MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #4

[3dogmom]

FYI all her twitter pages has been wiped clean of all the tweets in the last half hour or so

Between the myspace and the twitter....Definitely her attorney.

 

[akashana]

Yup. Lawyer's a day late and a dollar short!

 

[danni]

It's not relevent but I figured out why I found someone in MO with that name and it is because that is AB's bio mom's first name too. :doh:

I didn't see the comment or the website so I don't know the answer to this or I wouldn't ask but....could the comment have came from her mom if the person that posted has the same name as her mom? I know I along with my husband call our daughter "sis" she is the only girl with two brothers! I couldn't even tell you a good friends daughters name. I only know the girl by "Sis"!

 

[3dogmom]

Between the myspace and the twitter....Definitely her attorney.

removing evidence?

 

[tlcya]

Eiter LE or attorneys. Hopefully LE. Hate to see anyone remove evidence. Although evidence of what, a moody EMO girl (possible)

 

[akashana]

Maybe teens are different than I was, I started cutting due to emotional and physical abuse by my ex. Thank GOD he is an ex.

I don't mean to make light of your plight by any means. I am glad you had the emotional fortitude to get into recovery and stop cutting. But I do believe that a segment of the teen cutting population do it for the negative attention value they get from it, and that's very sad. I wish I knew what happened to the girl I knew. She withdrew from school and kind of disappeared. I can only hope that somewhere she found the help she desperately needed.

 

[mycroft]

Something weird is up. Last night I googled "AB" Olten (using AB's full name). Nothing.

Now, 5 pages worth of stuff comes up, most of it loaded with spamware. I DO NOT recommend clicking on the resulting links.

That happens with every big news story. Pick something that was at the top of the news a couple of days ago, or in a couple of days, and you will get the same thing. Usually it's the fake anti-virus sites.

 

[scout35]

Whether or not the singing was out of tune, it was incredibly sad to listen to. She is only a child. Disturbed, psychotic, etc. , but, still a child. It's sad to think that she had a future, she could've been a productive member of society. IF ONLY she had the help she needed. IF ONLY someone saw that one thing that could've prevented this horrible crime from happening. Unfortunately, there are no crystal balls and it's too late for her and TOO LATE for ELIZABETH. She deserves what punishment is brought down upon her but I still can't help to think how terribly sad it is for her young life. What could've been.

ELIZABETH didn't deserve this. Another life gone that could've brought something wonderful to this world. I stand behind those who say her killer must be brought to justice, they must pay for what they did to her. Her death must not be in vain, this should be a wake up call to everyone. Right now, the world is not a happy place to be. We must be role models to our youth. There is far too much hate and violence that the children of today see as "normal". Whether it is war, hate crimes, racism, discrimination, it is not a good influence on the children! Children are copy cats, they do what they see being done. The "Do as I say, not what I do" attitude is not enough. Things need to change.

I'm not excusing the actions of Elizabeth's killer, not at all. In fact, I honestly don't think that there was much hope for her. She obviously has mental issues. If it wasn't this crime, it probably would've been something else. Was she born that way or was it her environment? I think it was probably 80/20.

I just think that if the world was a little bit of a softer place, then our children (the children of the world) wouldn't be so ready to act out, be so adult, be thinking of things like death, murder. It's easy to say, but not to do, I admit.

Sorry for the rant. I didn't mean for it to be this long. It was a stream of consciousness that needed to get out I guess.

 

[3dogmom]

Eiter LE or attorneys. Hopefully LE. Hate to see anyone remove evidence. Although evidence of what, a moody EMO girl (possible)

Plenty of people have screen shots if LE needs them

 

[3dogmom]

She isn't an only child. She has 3 younger siblings.

Whether or not the singing was out of tune, it was incredibly sad to listen to. She is only a child. Disturbed, psychotic, etc. , but, still a child. It's sad to think that she had a future, she could've been a productive member of society. IF ONLY she had the help she needed. IF ONLY someone saw that one thing that could've prevented this horrible crime from happening. Unfortunately, there are no crystal balls and it's too late for her and TOO LATE for ELIZABETH. She deserves what punishment is brought down upon her but I still can't help to think how terribly sad it is for her young life. What could've been.

ELIZABETH didn't deserve this. Another life gone that could've brought something wonderful to this world. I stand behind those who say her killer must be brought to justice, they must pay for what they did to her. Her death must not be in vain, this should be a wake up call to everyone. Right now, the world is not a happy place to be. We must be role models to our youth. There is far too much hate and violence that the children of today see as "normal". Whether it is war, hate crimes, racism, discrimination, it is not a good influence on the children! Children are copy cats, they do what they see being done. The "Do as I say, not what I do" attitude is not enough. Things need to change.

I'm not excusing the actions of Elizabeth's killer, not at all. In fact, I honestly don't think that there was much hope for her. She obviously has mental issues. If it wasn't this crime, it probably would've been something else. Was she born that way or was it her environment? I think it was probably 80/20.

I just think that if the world was a little bit of a softer place, then our children (the children of the world) wouldn't be so ready to act out, be so adult, be thinking of things like death, murder. It's easy to say, but not to do, I admit.

Sorry for the rant. I didn't mean for it to be this long. It was a stream of consciousness that needed to get out I guess.

 

[tlcya]

carry on the detecting my new friends. I have to go wrangle some arguing kiddos.

 

[akashana]

and i should be cooking dinner . . . should be, that is!

 

[tlcya]

Scout35,

I am on my way off but need you to know I get it, no appologies needed. I have felt the same way and I am sure many of us have. No winners, just a sad sad tale of two little girls whose lives are permantly altered. Death or jail, a life is ended.

 

[*~Aimee~*]

I didn't see the comment or the website so I don't know the answer to this or I wouldn't ask but....could the comment have came from her mom if the person that posted has the same name as her mom? I know I along with my husband call our daughter "sis" she is the only girl with two brothers! I couldn't even tell you a good friends daughters name. I only know the girl by "Sis"!

yea my own kids called each other this.

Oldest daughter was sis
middle daughter was sissy
then young boy

They knew if they said sis or sisy which each meant but only those 3 called each other this. ​

 

[*~Aimee~*]

and i should be cooking dinner . . . should be, that is!

lol We are doing pizza rolls so I don't have to cook tonight (Thank goodness :crazy​

 

[scout35]

She isn't an only child. She has 3 younger siblings.

Oh, I know. I meant she is ONLY a child, not an only child.

 

[*~Aimee~*]

Plenty of people have screen shots if LE needs them

LE can get them Even off myspace. You might delete stuff but myspace keeps a record and LE can get from them. Remember the MO myspace case. They got all they needed from myspace. ​

 

[Kimster]

Hi lishac23!!!

 

[danni]

Soup at my house one sent home from school with fever, the other woke up from his nap with a fever. I don't want to do this again we all just got over the "nasty". exp the baby (five months) I didn't get ANY sleep while he was sick!

 

[Jules71]

I didn't see the comment or the website so I don't know the answer to this or I wouldn't ask but....could the comment have came from her mom if the person that posted has the same name as her mom? I know I along with my husband call our daughter "sis" she is the only girl with two brothers! I couldn't even tell you a good friends daughters name. I only know the girl by "Sis"!

It was actually a comment by a 15 yo girl on a kareoke site who said "great job sis" and I first thought maybe she was her sister, so I started checking that girls first name and AB's last name and found someone - then realized it was AB's bio mom's name. I think the 15 yo girl, just happened to share the same first name and I jumped to conclusions because it said "sis" on there.

I know what you mean about sis too - because my brother and his wife call my niece sis.