GUILTY MO - Breeann Rodriguez, 3, Senath, 6 August 2011 - #3

[Kat]

I'm puzzled by the "armed criminal action" charge. Anyone take a guess?

 

[cluciano63]

The people posting over on topix were IMHO making up rumors about Breeann's Daddy based on his race. I was so hot when I read that crap I had to sit on my fingers. For real. JMHO

Why. Why. Why. This precious baby girl was just playing out in front of her own house. Man---I might have to take a break after this case, sometimes I do that, I have to step back and focus on other things in my life because it just tears me up inside to see all these babies and children murdered.

I have to say, that while race should be no part of something like this...I am somewhat relieved that the suspect is NOT a minority for that very reason...people just go nuts.

 

[TxLady2]

Does anybody remember the movie that was made about the girl who inspired the Amber Alert system? IIRC, the man who murdered her was a friend, a neighbor, a "good guy" who everyone knew and respected. He was also the one who "found" her body on a search. He was caught because he offered a ride to another girl and they followed him out of town with the girl in his truck, and that little girl was saved.
Just goes to show you, it could be anybody, not just RSOs. I'm sure nobody suspected this guy, either. I don't know if he's ever done this kind of thing before but there's always a first time.
Or maybe they have the wrong guy. That's happened before, too.

 

[Jetaime]

I'm puzzled by the "armed criminal action" charge. Anyone take a guess?

I actually looked it up earlier, and I got chills. I hate to even think....

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/c500-599/5710000015.htm

 

[DairyGirl]

I definately wouldn't blame the parents either. My God, they're going through enough right now and have to live with the *what if's* for the rest of their life. But as an aside, I chose not to be a helicopter mom/smother my children when they wanted to do age appropriate things. At 3, and even a few years after- I was a smotherer. Not to say that my way is the way...just that at 3, most toddlers are just grasping the whole potty training thing. No baby, no family deserves this.

My daughter is 16 and I am definitely a helicopter mother. I was that way with my other kids, too. The teen years can be so dangerous. By the time I was 13 (actually much before) I was left to my own devices and got into a lot of trouble. Kids always need supervision. The hard part is letting go when they are supposedly "adults".

 

[Kat]

Here is the statute on the charge.

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/c500-599/5710000015.htm

ETA: Jetaime posted it up there ^^^^ Thanks Jetaime!

 

[plaidmom]

I can't find any fault with the parents with what we know. He very easily could have stolen her from her bed...it's been known to happen and more than once. I don't believe it's realistic to be with our children every second anyway and it appears he had a very small window of opportunity and took it. Sheltering our children keeps them innocent to the dangers out there. I think stranger danger is much more affective. If we are with our kids every waking moment they will be the trusting teens that are kidnapped at the mall or after school and I also believe that more sheltered children are the ones who do the more dangerous things as they get older.

Thank you for posting this.

I'm going to go to bat here for children and for their right to be children!

A three, or five, or seven, year old (etc etc) human being has the right, to ride their bicycle in their neighborhood, or play in their front yard, or even go to a neighbor's house. Unharmed.

IMO, seeking to change the behavior of the children is the wrong tack. Shouldn't we (as a society?) instead be looking at the predators???

For those who have a hard time wrapping their heads around this, think back to 9/11. What if, after that tragedy, the response had been "people shouldn't travel in airplanes" or "people shouldn't work in hi-rise buildings"???

But nooooo, we went after the terrorists. The aberrations. We came up with new ways to find and track and yes, profile (touchy word!), them.

People kept flying and going to work.

And, I believe, children should keep doing kid-things.

What I propose is that we start thinking of new and innovative ways to identify and stop these "terrorists" (for that is what they are) who prey upon our children. I wonder what would happen if we spent as much time and $$$ and effort on this project as we did as a nation after 9/11?

 

[Coldpizza]

Is anyone willing to catch me up? Just got here and not having the patience to read back

Please?

 

[luckyme]

I just logged i to see this!!! :gasp: Just awful. Im telling you the world is not like it used to be. When i was little we played outside rode bikes everything. My nine year old was at the bus stop the otherday and i was at the end of the drive watching and a truck pulled up and stopped. I started screaming and ran down the road in my pajamas. He knows not to talk to strangers but he did. When i got there they pulled away. son told me the man wanted to know if school had already started!! I told him next time just run home. very very scary! He never goes to bus stop alone. Im more cautious because of these horrible cases i follow. :banghead:

 

[Yellow Rose]

The parents are victims in this tragedy. Children should be able to play in their front yards, ride their bikes, and kick up their heels without fear of being murdered. This was a small town, in a closed neighborhood, where everyone knew everyone. A child outside for 5 or 10 minutes should NOT RESULT in murder.
Parents should not be expected to smother their children in order to keep them safe. AND BLAMING THE PARENTS IN THIS CASE IS NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED.

From all appearances, they were very loving, caring parents and they do not deserve to be taken to task.

Salem
Mod

I could not agree more! A child or children shouldn't have to be smothered by adults in this sort of setting. Heck, for that matter, a mother could run inside to grab a ringing telephone and this type of "perp" could take advantage of those few seconds. The parents are INDEED victims too. This was their precious little "Princess!"

This father has been physically ill with grief...you can see that in his interview while still constantly looking for his little girl. Please please please don't add to this family's grief.

 

[MEM2010]

I'm puzzled by the "armed criminal action" charge. Anyone take a guess?

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/c500-599/5710000015.htm

"any person who commits any felony under the laws of this state by, with, or through the use, assistance, or aid of a dangerous instrument or deadly weapon is also guilty of the crime of armed criminal action"



poor Breeann

eta I see this has already been covered.

 

[cluciano63]

Is anyone willing to catch me up? Just got here and not having the patience to read back

Please?

A neighborhood man, a father and husband, has been charged with her murder...she has not been located as yet though. Police have said she was suffocated so we presume he has confessed at least partially. Unknown as to how they came upon him right now.

Adding: not sure if media or LE said suffocation...

 

[Kat]

If he confessed (confession a rumor) to strangling her and that was what brought about the murder charge then where does a weapon come into this? He certainly wouldn't need a weapon to abduct a 3 yr old.

I don't know why I'm so boggled by this, sorry you all.

 

[flipflop]

The parents are victims in this tragedy. Children should be able to play in their front yards, ride their bikes, and kick up their heels without fear of being murdered. This was a small town, in a closed neighborhood, where everyone knew everyone. A child outside for 5 or 10 minutes should NOT RESULT in murder.

Parents should not be expected to smother their children in order to keep them safe. AND BLAMING THE PARENTS IN THIS CASE IS NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED.

From all appearances, they were very loving, caring parents and they do not deserve to be taken to task.

Salem
Mod[/QUOTE

AGREE WITH YOU 100%. Even teaching this child about stranger danger wouldn't have helped...this was a neighbour, a familiar face, for all we know he could have been a friend of the Rodriguez, many neighbourhoods have bbq's and parties.

My sister lived in a cul de sac and had several kids in the neighbourhood. All the parents watched out for others, they all played in the front yard and in the middle of the cul de sac. All the kids would go inside others houses when invited in, everyone trusted everyone. It was a small town as well.

No one is to blame except for the who did this. It is easy for some to blame the parents, but I feel they did nothing wrong but love her and trusted her neighbourhood in her small town.

You hear of other cases where it ends up being the step parent, the Ex, the Priest, the teacher, the babysitter....all people who a 3 yr old and parent would trust. This just goes to show...you really never know who someone truly is and what they are capable of!!!!

 

[cluciano63]

If he confessed (confession a rumor) to strangling her and that was what brought about the murder charge then where does a weapon come into this? He certainly wouldn't need a weapon to abduct a 3 yr old.

I don't know why I'm so boggled by this, sorry you all.

I thought they said suffocation as opposed to strangling but now you make me think of a noose

 

[MEM2010]

Ok so this ...

(pretty odd suspect)

...is scheduled to be in court tuesday

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/08/13/3074654/man-charged-in-girls-disappearance.html

 

[Coldpizza]

Oh My God, what is wrong with people...

Fly with all the young little Angels taken too soon Breeann, I'm so sorry for her family

 

[Jaxson]

Thank you for posting this.

I'm going to go to bat here for children and for their right to be children!

A three, or five, or seven, year old (etc etc) human being has the right, to ride their bicycle in their neighborhood, or play in their front yard, or even go to a neighbor's house. Unharmed.

IMO, seeking to change the behavior of the children is the wrong tack. Shouldn't we (as a society?) instead be looking at the predators???

For those who have a hard time wrapping their heads around this, think back to 9/11. What if, after that tragedy, the response had been "people shouldn't travel in airplanes" or "people shouldn't work in hi-rise buildings"???



But nooooo, we went after the terrorists. The aberrations. We came up with new ways to find and track and yes, profile (touchy word!), them.

People kept flying and going to work.

And, I believe, children should keep doing kid-things.

What I propose is that we start thinking of new and innovative ways to identify and stop these "terrorists" (for that is what they are) who prey upon our children. I wonder what would happen if we spent as much time and $$$ and effort on this project as we did as a nation after 9/11?

I couldn't simply just thank you for this post. I am feeling somewhat attacked by all those who want to blame the parents. I was just about to leave this thread. ITA with everything you said.

 

[dr dona]

I send prayers and love to these poor parents and older brother. When my children were young we lived in a small town in a super safe kid -friendly neighborhood. Everyone had children and we all watched over all of them..We had 6 girls in three adjacent homes within 2 years in age. They were all best buddies and they played in one another's driveway, houses and yards. We moms watched them but we didn't hang all over them. I could be this mom!!!! A NEIGHBOR DID THIS!!!!!! tHERE BUT FOR THE GRACE OF god GO I!!!! Prayers to this newest angel and to her family.
I come to this site to pray and hope for our missing children. I also pray for their families. But, most of the times my hopes are dashed and the missing are gone. But, once in awhile a good thing happens. So, we WS's have to just keep hangin in there ----lots of sorrow but our support and love to all victims and their families.

 

[Kat]

We can teach our children stranger danger, we can hover over them constantly but the unfortunate reality is that if someone takes an unhealthy interest in one of our kids (could be an extended relative, a friend that's been over to the house often, a neighbor we speak to, a teacher even) that predator is watching that child like prey. Like a hawk. All it takes is for us to glance away for one second and they can swoop in.

Many of these cases are just that. We can't teach our children to not trust a single soul on this earth without damaging them IMHO.

It's the predator not the child or the parents. IMHO he may possibly have had his eye on Breeann for quite some time, just waiting for the right moment. If indeed he is a SO.

JMHO