MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #5

[crimecurious]

O.K.

Do you know if AB was born in CA?

No I don't. I have not checked on that yet. If I come across it, I'll let you know.

 

[crimecurious]

Well, this one for sure is going to fire up alot of WS membership. Won't be long before this story has its own thread. Are you going to start one Curious?

http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?list=~\news\lists\local&id=369727

I hadn't intended to. I'm new here.

 

[tlcya]

As am. I will check out the TOS to make sure of the rules of posting new threads etc. before I post a new one. I want to make sure I doing it properly. If no else has put it out there within the next day or so maybe I will be brave and give it a shot, lol.

 

[Mom2Yaya]

I'm sorry Money Girl, I can't say.

Do you know because of where you live or did you find it online?

 

[danni]

Kathleen
Posted by Kathleen Lavery, Jefferson City - Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 6:02 p.m.

Yeah, right, watching is an innocent act that should be accessible to all adults. should never fall under freedom of speech and should be outlawed once again.

comment from http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?list=~\news\lists\local&id=369727

Are you kidding me? i mean really, hello PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. This man is TWISTED, SICK and a waste of oxygen.

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

Well that would be a great point for the prosecution, but expert testimony could tear it to shreds. Its very well known that certain injuries or substances can affect a particular part of the brain and you still remain very intelligent - must like cerebral palsy or even ADHD.

But I'm just playing devil's advocate. I want her to be locked away for life.

I have a relative by marriage, who's sister has two children with fetal alcohol syndrome (she cleaned up after having them, <sigh>) and both kids are quite learning disabled. They do not do well socially or educationally. They have both been getting help since birth. The oldest, a girl is 14 now and she had trouble with all facets of learning and has no empathy. The younger child is better socially, but, still has much trouble in school. Neither one will ever be winning any awards, and, it is a shame, both are adorable in appearance and I especially worry about the girl.

 

[Mels3kidz]

What has had me puzzled is this. She was pretty darn close to home and supposedly at someone's house that the parents trusted. The call was made for her to come home at 6:15. The cops were called at 7:00. Now I am an overprotective mom, but that seems like an incredibly quick call. Let's assume 15 minutes to get herself going and make the walk. That would be a 6:30 arrival time. Did Elizabeth's mom have reason to suspect something was up that would precipitate a call to the cops that quickly? Did they spend any time looking for her first?

Unless Elizabeth was a very prompt child and always came home within minutes of being called. Its only a couple of houses away. A 5 minute walk or less.

Melissa

 

[tgrlaw]

Well, this one for sure is going to fire up alot of WS membership. Won't be long before this story has its own thread. Are you going to start one Curious?

http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?list=~\news\lists\local&id=369727

FWIW... Miller County, MO should/could be a thread unto itself. Disturbing things frequently happen there. Unfortunately, there is not too much mystery to what happened, so not much sleuthing is needed.

New here, been following the EO story since she was reported missing.

 

[crimecurious]

Any one have a middle name for AB?

It's D.

 

[crimecurious]

FWIW... Miller County, MO should/could be a thread unto itself. Disturbing things frequently happen there. Unfortunately, there is not too much mystery to what happened, so not much sleuthing is needed.

New here, been following the EO story since she was reported missing.

Very strange stuff goes on there. Miller county is plagued by Meth. There have been several (as in 4-5) child abuse and murder cases recently. I think all by parents.

 

[Raebie]

Someone logged int AB's myspace account again this afternoon. Wonder if LE is keeping tabs on something?

 

[crimecurious]

Someone logged int AB's myspace account again this afternoon. Wonder if LE is keeping tabs on something?

I've been away from myspace for a long time. Can you see who's viewed your profile on there?

 

[lajr56]

OK, just jumping here. Regarding AB's many online accounts. I may sound like a hardliner here. I realize that the GP's took their grandkids in. But if you are going to take that kind of responsibility, you need to be ALL in.

Monitor your kids online activity. Why were these youtube accounts not monitored? I am not specifically talking about the videos themselves. I am talking about the status that AB has. "I like killing people"?

I sneak behind my kid on line ALL THE TIME. I will not apologize. Be smarter than them. If you are going to give them this kind of technology, you better learn how to use it yourself. Parental Controls? Yep, got them set.

 

[crimecurious]

About AB not having the money for an lawyer... The GPs are loaded. But they may refused to pay for one also. I think they are probably paying Kurt Valentine, he does pretty big cases. BTW, I saw him representing someone in court yesterday. He's good in a bad kinda way...

 

[Raebie]

I've been away from myspace for a long time. Can you see who's viewed your profile on there?

Probably, but I don't see why they'd care.

 

[crimecurious]

Probably, but I don't see why they'd care.

Looking for people who might know something? I dunno.

 

[Raebie]

More than likely. Most of her friend's pages are private. Logging into her account would be the only way to view them.

 

[tgrlaw]

On 10/26/09 I breifly discussed the events of this case with my neighbor who is a MO State Trooper involved in the search for Elizabeth. I told him that I was not ready to hear any details at that time, mainly because of my being unerved by the situation, given that I have a 9 y.o. daughter with brown hair, and because within two houses on either side of mine on both sides of my street there are 17 children under the age of 13. Our neighborhood is about 2.5 miles from where this took place. I am getting closer to being able to have that conversation.

Two things he did tell me were that Elizabeth was well concealed, in that he said he probably walked past the location a couple of times himself, (he is over 6 ft, and the brush was over his head) and that there was sufficient evidence to warrant the 1st degree charge, including a diary.

For JC, this situation is the proverbial 800 pound gorilla in the room. Very quiet, i.e. too quiet. Personally, I have doubts the local press/media or legal system can handle this. The dearth of information from both is understandable, but as time passes toward Nov. 18th, how they deal with the pressure from the public will be telling.

 

[*~Aimee~*]

Any one have a middle name for AB?

I think it is in her twitter page? The user name I think is her first and middle with no space?? I could be wrong not sure. :waitasec:​

 

[*~Aimee~*]

I've been away from myspace for a long time. Can you see who's viewed your profile on there?

I don't think so. Wish I could just to be nosey and see who viewed mine LOL I know it tracks # of times viewed but not who views.:waitasec:​