MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #8

[impianoteach]

Really, all I can say is that the RP involved in AB life could not possibly have been a good influence. There are some real anger issues there!

 

[impianoteach]

ya'll wouldn't be lion to me would ya?

 

[Tricia]

The charge for RP was when he was still in high school, unlawful use of drug paraphernalia in Oct '05. Guilty plea. He did community service 20 hours + 2 yrs unsupervised probation ending 12/13/07.

The other charge is for a traffic ticket from an at-fault accident.

I don't think this has anything to do with EO or AB and I don't think ILC is RP.

Very good sleuthing.

 

[SereneOne]

Really, all I can say is that the RP involved in AB life could not possibly have been a good influence. There are some real anger issues there!

Having now found ILC's Myspace page, I'm amazed. I didn't know such immature people actually got married.

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

And thanks to all of you for sharin!

I second that.


and sharin'
make the rough times berrin.

Okay, I am not a poet, LOL - But know I do thank you all!

 

[Tricia]

Wow... I just caught up with all the posts today and with reading RP's myspace blogs. (He mentions KN-P by name in his dream blog.)

At first I thought he was legit - two red flags for me: 1. Deletion of his posts. Why? I thought I was going crazy the first couple of days! 2. When Tricia announced her info regarding the TWO graves.

Now I'm torn. I think he is close to the family and I *want* to think that he is RP BUT I really believe he would have disclosed the information on the graves if he knew it. With that said, the personality he portrays on his MS site completely looks like someone who would come here and do this - IMO, of course.

Just to clear up any confusion. I Love Cookies was not my source on the diary entry, the two graves, or the scarf. That info came from someone I know and that person got the info from someone they know so take it how you want.

 

[MoEquineFan]

Having now found ILC's Myspace page, I'm amazed. I didn't know such immature people actually got married.

Agreed - if you read hers too I think you'll agree that is has to be one messed up situation! Drama central!!

 

[MoEquineFan]

Just to clear up any confusion. I Love Cookies was not my source on the diary entry, the two graves, or the scarf. That info came from someone I know and that person got the info from someone they know so take it how you want.

I think most of us understood it as that... I was just trying to say that I didn't think ILC knew that information or he would have shared it, that's all.

That's the point where I started doubting his intentions.

 

[human]

Having now found ILC's Myspace page, I'm amazed. I didn't know such immature people actually got married.

I didn't want to comment on that as I thought maybe I was just too old and out of it. But I also was totally impressed at how immature both of them are. I think the girl is far more immature, though.

Considering that RP has had a religious conversion, I am unsure of what to think of all of his language and thoughts.

 

[hoppyfrog]

Methinks there are too many "hints" here about names, so I deleted some of the more pointed ones.

Be careful.

Initials are ok.

Thanks,

Hoppy
mini-mod

 

[Tricia]

Well what a day huh?

ILC did contact me. ILC apologized profusely. ILC has learned a very valuable lesson. I forgive IIC completely.

You all are going to hate me but that is all I can tell you. I can't confirm or deny anything. I can't tell you what is true and what is false. When this case is over perhaps I can then. I am not trying to be a jerk. I'm too tired to be in a jerk mode LOL

I am going to say a prayer for ILC tonight as I will for all I have come in contact with today.

Please understand we do try to make sure everyone is on the up and up. We make mistakes. Especially me.

So, your tymin to do some rhymin is running out. Tomorrow we get back, pick up the slack, and continue the talk Jack.

I guess my days of rapping are over.

Love,
Tricia
PS. I gave everyone today only to discuss ILC within TOS of course. Tomorrow it is back to the facts of the case.

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

Wow... I just caught up with all the posts today and with reading RP's myspace blogs. (He mentions KN-P by name in his dream blog.)

At first I thought he was legit - two red flags for me: 1. Deletion of his posts. Why? I thought I was going crazy the first couple of days! 2. When Tricia announced her info regarding the TWO graves.

Now I'm torn. I think he is close to the family and I *want* to think that he is RP BUT I really believe he would have disclosed the information on the graves if he knew it. With that said, the personality he portrays on his MS site completely looks like someone who would come here and do this - IMO, of course.

I agree for the most part. The whole bit about LE not letting his friend leave just seemed like total carp.

The whole deleting posts made him seem like a troll. I didn't want to say anything, but, that is what I thought. Someone here for whatever reason to play games.

One idea, I wonder if it can be set to not allow newbies to delete or even edit posts until so many posts, kind of like PMing. If for some reason they needed to edit, they could go through a Mod. I know, the Mods have enough to do, but, I am not sure how often this would come up. Someone joining a site and then deleting is kind of weird.

 

[Kimster]

Thank you Tricia! I am glad ILC was sorry and you forgave him!!! Hopefully it will be the last time he makes such a mistake. I forgive you too, ILC! Please don't do it to anyone else again!

 

[impianoteach]

I agree for the most part. The whole bit about LE not letting his friend leave just seemed like total carp.

The whole deleting posts made him seem like a troll. I didn't want to say anything, but, that is what I thought. Someone here for whatever reason to play games.

One idea, I wonder if it can be set to not allow newbies to delete or even edit posts until so many posts, kind of like PMing. If for some reason they needed to edit, they could go through a Mod. I know, the Mods have enough to do, but, I am not sure how often this would come up. Someone joining a site and then deleting is kind of weird.

I bolded the above comment

I know this would be a lot of work for Ms Frog but that was so confusing for me. I am sure I am not the only newb that was left cross eyed, slack jawed and drooling trying to figure out why I couldn't see those posts. I did finally figure out they were going somewhere and want to thank all of you that grabbed his posts and quoted.

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

I just feel so bad. Screw RP RN KNP KB GB and the cast of emo teen friends. Screw all of them... what difference does it all make?
None.
Fact remains-- we have a 15 year old GIRL capable of thrill killing a 9 year old little girl.
One beautiful life gone.
Many ruined.

For what? FFS, nothing.

 

[MoEquineFan]

I agree for the most part. The whole bit about LE not letting his friend leave just seemed like total carp.

The whole deleting posts made him seem like a troll. I didn't want to say anything, but, that is what I thought. Someone here for whatever reason to play games.

One idea, I wonder if it can be set to not allow newbies to delete or even edit posts until so many posts, kind of like PMing. If for some reason they needed to edit, they could go through a Mod. I know, the Mods have enough to do, but, I am not sure how often this would come up. Someone joining a site and then deleting is kind of weird.

Honestly I think people with bad intentions will find a way to get around anything put in place to stop them.

It is my guess that most "newbies" on this site are like myself - we've been around for a long time reading every post and learning how to sleuth the info you pros are finding (my lack of sleep shows this!) and a case finally comes around that pulls us out of lurk mode... I would hope those like ILC are few and far between!

 

[Kimster]

I agree for the most part. The whole bit about LE not letting his friend leave just seemed like total carp.

The whole deleting posts made him seem like a troll. I didn't want to say anything, but, that is what I thought. Someone here for whatever reason to play games.

One idea, I wonder if it can be set to not allow newbies to delete or even edit posts until so many posts, kind of like PMing. If for some reason they needed to edit, they could go through a Mod. I know, the Mods have enough to do, but, I am not sure how often this would come up. Someone joining a site and then deleting is kind of weird.

One time a mod...I think it was JBean....explained why deleting is not a good idea and this rang very true with this thread. It is hard to understand the following posts when there's been a deletion. I did it myself a few minutes ago in Shannon's thread...while I was deleting, Hoppyfrog was quoting me! Thankfully, it was a bit of chit chat so it didn't ruin the thread.

I don't agree with not allowing newbies to delete, though. Perhaps the mods can give them the same chat that JBean had with us that one time. It really helped me understand the importance and responsibility of deleting.

ETA: I mean if another newbie starts deleting like crazy, a mod can privately explain the problem to them.

 

[Tricia]

I agree for the most part. The whole bit about LE not letting his friend leave just seemed like total carp.

The whole deleting posts made him seem like a troll. I didn't want to say anything, but, that is what I thought. Someone here for whatever reason to play games.

One idea, I wonder if it can be set to not allow newbies to delete or even edit posts until so many posts, kind of like PMing. If for some reason they needed to edit, they could go through a Mod. I know, the Mods have enough to do, but, I am not sure how often this would come up. Someone joining a site and then deleting is kind of weird.

The posts are never deleted. The admins and myself can still see them. They are a part of the permanent record on Websleuths.

Wholelottarosie this next part is not directed at you but is for everyone to remember.

If we have someone on Websleuths who claims to be an insider and I have checked them out, you can question them. It's when you get accusatory and snide that the problems come in.

Don't be afraid to politely point out inconsistencies and such but don't be even the slightest bit snarky about it.

Very simple. Attack the post, not the poster.

 

[impianoteach]

Amanda, you are so right. I do know that this is our attempt to create order from chaos, find meaning where there is none.

I must admit, I did feel a little guilty when ILC called us gossips but upon reflection, realize that is not what is going on here at all. I joined this group because I am local to the case, I did show up to help search for Elizabeth and when the awful outcome was revealed, I needed to know WHY.

I do realize that we may never know the real why but you have helped relieve some of my soul sickness by providing some insight. I fear that had I not found this forum, I would have exploded by now.

Thank you all!

 

[Jules71]

Well that was fun... I'm going to bed! G'Night all my WS-buddies! Thanks for everything Tricia!

:bedtime: