MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #10

[popsicle]

Attention Linda

David Carson ‏@PDPJ 2m
#Ferguson protesters continue march, I did not see this group of people out here earlier, some if these protesters mad about Chicago events

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[ATasteOfHoney]

Ahh, it all makes sense now. You know, when that autopsy report came out, I kept wondering why that hand wound looked so odd- that was a really long wound for the hand, but you know, bullets can do weird things and all so I dismissed it.

Do y'all notice how they kept our attention away from the hand, continually? They kept speaking of the arm ONLY. They started a debate about the "possibility" of the "first shot" in the arm being from behind. They knew it wasn't from behind- they wanted to detract from speaking about the hand. Furthermore, wouldn't the FIRST SHOT have been the hand (discounting that it probably happened in the struggle at the car). They are claiming the first shot was in the forearm, which made MB jump and turn around. So, in order for that to have been the case OW would have had to shoot him from behind with the first shot being in the forearm, MB would have turned around and with his arm is on the OPPOSITE side of where it was previously. OW would have then gone back down the body shot MB's HAND and then magically came back up and shot straight up in a line on MB's body? DID NOT HAPPEN.

They threw us off from what really happened. They told us the first shot was the forearm. That was true in the context of the series of shots after the struggle at the car. T BUT, the first true shot happened at close range, inside the car, when MB was fighting for OW's gun.

They didn't speak of the hand wound because they knew it wasn't consistent with any of the other wounds and they couldn't explain why it was at such close range when all of the others weren't, including the ones to the head.

WTG. Bravo. Well done. I mean it. Fantastic job at throwing us off and stopping us from asking the questions we really should have been asking. :clap:

Personally, I feel there's been quite a bit of spin being dished out from that side.
And a lot of hate & anger.

 

[Foxfire]

Found it!!
Big CONCERNING GASH on Browns hand

"D. PARKS: Let me explain to you a few things. Number one, you`re going to notice that there`s an injury to his hand. That particular injury

probably came at a close range, you`re going to find out later. Second, when we talk about front to back -- front to back mainly...

GRACE: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait! Let me...

D. PARKS: ... applies to two things...

GRACE: ... let me hear what you`re saying. You`re saying that the gunshot wound to his right hand is at close range, although the autopsy is

saying no shots at close range.


D. PARKS: Well, let me explain it like this. It`s a big gash.

GRACE: What?

D. PARKS: It`s a big gash, so as you hear more about it, it`s a big gash on his hand.

GRACE: So it`s not -- are you telling me it`s not a gunshot?

D. PARKS: Now, how that`s -- no, it is a gunshot wound caused by the gun, but a bullet, but it`s a rather large gash in his hand.

GRACE: Well, why do you say it`s at close range?

D. PARKS: Secondly -- well, it`s pretty big and it`s pretty open.

GRACE: That doesn`t mean close range.

D. PARKS: Now, how and when it happened, I`ll leave that to the experts.

GRACE: OK, well, that doesn`t...

D. PARKS: Well, it could -- you`re right, but...

GRACE: ... necessarily mean close range."

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1408/18/ng.01.html

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<BBM for Focus>

The likely explanation for the big gash on MB's hand will likely be provided by forensics; prints, blood, skin/dna, etc...
Imo, and according to some witness accounts during the initial altercation, MB fought over officer Wilson's firearm and it discharged inside the police cruiser, it likely injured MB's hand when the slide then moved forward feeding the next cartridge from the magazine into the chamber.. jmo

http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/infantry/pistol/M9.html
The M9 is carried by crew-served weapon crewmen and by others who have a personal defense requirement, such as law enforcement personnel and aviators.

The 9mm pistol has a short recoil system utilizing a falling locking block.

Upon firing, the pressure developed by the combustion gases recoils the slide-barrel assembly. After a short run, the locking block will stop the rearward movement of the barrel and release the slide which will continue its rearward movement. The slide will then extract and eject the fired cartridge case, the hammer and compress the recoil spring. The slide then moves forward feeding the next cartridge from the magazine into the chamber. The slide moving forward is how the big gash to DM's hand occurred, imo..

 

[katydid23]

Not seeing any talk about Michael Brown on Judge Jeanine. 20 minutes in already---did they pull it?

 

[Linda7NJ]

Not seeing any talk about Michael Brown on Judge Jeanine. 20 minutes in already---did they pull it?

Scratching my head...


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[Linda7NJ]

<BBM for Focus>

The likely explanation for the big gash on MB's hand will likely be provided by forensics; prints, blood, skin/dna, etc...
Imo, and according to some witness accounts during the initial altercation, MB fought over officer Wilson's firearm and it discharged inside the police cruiser, it likely injured MB's hand when the slide then moved forward feeding the next cartridge from the magazine into the chamber.. jmo

http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/infantry/pistol/M9.html
The M9 is carried by crew-served weapon crewmen and by others who have a personal defense requirement, such as law enforcement personnel and aviators.

The 9mm pistol has a short recoil system utilizing a falling locking block.

Upon firing, the pressure developed by the combustion gases recoils the slide-barrel assembly. After a short run, the locking block will stop the rearward movement of the barrel and release the slide which will continue its rearward movement. The slide will then extract and eject the fired cartridge case, the hammer and compress the recoil spring. The slide then moves forward feeding the next cartridge from the magazine into the chamber.

Parks seems to think it was due to a bullet...shrug...IMO


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[Linda7NJ]

Not seeing any talk about Michael Brown on Judge Jeanine. 20 minutes in already---did they pull it?

Now I'm super mad I missed it the first time!!!!


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[popsicle]

Wouldn't we have seen evidence markers on the road from blood drops if he was shot in his hand in the car.... or no?

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I found this article when looking for information about frangible and hollow point bullets. I feel it can help in understanding police use of hollow point bullets. And why multiple shots are often fired.

Conclusion
And, oh, by the way, they also don’t “drive a full-grown man back five or six feet.” Simple physics tell us that a body in motion will tend to stay in motion. A suspect who is charging at an officer with a deadly weapon (like a knife) in their hand will probably continue to move forward even if they’re struck with one, two or more hollow-point bullets. That’s why officers are trained to shoot until the threat ceases.

http://www.lawofficer.com/article/tactics-and-weapons/short-history-hollow-points

 

[Linda7NJ]

Attention Linda

David Carson &#8207;@PDPJ 2m
#Ferguson protesters continue march, I did not see this group of people out here earlier, some if these protesters mad about Chicago events

live feed
http://www.ustream.tv/z?utm_campaig...&utm_medium=social&utm_content=20140821192647

Gasp!!!!
Are you watching this???


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[formerjerseygirl]

next up on judge j

 

[Foxfire]

Now I'm super mad I missed it the first time!!!!


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'Live on the scene in Ferguson, Missouri'.. "Next"

 

[popsicle]

Are they fighting?

 

[SnoopyDawgDawg]

http://www.ustream.tv/z?utm_campaig...&utm_medium=social&utm_content=20140821192647

What was that woman screaming about? I couldn't understand a bit of it. Anyone?

 

[SStarr33]

Is it the same one?
I'm 15 minutes in...


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Linda, it's freaking me out that you keep watching Fox :scared:

 

[Apollo]

Now I'm super mad I missed it the first time!!!!


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She just said they're going live to Ferguson after the break---so maybe it's coming up. I missed it first time around too.

 

[bettybaby00]

Now I'm super mad I missed it the first time!!!!


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[liloleme]

<BBM for Focus>

The likely explanation for the big gash on MB's hand will likely be provided by forensics; prints, blood, skin/dna, etc...
Imo, and according to some witness accounts during the initial altercation, MB fought over officer Wilson's firearm and it discharged inside the police cruiser, it likely injured MB's hand when the slide then moved forward feeding the next cartridge from the magazine into the chamber.. jmo

http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/infantry/pistol/M9.html
The M9 is carried by crew-served weapon crewmen and by others who have a personal defense requirement, such as law enforcement personnel and aviators.

The 9mm pistol has a short recoil system utilizing a falling locking block.

Upon firing, the pressure developed by the combustion gases recoils the slide-barrel assembly. After a short run, the locking block will stop the rearward movement of the barrel and release the slide which will continue its rearward movement. The slide will then extract and eject the fired cartridge case, the hammer and compress the recoil spring. The slide then moves forward feeding the next cartridge from the magazine into the chamber.

Maybe so. That would make more sense than it being a gunshot wound. Because, if that was a gunshot wound at that close of a range, he probably would have lost his thumb.

I've caught my thumb on the backward motion of the advance of the slide and it hurt so bad! It bled like a stuck pig. The gash of catching your hand on the top part as the slide advanced - that's very consistent with the look of that gash in the autopsy photo (oblong and gaping).

So, I recant- I bet he wasn't shot in the hand at close range. I'm certain the gun did go off in the car, but I bet your right- I bet that's the forward advance of the slide on the top of that Glock.

QUESTION: Wasn't there some report somewhere saying that there was a struggle between the two of them and the gun was pointed at OW's hip and he managed to get it turned away from his hip and then it discharged? That would certainly be consistent with a wound like that.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Linda, it's freaking me out that you keep watching Fox :scared:

It's freaking me out too!!!!

I am thoroughly confused as to how, why, and what the heck happened to the original airing of Judge Jeanine .....

Oh wait...now they're talking about it....let's see...

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[Linda7NJ]

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Whew!!!!! Thank you!


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