GUILTY MO - Breeann Rodriguez, 3, Senath, 6 August 2011 - #6

[CN2Souls]

Being a "good" worker tells nothing about a person
Jeffrey Dahmer
He was one of the best worker as a mixer at Ambrosia Chocolate Factory in Milwaukee WI as was told by his boss.
And yet he was responsible for a series of gruesome murders of 17 young men.:sick:

John Wayne Gacy, Jr. One of Chicago's top construction contractors
Yet he raped and murdered 33 teenage boys and young men between 1972 and 1978.

 

[Jo in Calif]

I wonder what the four people in his bomb threat have in common?

Well I will admit, that the first thing that I thought of, that these 4 people could have in common.
Was the word "Mexican" that was used in the affidavit.
I'm not trying to start anything up, but it has been stated by LE that he gave no motive, this, if in fact is what these 4 people have in common, could very well be what this quiet person has brewing inside of him.

 

[flipflop]

Well I will admit, that the first thing that I thought of, that these 4 people could have in common.
Was the word "Mexican" that was used in the affidavit.
I'm not trying to start anything up, but it has been stated by LE that he gave no motive, this, if in fact is what these 4 people have in common, could very well be what this quiet person has brewing inside of him.

You could be right about it being racial, but
I still believe the motive is sexually related, or both! With #3 on the probable cause missing, (LE doesnt want us to know something yet that they knew when they released the rest of the info) his computer was taken from his home, (Im guessing they found pics of BR or kiddie or both) I think there is much more to this story. The autopsy must be done as they have the funeral planned for this weekend, I feel LE is holding off on all released info until after the funeral, for respect of the family and community. Releasing this type of info prior to saying goodbye to this sweet angel is just wrong.

 

[scorekeeper]

ANSWER to Hollyblue's post 16

re CARRYING breeann from church funeral to cemetery

Per phone call this afternoon to Senath city hall,
the plan is to carry casket on foot/pallbearers (not in hearse).

BeanE
Thanks again for map with 5-6 block walking route for procession.
Despite your modesty about map-savvy, you did a great job of locating the cemetery.

Everyone dressed in white; with the little casket....what a sight that will be...I'm crying already.....God love them......my heart is breaking but so thankful they have the opportunity to celebrate beautiful Breeann's life...

 

[mrye4709]

Everyone dressed in white; with the little casket....what a sight that will be...I'm crying already.....God love them......my heart is breaking but so thankful they have the opportunity to celebrate beautiful Breeann's life...

I think they are doing it in a very beautiful way.

 

[BeanE]

Maybe he was able to find employment because there are tax credits for businesses willing to employ disabled workers.

Morgan is disabled? I missed that. What is his disability?

 

[mkay882]

Working in personnel, at one time, when other companies call about a worker's work history we were not allowed to tell anything except yes they were employed with us at one time and how long.
Period.
Not what they were earning, not drug usage even if it was in their permanent work record etc. Nada.

 

[pdxmama]

To several who have asked- my public record research indicates that the father and SM both have Paragould AR (where that plant/bomb threat was located) , Kennett Mo and Senath MO listed as cities lived in. If that info is correct of course. I believe someone else (hi! sorry, I forget who you were?) had caught that tidbit recently also. When I originally looked, I was wondering if there was any 'history' between the 2 parties..........and MAYBE there was? Now with the bomb threat thing??


ETA-I went back to the previous thread- I believe it was laniefi, that also caught the same cities thing

That is truly strange. I have a feeling there is A LOT more to this story, beyond what any of us can speculate upon right now.

 

[Dee10]

Since it appears he pled down to a misdemeanor, perhaps they were none the wiser. The laws are also somewhat strict about what a potential employer can ask of the former.

MOO

Exactly, I have employed people for the last 25 yrs. for our businesses & I rarely check with previous employers anymore because the person who gives a bad reference could be sued, so would you really get the truth? I also have only gotten one call in years regarding a reference on someone I had employed but the job was going to be caring for others and my son got a good referral lol, but I was upfront & told them I am a bit prejudice.

 

[greenpalm]

I was just noodling on this. On Thu Aug 11, after the 3 pieces of evidence were found, LE brought out both scent and cadaver dogs. They said they did so because they got an odor.

What I'm wondering is if this might be something we could add to our clues about what evidence #3 was.

The new canine units are serving two roles in the search. One group is comprised of scent dogs that Police Chief Omar Karnes says are working on a newly discovered scent in the target area. The second are cadaver dogs, whose purpose is to detect the remains of deceased people.

NBC News reports that the searchers are hoping those dogs wouldn’t find what they are trained to recover.

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/state/missouri/search-widens-for-missing-missouri-3-year-old

See the video with the article for Chief Karnes saying they had an odor.

Do you suppose SM, could have, along with the training wheels, thrown some raw chicken or something out in that field? Maybe that's one of the pieces of evidence that was found? Something that would start to decompose and smell, in an effort to mislead LE deliberately?

Also, I'm still thinking about the computers being seized. I wonder if SM left an internet trail. Perhaps he was visiting some websites and thought he was anonymous, but posted some details about the murder that only the perp could know? Then they might have been able to trace a user account back to him or a static IP address? DH knows more about IP addresses than I do, I may have that wrong, but there are two kinds of IP addresses, and one is easily traceable and one not so much.

Just stuff to think about.

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

Do you suppose SM, could have, along with the training wheels, thrown some raw chicken or something out in that field? Maybe that's one of the pieces of evidence that was found? Something that would start to decompose and smell, in an effort to mislead LE deliberately?

Also, I'm still thinking about the computers being seized. I wonder if SM left an internet trail. Perhaps he was visiting some websites and thought he was anonymous, but posted some details about the murder that only the perp could know? Then they might have been able to trace a user account back to him or a static IP address? DH knows more about IP addresses than I do, I may have that wrong, but there are two kinds of IP addresses, and one is easily traceable and one not so much.

Just stuff to think about.

I thought that the odor of decomposing human flesh was distinct from that of decomposing non-human animal flesh, especially to trained dogs?

 

[wannabedetective]

Do you suppose SM, could have, along with the training wheels, thrown some raw chicken or something out in that field? Maybe that's one of the pieces of evidence that was found? Something that would start to decompose and smell, in an effort to mislead LE deliberately?

Also, I'm still thinking about the computers being seized. I wonder if SM left an internet trail. Perhaps he was visiting some websites and thought he was anonymous, but posted some details about the murder that only the perp could know? Then they might have been able to trace a user account back to him or a static IP address? DH knows more about IP addresses than I do, I may have that wrong, but there are two kinds of IP addresses, and one is easily traceable and one not so much.

Just stuff to think about.

I would tend to think that if he posted stuff about the murder "anonymously" somewhere, one of us would have stumbled upon it. Don't you think?

 

[Shutterfly]

So at 34 year old, this guy left not one but two threatening notes, in a bathroom...at work. How mature. I guess he did so because he was pizzed off in some way about the employment status of 'Eddie, Britt, Amy and Gary B.' HE wanted them gone. And he was going to get his way, if he had to intimidate people in higher places in order to effect that outcome. Who does he think he is exactly? But then he threatened people and hid behind a seemingly anonymous, stray note? He is major league screwed up. Wow, pillar of the community that one. I think a WHOLE lot of people are WAY wrong about this guy. Something tells me that those closest to him do not know him AT ALL like they believed they did. Obviously he's a super actor..he seems to have had everyone snowed.

:twocents:

 

[katydid23]

Since it appears he pled down to a misdemeanor, perhaps they were none the wiser. The laws are also somewhat strict about what a potential employer can ask of the former.

MOO

I was not aware of those laws about employee references. My son is in the exact opposite situation. He has had two very extensive background investigations for his application to the police academy so far. They ask EVERY previous employer very detailed questions and they have them fill out written questionaires. The investigation is very exhaustive, so I assumed that any employer could ask anything of a previous employer. :loser:

 

[greenpalm]

I thought that the odor of decomposing human flesh was distinct from that of decomposing non-human animal flesh, especially to trained dogs?

Oh it does smell differently, but the articles say they brought the dogs in because they (the humans) detected an odor. The chief or the sheriff said whatever that evidence was that it didn't look good for Breeann. I'm sure the dogs could tell the difference, but if he planted meat, or roadkill, or some other decomposing article out there in that field, tucked out of sight under something, the searchers certainly would have detected an odor, and that along with the training wheels might have been a very effective decoy. It certainly did cause LE to spend a couple of days searching that field.

I would tend to think that if he posted stuff about the murder "anonymously" somewhere, one of us would have stumbled upon it. Don't you think?

I wasn't thinking of something one of us would stumble across. I was thinking of the recent Dreamboard child arrests that were made. If there was one website out there like that, couldn't there be others that are still operating? The things mentioned in those articles made my blood run cold. I wouldn't know the first thing about looking for one of those sites, but I bet the FBI does, and I bet they check them when a child goes missing. <graphic warning> perhaps someone even submitted a snuff film?


http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/l...-International-Child-🤬🤬🤬🤬-Bust-126729673.html

In order to maintain their membership, participants were required to continually upload images of child sexual abuse…most of the victims were under 12, many of them infants

 

[cluciano63]

I was not aware of those laws about employee references. My son is in the exact opposite situation. He has had two very extensive background investigations for his application to the police academy so far. They ask EVERY previous employer very detailed questions and they have them fill out written questionaires. The investigation is very exhaustive, so I assumed that any employer could ask anything of a previous employer. :loser:

I worked for HR for years for a hotel company and it was always just how long they worked there and what position they held...but among the different hotels in the area we got used to giving certain pauses or emphasis on certain words, etc...to get a message across to the other employer, since we were not allowed to say anything. We couldn't even give a good reference in case that person turned out "bad" at the new job. Kinda ridiculous.

 

[BeanE]

I thought that the odor of decomposing human flesh was distinct from that of decomposing non-human animal flesh, especially to trained dogs?

That's my understanding, especially after watching the entirety of the Caylee Anthony trial. It's kind of drilled into my head that the odor is distinctive, to both humans and SAR dogs.

I was going to look it up and see if LE had said Morgan put Breeann in the water on the first day. I don't think they did, but I'm not sure. If not, I wondered if he'd put her in that field first, then went back and took her and put her in the water. That would have left an odor on the ground.

They may mean that the 3rd piece of evidence was the odor itself, or they could have meant perhaps gloves as another member mentioned earlier, or another trash bag that he left there for some reason. I dunno.

ETA: Okay just looked at the probable cause document and it does look like he was saying he disposed of Breeann's body the same day, but I wonder if that's true.

 

[mck16]

I was not aware of those laws about employee references. My son is in the exact opposite situation. He has had two very extensive background investigations for his application to the police academy so far. They ask EVERY previous employer very detailed questions and they have them fill out written questionaires. The investigation is very exhaustive, so I assumed that any employer could ask anything of a previous employer. :loser:

My son attended the police academy in Dallas. Applying for this is quite different than applying for work in a factory. but, also they investigate the family and the family dog if they can. The background check is very extensive as it should be. ty

 

[don_m]

I'm a little confused with info in the article. I can't find a Senath City Park where the memorial is to be. Also, are they saying her little body will literally be carried to the cemetery...because it's not just across the street or down the block. ?

When I was there sunday ,, there was a tiny park just across the street from the police dept,,, where People had been placing candles /balloons and such.
I THINK that is the park they are talking about.
Tenaris had bomb threats ,,,on 1 day,,,,, months ago.

 

[panthera]

I was not aware of those laws about employee references. My son is in the exact opposite situation. He has had two very extensive background investigations for his application to the police academy so far. They ask EVERY previous employer very detailed questions and they have them fill out written questionaires. The investigation is very exhaustive, so I assumed that any employer could ask anything of a previous employer. :loser:

There are some occupations, such as LE, for which that is necessary! Others, not so much.