heck, I may have seen him on the street and asked him to keep an eye on my kid, while I ran in to use the bathroom. He was no stranger

Scary, scary, scary.

Salem

 

[katydid23]

...and was out front with her brother who came inside. At that point maybe mom should have went out with her. I have heard brother was inside for 5 minutes and 20 minutes. Like I said I do not find fault with the parents WITH WHAT WE KNOW and I am not going to lay blame or guilt on them. I am just not. Yes a 3 year old can be taught stranger danger. Especially if they are outgoing they need to be. If you disagree that is fine but please don't 'OMG' me.

But he wasn't a stranger. He was a neighbor, a father from the same street. And I am not sure that he came and nabbed her. From what I have read so far, she may have ridden up the street to his house. He may have taken her from his own front yard. The point is a 3 yr old child should not be out riding her bike all alone. Even with a 5 yr old it is too dangerous. imoo

 

[cluciano63]

I've searched family watchdog for all States and he's not there in any State under Shawn Dale Morgan.

He doesn't seem to be an RSO...just wondering if he has any criminal history. I cannot imagine someone killing a child who had not been in trouble with the law before, at his age. It is just mind-boggling.

 

[Kat]

Maybe he was a racist

The people posting over on topix were IMHO making up rumors about Breeann's Daddy based on his race. I was so hot when I read that crap I had to sit on my fingers. For real. JMHO

Why. Why. Why. This precious baby girl was just playing out in front of her own house. Man---I might have to take a break after this case, sometimes I do that, I have to step back and focus on other things in my life because it just tears me up inside to see all these babies and children murdered.

 

[SilkySifaka]

And not just a neighbor, but a neighborhood resident for 10 YEARS! Unless the dude was creepy to begin with, who the heck would think their neighbor, in the neighborhood for 10 years, with 3 kids of his own and a wife that has friends in the neighborhood, would be capable of this? Who would even think such a person would do this? Not me.

Heck, I may have seen him on the street and asked him to keep an eye on my kid, while I ran in to use the bathroom. He was no stranger

Scary, scary, scary.

Salem

I agree..far more likely to ask him to watch them than think he would take them and murder them.

 

[Kat]

I've searched family watchdog for all States and he's not there in any State under Shawn Dale Morgan.

Momtective was an article posted backthread that stated that they had removed computers from the home Morgan?

Someone is talking about that on another forum. It might just be rumor?

But if it's been reported then I bet he's got an internet presence somewhere. They usually do.


ETA: yes it was reported. http://abcnews.go.com/US/breeann-rodriguez-missing-father-charged-murder/story?id=14297243 probably posted backthread.

 

[Jaxson]

But he wasn't a stranger. He was a neighbor, a father from the same street. And I am not sure that he came and nabbed her. From what I have read so far, she may have ridden up the street to his house. He may have taken her from his own front yard. The point is a 3 yr old child should not be out riding her bike all alone. Even with a 5 yr old it is too dangerous. imoo

I am not saying stranger danger would have helped in this particular case. I don't feel the parents were at fault and they are being blamed by some here. I am saying we can't always be with them every second of every day. That he could have come in her window and took her. That we cannot smother our children. We need to protect them in every way we can as much as we can but things still happen. Everything is not black and white in this world. If it was children would never be taken.
Yes I saw that she may have ridden up the street to his house and that he has been there for ten years and the parents may have let her go to his house before. She may have played with his kids many times and he is not an RSO and some parents might have felt they knew him enough not to worry about letting him keep an eye on her while they ran in to answer the phone or use the bathroom.

I don't blame these parents. Didn't when she went missing, don't now. That's all I am saying.

 

[momtective]

Looking through friends of Morgan's wife on FB...dang so many friends and family with lil' kids. So many with posters of Breeann as their profile pic...so very sad. Finding NO fb for Shawn.

 

[TxLady2]

The parents are victims in this tragedy. Children should be able to play in their front yards, ride their bikes, and kick up their heels without fear of being murdered. This was a small town, in a closed neighborhood, where everyone knew everyone. A child outside for 5 or 10 minutes should NOT RESULT in murder.

Parents should not be expected to smother their children in order to keep them safe. AND BLAMING THE PARENTS IN THIS CASE IS NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED.

From all appearances, they were very loving, caring parents and they do not deserve to be taken to task.

Salem
Mod

Thank you, and I agree. And regarding the bolded in red part, this is exactly why I hate to start putting blame on anybody especially parents in the very beginning, just from watching a short interview on t.v. It is so unfair to sit here and analyze every word and expression and look for mistakes or signs of guilt. We need to stop and think, these parents and other family members are in shock and at their most vulnerable time, they are not going to be their natural selves. Nobody in that situation is going to be at their best. Not to mention that the likes of Nancy Grace could throw anybody into a tizzy when she is in her bulldog mode.

 

[matou]

Ita agree, and not everyone can afford to be a 'helicopter' parent. Some have to go to daycare where they get molested or left on buses because they fell asleep.
We cannot be with them every second of every day.

Looking through friends of Morgan's wife on FB...dang so many friends and family with lil' kids. So many with posters of Breeann as their profile pic...so very sad. Finding NO fb for Shawn.

Do you have his fb? TIA

 

[momtective]

Do you have his fb? TIA

No fb for Shawn. Found other family but not him.
Reminder of TOS NO SLEUTHING FAMILY MEMBERS! I wasn't sleuthing them I was just looking for Shawn's page and found theirs in the process.

 

[Jetaime]

I definately wouldn't blame the parents either. My God, they're going through enough right now and have to live with the *what if's* for the rest of their life. But as an aside, I chose not to be a helicopter mom/smother my children when they wanted to do age appropriate things. At 3, and even a few years after- I was a smotherer. Not to say that my way is the way...just that at 3, most toddlers are just grasping the whole potty training thing. No baby, no family deserves this.