MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #11

[jjenny]

Tamerlan Tsarnaev was actually run over by his brother as that brother was fleeing.

 

[aa9511]

Yeah 10, but his lawyer said she was sure she heard 11, so IDK.

I have no idea, but there is pause b/w 1 and then the second set 12345. Then I think I heard a very slight pause between the 1 and the 234 of the second set.

Just thinking, that wouldn't the shell casings portray a clear picture of where MB was in relation to DW when the shots were being fired? IDK. Like if 1 was in the car, wouldn't shell casing be in the car? And then if the 12345 were when OW first got out of the car, wouldn't shell casings be right there next to the car? Or if 12345 is also in car, then all the first 6 shell casings in the car or right around the car, right around the floor under the window or something? Then if he walked forward after the 3 second pause, and then more shell casings there?

IDK, it's hard to visualize all the different possible scenarios.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Oh....watching his mom ....heartbreaking. On CNN

I have so much respect for Trayvons Martin's mom


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[sorrell skye]

FERGUSON, Mo. — It was 1 a.m. and Michael Brown Jr. called his father, his voice trembling. He had seen something overpowering. In the thick gray clouds that lingered from a passing storm this past June, he made out an angel. And he saw Satan chasing the angel and the angel running into the face of God. Mr. Brown was a prankster, so his father and stepmother chuckled at first.

“No, no, Dad! No!” the elder Mr. Brown remembered his son protesting. “I’m serious.”

And the black teenager from this suburb of St. Louis, who had just graduated from high school, sent his father and stepmother a picture of the sky from his cellphone. “Now I believe,” he told them.=======================================================

I don't know about anyone else, but sounds to me like he was trippin or rollin...just saying.....

BBM

I've experienced several powerfully spiritual events during the course of my lifetime - most of them when I was immersed in the natural environment.

There have been times (when I was much younger and less wiser) when I recounted my experiences to others and was met with disbelief at the least, and with scorn & ridicule at the worst. It taught me to exercise caution regarding who was worthy of trust. As I've grown older and have chosen my friends and confidants more carefully, I've been met with much more supportive responses regarding my sacred experiences.

If MB had a spiritually profound experience, why should anyone discount it? Why should anyone try to make it less than it was to him?

When Nature reveals Herself to someone, when Spirit speaks to someone, it is a sacred moment that should not be denigrated by anyone.

Regardless of the truth of the circumstances regarding the shooting that ended Michael Brown's life - I'm glad for him that he experienced a moment of Union with the Divine while he walked upon this Earth.

 

[reedus23]

Also, his lies are forcing the cop to be looking at a murder case. So because he does not want to admit to everything, he is proudly, loudly, accusing the cop of murder. And he KNOWS that MB was the one who blindsided the cop. He knows it. But he is going on al these news shows with his attorney telling a made up fairytale version of the story. n

Sorry, not going to give him a pass for that.

Where did I miss that at? When did DJ say he knows that MB blindsided the cop? Or is that just the position you're advancing?

 

[aa9511]

Anyway, it is looking like this audio tape will be valuable after all.

 

[reedus23]

Anyway, it is looking like this audio tape will be valuable after all.

Assuming it's accurate, yes. One way or the other, yes.

 

[TheDuchess]

I am really having trouble understanding how MB is considered a crime victim in the classic sense. Based on official information released by St Louis County Police, prior to being shot, MB assaulted OW and attempted to grab his gun. These are felonies. He also violently robbed a store - another felony.

If we are to believe these official accounts by St Louis County Police - MB was a fleeing felon when he was shot and killed by OW. Every day felons are killed trying to flee arrest and yet we don't consider them victims. Tamerlan Tsarnaev, one of the Boston bombers, was killed fleeing police and no one would ever consider him a victim (granted his crimes were far worse than strong-arm robbery or assaulting an officer). Of course MB was a victim of his own decisions and actions but I don't see him as a crime victim.

Quite frankly, I had a difficult time originally finding this thread because it is under "Crimes in the News." I disagree with this concept that MB is in any way a victim. When there is an incident between police and civilian, I believe the starting point is always to start on the side of LE.

 

[Phoebeb]

I don't think the first shot we hear is at the car, do you? I don't think there's enough time after that first pause to run around the car to pursue MB with the rest of the shots. imo.
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So 10?

Do you think the first 1 is the one at the car?

 

[CHERIE.T]

idk, I counted 10 shots...wish i had better speakers

 

[katydid23]

Where did I miss that at? When did DJ say he knows that MB blindsided the cop? Or is that just the position you're advancing?

Well, he knows the truth of what happened. And what he told us, is not the truth. So I am assuming he saw MB when he shoved the officer back into the car and began punching him. Unless he ran away and his already.

 

[KEVINinTO]

Tamerlan Tsarnaev was actually run over by his brother as that brother was fleeing.

Yes he was run over by his brother AFTER being shot multiple times by police.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzhokhar_and_Tamerlan_Tsarnaev#Death

 

[Phoebeb]

I wonder if there's a way to listen to it slowed down? (I mean for us, not FBI, I'm sure they can)

idk, I counted 10 shots...wish i had better speakers

 

[jjenny]

Yes he was run over by his brother AFTER being shot multiple times by police.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzhokhar_and_Tamerlan_Tsarnaev#Death

But he was trying to blow up the police, so it's understandable they shot at him. And Wikipedia is not considered a credible link.

 

[KEVINinTO]

I don't think the first shot we hear is at the car, do you? I don't think there's enough time after that first pause to run around the car to pursue MB with the rest of the shots. imo.
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I don't think so either. I don't believe that this recording picks up the first shot. According to police statements one shot was fired inside the vehicle. All subsequent shots were fired outside of the vehicle. If you listen to the audio there is a split second between the first and second shots. There is no way the officer could jump out of the SUV in this short split second interval. Physically impossible.

 

[KEVINinTO]

But he was trying to blow up the police, so it's understandable they shot at him. And Wikipedia is not considered a credible link.

And according to official police statements MB inflicted facial injuries to OW as he tried to grab OW's firearm (presumably to shoot OW?) so it is understandable that OW shot at MB.

 

[Muffet]

I've been out and just heard the tape... Does anyone else hear what could have been a shot just before the guy says "you are pretty" (lol poor guy)

I keep replaying and hear something there.. Like a knocking sound.

 

[sorrell skye]

I'm not sure what happened in this case. As far as I know, MB charged officer Wilson after he had assaulted him in the police vehicle. That would make this a justifiable police shooting to me.

If MB didn't assault officer Wilson at any time and was merely walking back after fleeing the scene, then I would have some doubts about this being a justifiable police shooting.

I need more evidence before I'm certain about this case. At the same time, I haven't seen clear evidence that says Wilson acted inappropriately. The eyewitness statements are not consistent or believable to me. JMO.

This is where I'm at, as well.

I'm leaning toward justifiable shooting, but still have questions that I hope will be answered with solid evidence.

I agree that some of the witness statements that we've heard thus far are inconsistent or unbelievable.

ETA: If MB truly surrendered and DW was aware that he was surrendering, then I want to know.

 

[Muffet]

I'm still a bit off kilter, so forgive me if I'm missing the obvious, (and nobody get mad at me, please! :scared: ), but the only thing that I found interesting is the lack of voices. (except for the happy chatter dude )

I would think that the shots could have drowned them out, but I'm not hearing anything during the momentary pause.

 

[jjenny]

I'm still a bit off kilter, so forgive me if I'm missing the obvious, (and nobody get mad at me, please! :scared: ), but the only thing that I found interesting is the lack of voices. (except for the happy chatter dude )

I would think that the shots could have drowned them out, but I'm not hearing anything during the momentary pause.

Lack of other voices or noises makes me question whether this is even authentic. Chatting dude doesn't even flinch after presumably hearing multiple gunshots. His voice doesn't change, he doesn't acknowledge them in any way. That makes this one bizarre tape, IMO.