MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #6

[PeriodicalCuriosity]

Sorry, but I am skeptical about this latest bit of information. I would not think that Law Enforcement would take what was written in a 15 year old's diary as hard enough evidence to call off a search and wait until the next day to wrap things up. My hinky meter is going off with this one.

I thought that ILC said the diary was confiscated.

 

[Jules71]

I thought that ILC said the diary was confiscated.

Yes, ILC said LE took it Thurs night.

 

[PeriodicalCuriosity]

Yes, ILC said LE took it Thurs night.

That makes me think that no one in ABs house GAVE any written evidence or diary to LE. LE found it??

 

[mistivon]

I would imagine they were interested in her simply because she was the last child/teen known to be playing with E....the 6 year old would have said Elizabeth and AB were playing in the woods and sent me home, or something similar. Given her probably easily accessible background...plus whatever "talk" floats around the community, I would imagine gravitated them towards her, imo.
I could definitely see them search her room taking her diary. Just a freak thing that she would be cocky/stupid enough to write what she had done.
Still don't understand that delay tho....even if they read that E was dead, there's always the chance that AB hadn't finished the job, or that an animal/the elements would destroy evidence around her body.
I'm thinking they didn't get around to the diary until Friday.
sigh.

 

[Padua]

That makes me think that no one in ABs house GAVE any written evidence or diary to LE. LE found it??

ILC said they found it but didn't read it. Which leads me to believe someone else knew the content of that diary. Probably a snoopy brother that knew where she hid it and read it occasionally. 15 year old girls do not leave a diary laying around.

 

[Ilovecookies]

LE searched her house (namely her room extensively). And arrangements before the search had already been made for AB to be questioned the next morning (fri).

 

[Elley Mae]

As far as we know E went to her friends home right after school to around 4, then it is said that she either got called at 6:15 or was sent home at 6:15. that is the part that would clear up the issue of time. I wonder were she was that evening, that the GP's didn't notice anything was up with her.

 

[PeriodicalCuriosity]

I would imagine they were interested in her simply because she was the last child/teen known to be playing with E....the 6 year old would have said Elizabeth and AB were playing in the woods and sent me home, or something similar. Given her probably easily accessible background...plus whatever "talk" floats around the community, I would imagine gravitated them towards her, imo.
I could definitely see them search her room taking her diary. Just a freak thing that she would be cocky/stupid enough to write what she had done.
Still don't understand that delay tho....even if they read that E was dead, there's always the chance that AB hadn't finished the job, or that an animal/the elements would destroy evidence around her body.
I'm thinking they didn't get around to the diary until Friday.
sigh.

If the gps didn't want the 6 yr old in the woods, she may not have told. Plus the initial report was that E was walking home. They were searching on Wednesday--yet no Amber Alert....Hmmm...this is a very curious case. Also, in ILCs opinion the gps may have not known that E was over at their house. Did E always have the cell phone? Did she get off the bus and AB was there to meet her? Did E go home after school?

 

[Jules71]

Hard to guess her frame of mind. She commits this crime on Wed evening - then goes home and writes down what she did in her diary, goes to sleep, and then skips school thurs. We are fortunate she didn't do many more terrible things that day - feeling like she might have nothing to lose.

 

[Padua]

Was she acting how she normally does on a day to day basis on Thursday and Friday?

 

[PeriodicalCuriosity]

As far as we know E went to her friends home right after school to around 4, then it is said that she either got called at 6:15 or was sent home at 6:15. that is the part that would clear up the issue of time. I wonder were she was that evening, that the GP's didn't notice anything was up with her.

Do we know the exact time of death?

 

[sdw]

"LE wanted to talk to AB on thursday, but she couldn't be found, and a school counselor found her outside the school with her bf. Thats when LE suspected something. Then that night the grandparents allowed them in to search and the LE took AB's diary and before they read it they asked to speak with her at 10 on friday morning."

Thinking out loud... Why did LE want to talk to her? Did LE have a tip/note. Did LE go to the school to talk to her Thursday? Did the school call the GPs to say she was not in school Thursday? Did the school counselor call the LE or the GPs after he/she found AB? Did GPs go to the school to get her after she was found? Did the GPs call LE to say they had her? Was the fact she was found on school property and LE was looking for her, the reason the school made that statment about it not happening on school property? Did she tell the BF what she did? Did he ask her why she was not in school and did he ask her was she involved? Was AB home when LE searched the house? Did she know that LE had the diary? Why didn't she take off? So what made LE go to the house/school to talk with her Thursday. Why didn't they read the diary right away? Or maybe they did read it which is why they took it? Why wouldn't they take her that night. Something is off...

 

[Jules71]

If the gps didn't want the 6 yr old in the woods, she may not have told. Plus the initial report was that E was walking home. They were searching on Wednesday--yet no Amber Alert....Hmmm...this is a very curious case. Also, in ILCs opinion the gps may have not known that E was over at their house. Did E always have the cell phone? Did she get off the bus and AB was there to meet her? Did E go home after school?

I thought I read that E had her moms phone.

 

[Elley Mae]

Do we know the exact time of death?

Not that I am aware of, but I thought that LE had said at one time that she was dead when they arrived at 7. Maybe that came from the diary entry.

 

[PeriodicalCuriosity]

LE searched her house (namely her room extensively). And arrangements before the search had already been made for AB to be questioned the next morning (fri).

It seems like they knew the whole time or were on to her pretty quick.

 

[tehcloser]

Could one of the people living at the house be her bf? Stranger things have happened...

 

[PeriodicalCuriosity]

I thought I read that E had her moms phone.

Yeah, I remember reading that too...so she would have her moms phone all day? That doesn't make sense. It seems like she would have to go home and then her mom gave E the phone before she went out to play. That's weird.

 

[mistivon]

Why was there no urgency between this intense search, and then the questioning? That's what I don't get. I'm just thinking if they were that gung-ho on her from right off, then why not question her right then at the station? That's not illegal, esp if one of the grandparents was present.
Why the delay in finding E?

 

[Jules71]

Someone in the home must have found her diary on Thurs and called LE.

 

[Jules71]

Yeah, I remember reading that too...so she would have her moms phone all day? That doesn't make sense. It seems like she would have to go home and then her mom gave E the phone before she went out to play. That's weird.

I would think she went home after getting off the bus, then got her moms phone, then went to play.